Following Flint Tragedy, Republican Congress Votes to Block Clean Water Bill. Sendator Cruz blocks bill to help Flint, MI

  • metta

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    Jan 15, 2016 8:57 PM GMT
    Following Flint Tragedy, Republican Congress Votes to Block Clean Water Bill

    "the “Waters of the United States rule” has been voted against by Montana’s delegates, which will block the Environmental Protection Agency’s clean water rule.

    The GOP-dominated U.S. Congress passed this bill, which will stop the EPA from caring for many of the waterways in the US, including the lead-polluted supply from the Flint River.

    Corporate lobbyists spent millions encouraging Republicans to block clean water legislation despite the ongoing Flint water crisis. The bill has seen enthusiastic support from corporate interests. The US Chamber of Commerce, Dairy Farmers of America, chemical companies, utility companies, energy companies, mining companies, and logging companies are among over 230 organizations that listed the bill on lobbying disclosures since it was proposed in March 2014.

    At first glance, the vote was unrelated to the Flint water emergency. If Obama does not veto this bill as he is expected to, it will allow more mismanagement of Flint’s already tainted water supply. Residents of the city will have life-long damages from lead poisoning, others are facing an already deadly Legionnaires’ outbreak, and many more were forced to buy expensive bottled water and filtration systems for years before the Governor Rick Snyder declared a State of Emergency and allowed people to begin providing aid."


    http://usuncut.com/class-war/republicans-block-clean-water-legislation-following-flint-tragedy/
  • metta

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    Jan 16, 2016 6:20 PM GMT
    The People of Flint Want You to See These Photos of the Water They Were Told Was Safe to Drink


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    http://usuncut.com/class-war/residents-of-flint-want-you-to-see-these-images-of-the-water-they-were-told-was-safe-to-drink/
  • metta

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    Jan 17, 2016 5:27 AM GMT
    Cher Donated 180,000 Bottles Of Water To Flint, Michigan. Because She’s Cher, Bitch!


    http://www.newnownext.com/cher-donated-180000-bottles-of-water-to-flint-michigan-because-shes-cher-bitch/01/2016/
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    Jan 17, 2016 5:32 AM GMT
    GM needs to pay for this not us
  • metta

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    Jan 17, 2016 6:47 AM GMT
    Obama Declares A Federal Emergency In Michigan Due To Lead Contaminated Water


    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/16/obama-declares-federal-emergency-michigan-due-lead-contaminated-water.html
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    Jan 17, 2016 7:22 AM GMT
    metta saidObama Declares A Federal Emergency In Michigan Due To Lead Contaminated Water


    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/16/obama-declares-federal-emergency-michigan-due-lead-contaminated-water.html

    So the rest of us have to bear the cost of Michigan's criminally incompetent Republican Governor? Who created this crisis, then tried to ignore it? Wonderful.

    Obviously the residents must be protected, especially the children who are most vulnerable to lead contamination in the water supply. But where's the State accountability here? Are we just gonna hear the usual self-serving cop-out that it's "time to move on"?

    I won't think it's time to move on until Governor Snyder is criminally prosecuted for his actions that created this disaster, and his lack of timely action once it happened.
  • metta

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    Jan 19, 2016 12:57 AM GMT
    Muslims Just Donated 30,000 Bottles Of Water To Victims Of Michigan Poisoning

    http://www.occupydemocrats.com/muslims-just-donated-30000-bottles-of-water-to-victims-of-michigan-poisoning/
  • metta

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    Jan 20, 2016 1:15 AM GMT
    Obama Drops The Hammer And Vetoes Republican Bill That Kills Clean Water Rules

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/19/obama-drops-hammer-vetoes-republican-bill-kills-clean-water-rules.html
  • metta

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    Jan 23, 2016 4:42 AM GMT
    America's lead poisoning problem isn't just in Flint. It’s everywhere.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/1/21/10811004/lead-poisoning-cities-us
  • metta

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    Jan 25, 2016 1:47 AM GMT
    Jeb Bush praises Michigan governor for post-Flint leadership


    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266832-jeb-bush-praises-michigan-governor-for-post-flint
  • metta

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    Jan 25, 2016 4:51 AM GMT
    Revealed: Environmental officials warned Snyder administration not to use water that poisoned Flint

    "A plan to use the Flint River as Flint, Michigan’s primary water source was initially rejected by a commission appointed by the state’s Republican Gov. Rick Snyder, but the governor’s office overruled officials and carried the plan forward anyway."

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/revealed-environmental-officials-warned-snyder-administration-not-to-use-water-that-poisoned-flint/
  • metta

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    Jan 26, 2016 1:45 AM GMT
    Rick Snyder Donor Picked To Lead Investigation Of Flint Water Crisis

    "Schuette said that he has selected former prosecutor Todd Flood, a donor to both Schuette and Gov. Rick Synder (R), to determine whether anyone broke state law."

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/25/3742461/michigan-attorney-general-appoints-snyder-donor/
  • metta

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    Jan 28, 2016 9:16 PM GMT
    Michigan Officials Quietly Gave Bottled Water To State Employees Months Before Flint Residents


    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/01/28/3743987/flint-water-state-employees/
  • metta

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    Jan 29, 2016 3:00 AM GMT
    Snyder Has No Immediate plans To Replace Water Pipes in Flint


    http://wegoted.com/2016/01/snyder-has-no-immediate-plans-to-replace-water-pipes-in-flint/
  • metta

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    Jan 29, 2016 6:00 AM GMT
    Governor heckled out of Old Town Tavern in downtown Ann Arbor

    http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/01/governor_heckled_out_of_old_to.html
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 29, 2016 10:53 PM GMT
    I don't believe in the death penalty, BUT Rick Snyder should be criminally charged and thrown in prison for the remainder of his natural life, along with every other government official who allowed for this to happen... Anything less, and it will just happen again to another community. There should be zero lenience. Public officials who blatantly poison their communities should be given the harshest prison sentences the state allows!!!
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    Jan 29, 2016 11:08 PM GMT
    metta saidGovernor heckled out of Old Town Tavern in downtown Ann Arbor

    http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2016/01/governor_heckled_out_of_old_to.html

    LOL! Old Town is one of my old AA haunts - and I would have joined in the heckling had I been there. Damn, I missed him by only a month! At least he had sense enough to steer clear of Dominick's.

    Snyder's handling of this matter has been inept from the start, and he's continued to do so abysmally. Those GOPers who voted to dumb down the Clean Water Act rightly earned Obama's veto. It's stupid moves like these, not their rightful opposition to open borders and importing "refugees" into the US, that cost the GOP votes and prevent them from being a viable voting option to many who, equally rightfully, reject Hillary and Bernie.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 30, 2016 12:47 AM GMT
    please, Michigan has been a polluted, filthy mess for decades, and the Dems didn't do shit about it either

    Flint isn't the only city with horrible water
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    Jan 30, 2016 12:52 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidplease, Michigan has been a polluted, filthy mess for decades, and the Dems didn't do shit about it either

    Flint isn't the only city with horrible water


    None of what you said has any bearing on the Flint problem. (Not sure I'd call it a tragedy, but whatever...) Flint's infrastructure has been crippled by mismanagement and short-sighted penny pinching by the inept state government.
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    Jan 30, 2016 12:54 AM GMT
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    tj85016 saidplease, Michigan has been a polluted, filthy mess for decades, and the Dems didn't do shit about it either

    Flint isn't the only city with horrible water


    None of what you said has any bearing on the Flint problem. (Not sure I'd call it a tragedy, but whatever...) Flint's infrastructure has been crippled by mismanagement and short-sighted penny pinching by the inept state government.


    who said it was a state issue (or a Federal issue)? raise the local taxes, sell the fucking bonds and fix/replace the pipes

    the pipes are probably over 100 years old

    but they didn't, did they?
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    Jan 30, 2016 12:56 AM GMT
    tj85016 said
    javelin7 said
    tj85016 saidplease, Michigan has been a polluted, filthy mess for decades, and the Dems didn't do shit about it either

    Flint isn't the only city with horrible water


    None of what you said has any bearing on the Flint problem. (Not sure I'd call it a tragedy, but whatever...) Flint's infrastructure has been crippled by mismanagement and short-sighted penny pinching by the inept state government.


    who said it was a state issue (or a Federal issue)? raise the local taxes, sell the fucking bonds and fix/replace the pipes

    the pipes are probably over 100 years old

    but they didn't, did they?


    Have you read a single article about this? The pipes were damaged because the state used corrosive water from the Flint River instead of buying it from Detroit as they always had done. Now the phosphate lining in the pipes is gone and lead is leeching into the water.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 30, 2016 1:02 AM GMT
    ^^

    most water supplies are municipal/local issues

    but Flint was so fucked up, the state had to run in

    and why is the Flint River so corrosive and polluted? - the area was run by Democrats for decades

    the pipes have been there for decades and the river has been polluted for decades

    who's fault is that?

    they should have raised taxes, sell bonds and fix the pipes years ago, but they didn't

    and many MI towns are just as bad
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    Jan 30, 2016 1:05 AM GMT
    Actually, none of the hysterical political nonsense flying around in the media has any bearing on the problem.

    At one level, it's a technical problem that reporters don't understand, so they just go with hysteria.

    At another level, it's the typical rust-belt dilemma. Poor people live in Flint because it's cheap. If you rebuild the city to make it all squeaky clean, those people will have to move away to the next shittier place.

    And as for the OP, the so-called "Clean Water Bill" had nothing to do with clean water, and nothing whatsoever to do with Flint. It was just a bureaucratic power-grab that would turn farmer's into walking ATM machines. I only wish they would apply that sort of crap to cities and suburbs first, so people would know what it's like.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 30, 2016 1:09 AM GMT
    ^^

    you need a pretty low pH level to start leaching lead off pipes, even if they're 100 years old

    why is the Flint River so corrosive?
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    Jan 30, 2016 1:23 AM GMT
    No, you don't need especially low pH. Most eastern cities adjust the pH very high - like around 10, to prevent leaching of old pipes. Probably more dissolved solids in river water than in great lake water. Lots of the groundwater around there is extremely hard (not to mention full of metals, which is why, you know, the industry went there in the first place) with a high corrosivity index.

    All of the pipes are probably half-filled with old sediment and scale. Any change in water chemistry is going to change the solubility of some of that and stir things up. There isn't enough information in the news (and too much mis-information) to be exact.

    Most of the problem is probably the plumbing in people's houses and apartment buildings.

    Most of the "horror story" pictures the press is digging up were probably always like that.

    Kids in Flint have had elevated lead, forever, because of the soil in their yards. In the 80's, they were trucking in (too little) new top soil to try to cover it up. It's probably all gone now, or stirred in with the old stuff.

    Hell, just walk around town and look at the sidewalks. There is so much iron ore in the gravel that the concrete is all full of rusty pock-marks.