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  • badbug

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    Jan 18, 2016 9:40 AM GMT
    pointless ramble,


    I am tired. I had an emotional day. I miss drugs.

    Anyone miss drugs? Anyone really enjoy drugs but had to quit them for reasons?

    I quit pot cause i just smoked it too much. It was too easy to justify lighting up, so i ended up smoking it all the time. I can't take opioids right now, cause i have shoulder issues and if i don't know how much pain i am in, it's hard to workout cause i could be pushing myself too hard.

    I am pretty good about my opioid use. I do them every 6 months for a month. 2 weeks of fun, 2 weeks of weening off and then 6 months to build my tolerance up. It works well for me, but these damn shoulders. I don't drink. It's just not that fun unless you drink too much, and that's fatty town. And i enjoy being drunk so much less than high.

    And the older i get, the more i realise i am not a relationship person. I need fucking space but i hate the idea of someone wanting to give it to me. Being in a relationship just drives me mental unless the person is far away. I think my ideal relationship is a permanent long distance one, where we hook up once or twice a year. That's just not overly realistic of course.





  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 18, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
    You can't miss what you never had... but I must admit, I do have a drug, which I can't quit, can't shake, I embrace it everyday and it is a part of my life and is more powerful than any drug.....

    It is called fitness and it's what we talk about here.
    I hope you gain from being on RJ and kick the drug scene.
  • leanandclean

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    Jan 18, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidYou can't miss what you never had... but I must admit, I do have a drug, which I can't quit, can't shake, I embrace it everyday and it is a part of my life and is more powerful than any drug.....

    It is called fitness and it's what we talk about here.
    I hope you gain from being on RJ and kick the drug scene.


    Sing it, brother!
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    Jan 19, 2016 2:25 AM GMT
    Drugs will kill you one way or another...icon_smile.gif
  • badbug

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    Jan 19, 2016 4:10 AM GMT


    You people watched too many after school specials.


    Most of you have done drugs, most of the people you know have done drugs. Ever have a surgery? Know anyone who has? Whether it is heroin or oxy or codeine it's all converted to morphine by your body.

    Did your grandma start shooting up after her hip replacement?


    If i wrote "anyone miss booze" would the replies be the same? "anyone miss anti-depressants" "anyone miss cake"?

    You preachy bastards. icon_biggrin.gif

    Jesus, i can't imagine finding out that there is this wonderful pill that makes you feel like you're floating....and going my whole life without trying it cause Nancy Reagan told me not to, while her husband was selling drugs to fund CIA missions and getting massive donations from pharma companies.

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    Jan 19, 2016 5:25 AM GMT
    badbug saidJesus, i can't imagine finding out that there is this wonderful pill that makes you feel like you're floating....and going my whole life without trying it cause Nancy Reagan told me not to, while her husband was selling drugs to fund CIA missions and getting massive donations from pharma companies.


    Nancy Reagan's not the problem. The problem with all opioids is that it's relatively easy to overdose on them. You may think your use is safe, but so did several of my classmates in high school. Luckily none of them ended up dying, but being hospitalized wasn't their idea of fun.

    Lucky me, I get my high from running. And unless there is a hot butt running in front of me, I am not even likely to get distracted enough to run into a tree, so it's near zero risk!
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    Jan 19, 2016 5:38 AM GMT
    Badbug, at least you can admit where the problem is at. One of the things we often talk about with Motivational Interviewing is to look at what you get out of drug use or why you do it. It doesn't necessarily focus on the "preachy" why drugs are bad for you usual crap. It helps people to have an open dialogue about the pros and cons of drug or alcohol use. I did the standard pot scene and for me, I needed to find something else to make me happy- but everyone has to come to terms with their own use and whether it's detrimental to their own health and wellness. I would never preach about drug use, I just hope that you can find what makes you happy.

    For what it's worth, from a harm reduction perspective, even one day of abstinence is a step towards recovery.
  • eM_Jay

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    Jan 19, 2016 11:15 AM GMT
    badbug said pointless ramble,


    I am tired. I had an emotional day. I miss drugs.

    Anyone miss drugs? Anyone really enjoy drugs but had to quit them for reasons?



    You sound like me when i need a nap.... icon_biggrin.gif

    I'd be lying if i said i dont occasionally miss blowing off some steam by popping a few pills and lighting up some grass. Weed i especially miss now cause it was an easy way to shed weight, and now that im chubby again (not for drug-related reasons) it seems appealing sometimes. But then again im working on getting my fitness back the right, healthy and sustainable way so that keeps me away from anything. Basically i liked drugs, not cause i had a hard time with life or anything but they were just fun for me during my undergrad years when i could coast through classes and exams high as a kite. Now though i have to make effort in my work and drugs would only just mess with my plans and already packed schedule. I guess that helps keep them at bay.

    Basically just fill your schedule with stuff that will take your mind off drugs, something you enjoy doing even more than getting high. Find what that is and it should work, did for me. Gym's a good way, i just cycle or pull out my yoga mat and that keeps me from having enough 'steam' in me icon_wink.gif
  • badbug

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    Jan 19, 2016 1:07 PM GMT

    Basically just fill your schedule with stuff that will take your mind off drugs, something you enjoy doing even more than getting high


    For me, it's like a little consciousness vacation. Is where i live nice? Sure. But sometimes you want to travel. A 2 week stint on happy pills, everything is just brighter for a little while...not to mention pain reduction.




    The problem with all opioids is that it's relatively easy to overdose on them. You may think your use is safe, but so did several of my classmates in high school


    I am not a crack addict. I don't crush my pills and can't keep track of the volume in my blood.
    They are in pretty extensive use and very few people have issues with the maximum daily allowance, which i don't go over. I get them from a doctor, not some dude on the street.

    As i mentioned, i do 2 weeks on. 2 weeks weening off and then 6 months before i start again.




    the things we often talk about with Motivational Interviewing is to look at what you get out of drug use or why you do it


    Cause it feels good. Cause it is very hard to feel that good that quickly for that amount of time, without either being in the first stages of a new relationship, the honeymoon phase, or without meditation....which is harder to go from zero to sixty. Achieving that state of bliss, is something you slowly work up to with meditation, by the time you get to that state you sort of miss the darker colours of some things.


    I just hope that you can find what makes you happy


    Drugs! icon_smile.gif


    No, i am a high highs, low lows type of person. I have gotten much better with age but when things get a little crazy, i match them with crazy pretty well.

    I would say, i am happy 80 percent of the time. Like giddy laugh at everything, enjoy everything, appreciate just being alive type happy.
    20 percent of the time, i am a mix of negative emotions, some more fun than others.

    I think that's also part of the "issue". I get pretty crazy fun/energetic/blissful daily. Getting high through morphine just makes me that much more gleeful. I am also a low tolerance part of the population, so any morphine related drugs effect me more. Something like 10 percent of the people, either respond to morphine too little or too well.

    It's why some people think Tylenol-3s with codeine, do nothing and others (like me) get totally really warm and fuzzy off of 2.



    get my high from running. And unless there is a hot butt running in front of me, I am not even likely to get distracted enough to run into a tree, so it's near zero risk!


    I hope so. Though a lot of people fuck up their knees. You need to watch that shit.


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    Jan 19, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
    I don't miss drugs even a little bit. Smoking pot was fun, but I never did experience any type of withdrawal or craving. Every once in a while I'll still take a toke or two, but have to keep it to a bare minimum due to random drug testing at work.
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    Jan 19, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
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    neffa saidDrugs will kill you one way or another...icon_smile.gif


    I've lost a lot of good people to drugs. So many that it's almost tough to remember the order of deaths. The last two died relatively recently, one a friend from high school who had stopped most drugs but was still smoking cigarettes heavily, went to Alaska for work, got pneumonia within a week or two there and died shortly thereafter. That was right after the housing crash and he had lost his job, retrained, found a job only far away and died. And another friend, a very dear friend of mine, who was closer to him, he lost his mom recently who his drug dealing brother had gotten hooked on OxyContin. He had already lost his child abusing cop father to alcoholism. So my friend is very involved in yoga and being sober, has been for many years now.

    The last one to die before all that was a Hell's Angel in his youth. Died in his 50s. The guy looked like he was in his 80s. But I've lost probably around a dozen directly or indirectly to drugs, including at least three overdoses that I can immediately bring to mind. And two of those were my neighbors growing up in very white bread world. One of those who was often a douche anyone would have figured would die early but the other, his best friend, was a really nice guy, just a gentle soul, dead too soon.
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    Jan 19, 2016 3:27 PM GMT

    pointless reply to a pointless ramble,

    what irritates me the most about this post is badbug's defensive replies to people who comment about the dangers of highly addictive, high damaging chemical substances. tough shit, badbug - what exactly did you expect from your pointless ramble? Hugs?

    your post makes you seem, to me, like your life has gone off course. you seemed to need to make a post that justifies your destructive behavior. You may not think it is, and can tell yourself "I know me and I know how to do this the right way."

    Sorry, I've heard that before. And it rarely ends well.

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    Jan 19, 2016 3:58 PM GMT
    eM_Jay said

    ...Weed i especially miss now cause it was an easy way to shed weight...


    Really? What do you think inspired the creation of peanut butter, marshmallow fluff and banana sammiches?
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    Jan 19, 2016 4:39 PM GMT
    badbug said pointless ramble,


    I am tired. I had an emotional day. I miss drugs.

    Anyone miss drugs? Anyone really enjoy drugs but had to quit them for reasons?

    I quit pot cause i just smoked it too much. It was too easy to justify lighting up, so i ended up smoking it all the time. I can't take opioids right now, cause i have shoulder issues and if i don't know how much pain i am in, it's hard to workout cause i could be pushing myself too hard.

    I am pretty good about my opioid use. I do them every 6 months for a month. 2 weeks of fun, 2 weeks of weening off and then 6 months to build my tolerance up. It works well for me, but these damn shoulders. I don't drink. It's just not that fun unless you drink too much, and that's fatty town. And i enjoy being drunk so much less than high.

    And the older i get, the more i realise i am not a relationship person. I need fucking space but i hate the idea of someone wanting to give it to me. Being in a relationship just drives me mental unless the person is far away. I think my ideal relationship is a permanent long distance one, where we hook up once or twice a year. That's just not overly realistic of course.







    You'd be surprised when it comes to relationships. I knew an Chinese woman who visited her husband in China once a year. She said it was the perfect marriage for her.

    As far as drugs, I stopped drinking because it affects my sleep which stops me from going to the gym. I have a natural high tolerance for weed so I don't use it. Its not worth it. I have an active imagination so I alter my own mental state. A few years ago I was on 10mgs of lexapro for my social anxiety. I'm one of those rare people for when it kicks in I go into a brief manic state that is similar to being on ecstasy.
  • eM_Jay

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    Jan 19, 2016 9:22 PM GMT
    bon_pan said
    eM_Jay said

    ...Weed i especially miss now cause it was an easy way to shed weight...


    Really? What do you think inspired the creation of peanut butter, marshmallow fluff and banana sammiches?


    No idea but it sounds revolting to me (to each his own i guess). Good thing my 'munchies preference' was always popcorn and green-tea icon_razz.gif
  • badbug

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    Jan 19, 2016 11:33 PM GMT

    what irritates me the most about this post is badbug's defensive replies to people who comment about the dangers of highly addictive, high damaging chemical substances


    Lots of things in this world are dangerous.

    Speed, yet not too many people like the idea of reducing the speed limit. We're in a hurry.
    Greed, how much of our collective man power goes towards producing wealth, instead of research and medicine? Where are the campaigns condemning working too hard and striving for too much? Why are 300 million dollar yachts seen as an amazing symbol of success and accomplishment, and not as a loathesome symbol of oppression and inner weakness?

    The idea of romantic love, how many suicides does that lead to? Yet i don't see campaigns warning people about the dangers of attachment because some people can't handle rejection. What is love, if not a bunch of chemical substances in your brain?

    You've lost friends to drugs? Or was it because they didn't have the discipline or access to help to use them correctly?



    My "defensive" replies have been to people telling me "drugs are bad" because "some guys i knew didn't use them properly". And which drugs? Alcohol is a drug. Caffeine. Sugar. Sweeteners. Nicotine. Why are some drugs so dangerous that you can't talk about them and others that cause far far more harm to society perfectly acceptable?

    That attitude leads to a society that is pretty ok with locking people in cages, because they have the wrong drug. Oh, you've got a six pack...proceed. Oh, you've got some brown powder? You go to jail for 10 years.


    I've lost a lot of good people to drugs. So many that it's almost tough to remember the order of deaths


    That's rough. The common thread with any behaviour that is harmful is some form of unhappiness. The problem with drugs, or addiction of any kind, is that once you've established a need, you become unhappy just by virtue of losing the benefits of the behaviour.

    That's another reason i feel the "drugs are bad, don't do them" approach is harmful. In country after country that lends itself more to the treatment and education about drug use, rather than the punishment, rates of disease and death due to drug use goes down. Harm reduction works wonders in study after study. We see this with the idea of abstinence. The southern states have a higher rate of teenage pregnancy, because they use the "don't do it" approach.



    I'm one of those rare people for when it kicks in I go into a brief manic state that is similar to being on ecstasy.


    I've had a couple manic states in my life, they were pretty awesome. They only lasted a few hours but i still remember the feeling in one of them.

    Sleep issues suck. I struggled with them for a few months once, it was terrible.


  • HottJoe

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    Jan 20, 2016 12:01 AM GMT
    I really don't recommend quitting weed. Quite the opposite. I think they should give it away in restaurants like an after dinner mint.
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    Jan 20, 2016 8:17 AM GMT
    My bro inlaw got addicted to oxycontin and then went to meth. About a year ago he blew his brains out (in his new truck). So what are you waiting for? Get it over with and spare us with your crybaby drama bullsit.

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    Sometimes, before sex, I wish I had some vodka. It makes a big one riding much easier.
  • badbug

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    Jan 20, 2016 10:01 AM GMT

    My bro inlaw got addicted to oxycontin and then went to meth. About a year ago he blew his brains out (in his new truck). So what are you waiting for? Get it over with and spare us with your crybaby drama bullsit


    That's too bad. I am really sorry. Was it a nice truck? I really like trucks.

    Maybe he turned to drugs because his brother in-law was a piece of shit? Or if you prefer, a piece of sit.




    I really don't recommend quitting weed. Quite the opposite.


    It made me too paranoid, plus smoking anything isn't too great for the lungs and heart.

    I am thinking about buying some edibles for CBD, which is supposed to help with inflammation. The stuff i am looking at doesn't really get you high or anything but it's quite pricey. Luckily, i have a line on a cheap truck...so maybe i can save money there.


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    Jan 20, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    You've lost friends to drugs? Or was it because they didn't have the discipline or access to help to use them correctly?


    This shows what a complete moron you are badbug/SouthMetta. I agree with 2BNaked... you're self-destructive and 100% in denial. Blah blah driving is dangerous blah blah sugar is a drug blah blah flying in airplanes is risky. You are clueless about life and a total burnout. Get help.

  • badbug

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    Jan 21, 2016 8:46 AM GMT

    Blah blah driving is dangerous blah blah sugar is a drug blah blah flying in airplanes is risky. You are clueless about life and a total burnout. Get help


    Yes well "blah blah blah" is certainly a well reasoned rebuttle.

    How am i a total burnout? You do realise the start of this thread was me complaining i haven't done drugs in a fair amount of time?

    This shows what a complete moron you are badbug/SouthMetta. I agree with 2BNaked


    Yes well, that's good company to put yourself in. The poster who calls people expressing their feelings "crybabies" and counsels them to kill themselves. For a person who has been touched by suicide apparently, it's pretty callous. Seeing so far how you express yourself, i am not overly shocked to see you appear to be around the same level of intellect.
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    badbug said
    Blah blah driving is dangerous blah blah sugar is a drug blah blah flying in airplanes is risky. You are clueless about life and a total burnout. Get help


    Yes well "blah blah blah" is certainly a well reasoned rebuttle.

    How am i a total burnout? You do realise the start of this thread was me complaining i haven't done drugs in a fair amount of time?

    This shows what a complete moron you are badbug/SouthMetta. I agree with 2BNaked


    Yes well, that's good company to put yourself in. The poster who calls people expressing their feelings "crybabies" and counsels them to kill themselves. For a person who has been touched by suicide apparently, it's pretty callous. Seeing so far how you express yourself, i am not overly shocked to see you appear to be around the same level of intellect.


    I don't know why I continue to be stunned by your idiotic statements every time a read a post from you.

    If you had posted and said "I've been off drugs for a long time now but am finding myself weak and want to pop some pills or snort a line or shoot up," the responses to you would have been vastly different. Even sympathetic and supportive. Instead, you tried to use the thread to justify your behavior. Did you expect people to say "oh it's ok, go for it badbug, you obviously know how to control it so go get high for a couple months."

    You're a joke.