Donald Thump Embraces Homophobe Falwell Legacy: "Christianity is under attack. But we are going to protect Christianity."

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    http://www.bpnews.net/46164/trump-at-liberty-univ-im-big-with-evangelicals
    ...Falwell told the students that while the university wasn't officially endorsing the New York businessman, Trump is a caring man who is politically incorrect and reminded him of his father, Jerry Falwell Sr. -- which Trump said was the best compliment of all...

    "AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."~~Jerry Falwell

    "We will see a breakdown of the family and family values if we decide to approve same-sex marriage, and if we decide to establish homosexuality as an acceptable alternative lifestyle with all the benefits that go with equating it with the heterosexual lifestyle."~~Jerry Falwell

    "Tinky Winky is gay."~~Jerry Falwell

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    Jan 20, 2016 3:22 AM GMT
    Meanwhile, others are watching the frightening show



    After UK, Germans call for Trump ban
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/08/after-uk-germans-call-for-trump-ban.html

    A German lawmaker has called for Donald Trump to be banned from entering the country, arguing that the Republican presidential candidate's comments on Muslims incite racial hatred.



    Trump Organization threatens to strip $1 billion of investment from Scottish golf resorts
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/07/trump-threatens-to-strip-1-billion--investment-from-scottish-golf-resorts.html

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's company has threatened to withhold up to $1 billion of investment if the U.K. government decides to ban his entry into the country.

    Thousands of U.K. citizens signed a petition in December calling on the government to block Trump from entering the country. On Thursday, more than 570,000 had signed the petition, legally forcing the U.K. government to debate the petition on January 18.



    As an American citizen, I feel as though I must apologize to our euro neighborhoods for having to sit through 3 hours of deliberation about "The Trump American Sickness" icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Jan 21, 2016 2:13 AM GMT
    It seems pretty obvious that Trump is paying lip service to the Evangelicals, but this rhetoric, from him and others, is really starting to piss me off. Especially the language some are using, filling their speech with the lexicon of war and talking about how they have to "band together" because Christianity needs to be protected against constant "attacks". Hogwash.

    The number of Americans who identify as Christians is dropping, so instead of applying free-market principals and offering a better "product", Christian leadership is looking to government to intervene. Ironic that small government conservatives would do this. And they are doing it with a trumped-up "war" on Christianity (pun intended).

    This is part of a much bigger narrative that has people saying that "Americans are at their most divided in history, and I was born in the '50's," as though they've seen so much division in their lifetimes. Well, had they been born in the eighteen fifties, they would have seen us at our most divided, which was real compared to what we have now.

    This false narrative is perpetuated by the media, which has no left or right loyalties, but are loyal only to ratings, and what draws eyeballs to the screen are the most extreme ideologues. Preferably those with the loudest voices and vitriolic language. They are creating this false notion that half of us think one way, and half another. Ridiculous.

    The truth is that the majority of Americans are pretty moderate: Leaning right on economic issues, and leaning left on social issues. Sadly there is none that will represent this true and silenced majority. All we have are mostly whackos on one extreme or another, or those pandering to one extreme or another. Hard to tell which.
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    Jan 21, 2016 2:48 PM GMT
    Interesting speech in Nath's vid, I got through some minutes (I might watch more later) thinking how odd that the British, whose humor I love, would take this so seriously. I might call for banning him too but figuratively and in jest by his banning others. But here, the British in their humor of humors present it so seriously to the level of governmental debate, fascinating to watch.

    Where I paused was upon some very nice gratitude the speaker bestowed upon America:

    @14:10 "This is a country of which our cultures are melded together over the years moving ever closer. This is the country that's sacrificed more of its sons and daughters in the cause of creating democracies in other countries than any other nation on Earth. This is the land of Barack Obama, of Martin Luther King and Abraham Lincoln."

    And then that's followed up within a few moments by that inimitably pointed British humor by another speaker:

    "...so we have to be allowed the possibility that this ridiculous individual that is Mr. Trump may be elected as president of the United States. In that event, would such a ban be overturned?..."

    And so then the original speakers goes on to clarify that they are indeed intent on disrespecting Trump but not the American people.

    Ya gotta love the British.
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    Jan 21, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
    Hypertrophile saidIt seems pretty obvious that Trump is paying lip service to the Evangelicals, but this rhetoric, from him and others, is really starting to piss me off. Especially the language some are using, filling their speech with the lexicon of war and talking about how they have to "band together" because Christianity needs to be protected against constant "attacks". Hogwash.

    The number of Americans who identify as Christians is dropping, so instead of applying free-market principals and offering a better "product", Christian leadership is looking to government to intervene. Ironic that small government conservatives would do this. And they are doing it with a trumped-up "war" on Christianity (pun intended).

    This is part of a much bigger narrative that has people saying that "Americans are at their most divided in history, and I was born in the '50's," as though they've seen so much division in their lifetimes. Well, had they been born in the eighteen fifties, they would have seen us at our most divided, which was real compared to what we have now.

    This false narrative is perpetuated by the media, which has no left or right loyalties, but are loyal only to ratings, and what draws eyeballs to the screen are the most extreme ideologues. Preferably those with the loudest voices and vitriolic language. They are creating this false notion that half of us think one way, and half another. Ridiculous.

    The truth is that the majority of Americans are pretty moderate: Leaning right on economic issues, and leaning left on social issues. Sadly there is none that will represent this true and silenced majority. All we have are mostly whackos on one extreme or another, or those pandering to one extreme or another. Hard to tell which.


    That sounds a pretty accurate read and though I like to think we're moderate overall, I'd fear a Constitutional Convention right now, or have you missed the conversations on this forum? I'd rather leave that in the hands of the founding fathers than open it up to the unhinged.

    To your point on media, not to excuse it but to understand that today's media, there being so much of it, it's a whole new game for them. What you have now are entities being bought up by hedge funds and run like factories, slicing and dicing and parsimoniously reusing the same shit over and over and over again. Publishing is no longer what it once was. Even books, self publishing, e-books, major shifts in all that since the 80s.

    What once was news that's fit to print (objective enough for publication) became news that's print to fit (between advertisement space), became copy/paste news. So now there's less confirming sources (there's less staff so less careful reporting) and more sourcing out citation of media reporting on media and blogs copy/pasting that and media reporting on who blogged.

    So ever more responsibility for weeding through all that becomes property of the reader, which might work well in an educated society. I'd even make that mandatory curricula. Not just reading, but editing which I guess would come under the heading of critical thinking so devoid today.

    So the competition to be read is just extraordinary now. If it bleeds it leads is yesterday's news. So it can look like mayhem just to get attention. Crazy fucking world today.

    The other aspect about which I might veer some from your post is that this rhetoric doesn't just make me mad, though that might be by my constitution as I tend to get more sad than mad over life's little disappointments; but, rather, this shit scares me. As a Jewish guy, as a gay man--the only thing I'm missing is a vagina and being black--we've seen this shit before. Letting it fester never turned out well.
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    Jan 22, 2016 3:11 AM GMT
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    Mr. Trump compared to Mr. Christ

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/falwell-jr-donald-trump-jesus-christ-martin-luther-king-jr-and-jerry-falwell
    “Donald Trump lives a life of loving and helping others, as Jesus taught in the Great Commandment.”

    He also compared the GOP presidential frontrunner to Jesus Christ, King and his father, the late televangelist Jerry Falwell, explaining that none of them were “politically incorrect.”