Inspector General: Clinton emails had intel from most secretive, classified programs. [2/1 Fox: Operational intel put lives at risk, MSNBC: Explosive Revelations still to come]

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    Jan 19, 2016 8:44 PM GMT
    Whether she is preemptively pardoned or indicted, her campaign is on a death spiral. The Dems know Sanders is unelectable. Will Biden jump in, Gore, Kerry, Hiawatha Warren? A dark horse?

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    EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

    Fox News exclusively obtained the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).

    That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.

    “To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element. These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels,” said the IG letter to lawmakers with oversight of the intelligence community and State Department. “According to the declarant, these documents contain information derived from classified IC element sources.”

    Intelligence from a "special access program,” or SAP, is even more sensitive than that designated as "top secret" – as were two emails identified last summer in a random sample pulled from Clinton's private server she used as secretary of state. Access to a SAP is restricted to those with a "need-to-know" because exposure of the intelligence would likely reveal the source, putting a method of intelligence collection -- or a human asset -- at risk. Currently, some 1,340 emails designated “classified” have been found on Clinton’s server, though the Democratic presidential candidate insists the information was not classified at the time.

    “There is absolutely no way that one could not recognize SAP material,” a former senior law enforcement with decades of experience investigating violations of SAP procedures told Fox News. “It is the most sensitive of the sensitive.”


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html?intcmp=hpbt1

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    Why would they think Sanders is unelectable?
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    Faux News should be able to tell the world what highly classified programs these are, right? Anyone should be able to access this IG information through the freedom of information act, this is not Faux News exclusive. Who filed the original complaint with ICIG? (no doubt, a right wing republican fanatic on a fishing expedition) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif

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    Faux News should be able to tell the world what highly classified programs these are, right? Anyone should be able to access this IG information through the freedom of information act, this is not Faux News exclusive. Who filed the original complaint with ICIG? (no doubt, a republican fanatic on a fishing expedition) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif



    Yeah, this is the same pair of Fox reporters who, despite all the people the FBI are supposedly throwing at this case, still can't find one FBI source and, instead, have to rely on "intelligence sources" for their "exclusives" on this FBI investigation. It's like claiming to have an exclusive on an army story, while stating all your sources are in the navy - not entirely implausible, but not exactly persuasive either.
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    Ex_Mil8 said
    ELNathB said

    Faux News should be able to tell the world what highly classified programs these are, right? Anyone should be able to access this IG information through the freedom of information act, this is not Faux News exclusive. Who filed the original complaint with ICIG? (no doubt, a republican fanatic on a fishing expedition) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif



    Yeah, this is the same pair of Fox reporters who, despite all the people the FBI are supposedly throwing at this case, still can't find one FBI source and, instead, have to rely on "intelligence sources" for their "exclusives" on this FBI investigation. It's like claiming to have an exclusive on an army story, while stating all your sources are in the navy - not entirely implausible, but not exactly persuasive either.




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    How do I make a Freedom of Information Act Request? Each Office has there own Inspector General, in this case, its the Office of the Director of National Intelligence
    http://www.foia.gov/how-to.html

    If the information you want is not publicly available, you can submit a FOIA request to the agency's FOIA Office. The request simply must be in writing and reasonably describe the records you seek. Most federal agencies now accept FOIA requests electronically, including by web form, e-mail or fax.

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    southbeach1500 saidBTW... Was hilarious that the rare "Democrat Debate" Sunday night ended 10 minutes early and not one question was asked about the FBI investigation.

    NBC in the tank for Hillary.

    That farce was the last thing I was going to get in the way of my watching "Downton Abbey!"
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    southbeach1500 saidBTW... Was hilarious that the rare "Democrat Debate" Sunday night ended 10 minutes early and not one question was asked about the FBI investigation.

    NBC in the tank for Hillary.




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    Jan 19, 2016 11:49 PM GMT
    If the IG letter was forged or misquoted that will be widely known very soon. Otherwise, the letter speaks for itself and all the crying about FOX News is irrelevant. BTW anyone without reading comprehension issues would know the IG letter was unclassified.
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    Jan 20, 2016 1:55 AM GMT
    Krauthammer’s Take: Hillary E-mail Scandal Now ‘Worse than What Snowden Did’

    A new report that Hillary Clinton’s personal server contained information about “special access programs” makes her handling of sensitive material “worse than what Snowden did,” Charles Krauthammer said tonight.

    “What people have to understand is that there is nothing higher, more secret than an SAP,” Krauthammer said on Tuesday’s Special Report. “From some people I have talked to, this is worse than what Snowden did because he didn’t have access to SAP.” “

    The reason it’s [so sensitive] is if it’s compromised, people die,” he said. “It also means that operations that have been embedded for years and years get destroyed and cannot be reconstituted. This is very serious.”

    Krauthammer said this update makes it unlikely the Department of Justice will “wave it away”:

    Petraeus, as was mentioned earlier, he pled guilty because precisely this kind of information he shared. And I don’t see, given the fact that he is the inspector general of the intelligence community who was writing this officially to the intelligence committee heads in Congress that there is any way to contradict this. It is not a news story. This is an investigative story. And now it’s in the hands of the FBI. It’s hard to imagine that the Department of Justice will ignore this or wave it away.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/430029/krauthammers-take-hillary-e-mail-scandal-now-worse-what-snowden-did
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    Jan 20, 2016 2:58 AM GMT
    The secret information on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s personal email was more highly classified than previously understood, according to the intelligence community’s internal watchdog.

    In a letter to Capitol Hill obtained by The Hill, Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III wrote that Clinton had highly classified information known as “special access programs” (SAP) on her private server.

    “To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element,” the watchdog told lawmakers in Congress, Fox reported. “These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, and TOP SECRET/SAP levels.

    more...

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/266326-clinton-emails-contained-need-to-know-classified-info
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    Jan 20, 2016 4:01 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidIf the IG letter was forged or misquoted that will be widely known very soon. Otherwise, the letter speaks for itself and all the crying about FOX News is irrelevant. BTW anyone without reading comprehension issues would know the IG letter was unclassified.


    Apparently to the RJ liberals:

    FBI = Fox News
    Inspector General = Fox News

    What a stunning display of stupidity.
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    Jan 20, 2016 5:27 AM GMT
    Anyone who has ever been anywhere close to classified info knows she cannot survive. That is... unless there are rules for them and rules for us.
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    southbeach1500 said
    Ex_Mil8 said
    Yeah, this is the same pair of Fox reporters who, despite all the people the FBI are supposedly throwing at this case, still can't find one FBI source and, instead, have to rely on "intelligence sources" for their "exclusives" on this FBI investigation. It's like claiming to have an exclusive on an army story, while stating all your sources are in the navy - not entirely implausible, but not exactly persuasive either.


    Dopey Brit.


    A rare "reply" from the Southbeach copy and paste autobot - because, if you can't find an argument, just try name-calling instead.
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    Ex_Mil8 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Ex_Mil8 said
    Yeah, this is the same pair of Fox reporters who, despite all the people the FBI are supposedly throwing at this case, still can't find one FBI source and, instead, have to rely on "intelligence sources" for their "exclusives" on this FBI investigation. It's like claiming to have an exclusive on an army story, while stating all your sources are in the navy - not entirely implausible, but not exactly persuasive either.

    Dopey Brit.

    A rare "reply" from the Southbeach copy and paste autobot - because, if you can't find an argument, just try name-calling instead.

    A rare reply from me also. I doubt many read your dribble, but in case any do, I will explain his Dopey comment.

    An FBI investigation will often involve another agency. For example, if the crime is finance related, it's likely the Dept of Treasury will be involved. If the crime involves the mishandling or leaking of classified material, the Department of Defense and other intelligence agencies will almost certainly be involved. If the investigation involves taxes, the IRS will likely be involved. A complex investigation will often involve a coordinated effort among multiple agencies.

    Your comment in the other thread and this one is totally ignorant.
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    Jan 20, 2016 11:33 AM GMT
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    An FBI investigation will often involve another agency. For example, if the crime is finance related, it's likely the Dept of Treasury will be involved. If the crime involves the mishandling or leaking of classified material, the Department of Defense and other intelligence agencies will almost certainly be involved. If the investigation involves taxes, the IRS will likely be involved. A complex investigation will often involve a coordinated effort among multiple agencies.


    "Involved" yes, but an assisting agency is unlikely to have full knowledge of the scope and details of an FBI investigation. And yet, Fox News are asking us to believe their sources are giving them reliable information, even though their reporters haven't managed to get so much as a confirmatory nod from any source within the investigating agency itself. As I said, not totally implausible, but not entirely convincing either.

    Let us know when the quotes start coming from an "FBI source" and the "exclusives" start coming from an outlet not called Fox News.
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    Jan 20, 2016 1:19 PM GMT
    No one listens when the republicans cry wolf anymore. You guys lost all credibility when you never got any of your false accusations to stick to Obama.

    I still haven't found a single RJ conservative who can name one meaningful accomplishment of the GOP in the last 8 years. The only thing they credit themselves for is unsuccessfully obstructing democrats. Pathetic!
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    HottJoe saidNo one listens when the republicans cry wolf anymore. You guys lost all credibility when you never got any of your false accusations to stick to Obama.

    I still haven't found a single RJ conservative who can name one meaningful accomplishment of the GOP in the last 8 years. The only thing they credit themselves for is unsuccessfully obstructing democrats. Pathetic!


    Race relations have grown worse under Obama. Does your liberal white guilt blame whites 100%, and not allow you to put even 1% of the blame onto Obama? Better to stay focused on the real issue....crimes by Hillary.

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    Jan 20, 2016 4:54 PM GMT
    *Yawn*
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    HndsmKansan said*Yawn*
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    Possible it wouldn't be so boring to you if you realized the seriousness of mishandling classified material, especially SCI or SAP. It's not just about disclosing, say information about weapons. It's about allowing to have information disclosed about those in foreign countries who are helping the US, jeopardizing their lives and their families as well.

    It also might not be so boring to you if you realized that prior to getting access to such material you have to sign a statement stating you understand the sensitivity and promise to safeguard the material. Hillary by setting up a non-secured private server, failed, and it wasn't accidental.

    Perhaps you don't care that she lied about the whole thing several times, and changed her stories to cover up one lie after another.
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    HndsmKansan said*Yawn*
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    Possible it wouldn't be so boring to you if you realized the seriousness of mishandling classified material, especially SCI or SAP. It's not just about disclosing, say information about weapons. It's about allowing to have information disclosed about those in foreign countries who are helping the US, jeopardizing their lives and their families as well.

    It also might not be so boring to you if you realized that prior to getting access to such material you have to sign a statement stating you understand the sensitivity and promise to safeguard the material. Hillary by setting up a non-secured private server, failed, and it wasn't accidental.

    Perhaps you don't care that she lied about the whole thing several times, and changed her stories to cover up one lie after another.


    On January 22, 2009, a day after assuming office as Secretary of State, Clinton signed a “Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement” outlining criminal penalties and blocking any future government positions for “any unauthorized disclosure” of classified information.

    James Comey – not Bernie Sanders -is the biggest challenge to Hillary Clinton’s presidential ambitions.

    The only question is what will DOJ do? No average person would escape jail after doing any of this.

    Numerous federal public corruption cases have been developed and prosecuted with a lot less evidence than they’ve already collected against her.




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    desertmuscl saidOn January 22, 2009, a day after assuming office as Secretary of State, Clinton signed a “Sensitive Compartmented Information Nondisclosure Agreement” outlining criminal penalties and blocking any future government positions for “any unauthorized disclosure” of classified information.

    James Comey – not Bernie Sanders -is the biggest challenge to Hillary Clinton’s presidential ambitions.

    The only question is what will DOJ do? No average person would escape jail after doing any of this.

    Numerous federal public corruption cases have been developed and prosecuted with a lot less evidence than they’ve already collected against her.

    Good points.

    A couple more tidbits:

    1) Does playing the "vast right-wing conspiracy" tactic of the 90s indicate desperation and panic?
    Hillary’s Campaign Accuses Intel IG Of Coordinating With GOP On Damning Email Reports
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/19/hillarys-campaign-accuses-intel-ig-of-coordinating-with-gop-on-damning-email-reports/

    2) Will Obama pardon Hillary?
    If she continues her campaign anyway, are there enough like some on RJ who don't give a rat's ass about integrity and following the law if there is a D after the name? http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/will_obama_pardon_hillary.html
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    Jan 20, 2016 6:39 PM GMT
    “This is the same interagency dispute that has been playing out for months, and it does not change the fact that these emails were not classified at the time they were sent or received,” Brian Fallon, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign, said.

    “It appears that this may still revolve around a State Department employee forwarding a published news article about the drone program,” he said. “If so, it would further reinforce how absurd it is to suggest that Secretary Clinton did anything wrong.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/01/19/us/politics/ap-us-clinton-emails.html

    Seems perfectly plausible.

    I could probably find some information derived from IC element sources in a news report on the internet. If I then copied the same report and sent it in an email, I might be sending information that could well have originally been classified TOP SECRET/SAP and it would now be on my computer and on the person's receiving it.