STD Outbreak???

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    Feb 05, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    Ok, so I was watching a european porn last night and I noticed they were bbing. Looked at a few more as the first didnt get me off and noticed they all barebacked as well.

    is it just a european thing to bb or could it have something to do with their universal healthcare or something? if it does, do they just get checked that often?

    mabye a dumb question but it was on my mind when i started moving around this morning
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    Feb 05, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
    bareback porn is the largest selling component of the gay porn market with studios making it on both sides of the Atlantic. It has nothing to do with quality of or access to health care and has everything to do with money. There are no industry wide standards for testing, though some studios try to be as responsible about it as possible. Particularly Eastern European bareback porn has a problem with this, and rates of HIV infection is increasing in Baltic states and Russia.

    Even if people use protection when they have sex, consumption of bareback porn fuels a market in which people are at risk and getting infected.
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    Feb 05, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
    Maybe you should write these guys a letter/e-mail and ask them yourself. They might want to give you there answer in person..OMG! I need to log off now.LOL.
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    Feb 05, 2009 7:45 PM GMT
    Use a condom every time. Even preseminal fluid, or "precum", can transmit HIV. You should use a condom even for blow jobs: HIV transmission is very low but still possible, and it beats getting something like gonorrhea or chlamydia down your throat.

    Diseases not prevented by condoms include herpes and genital warts.

    The whole barebacking porn thing is entirely marketing, and a lot of the higher-end studios are having to re-release old movies from before HIV became a problem in order to compete against the pathetic smut you see on sites like Felched, Milk-Squirting Boys, and the aptly-named Barebacked.com (gotta love Google LOL) and they're falling behind pretty quickly. It's becoming apparent that guys would rather watch a skinny, out of shape twink get "creamed" while not looking like he's at all enjoying it rather than watching a professional deliver high-quality "acting" in a safer manner.

    It's pretty scary when you go on dating or hookup sites and see guys as young as 18 say "bareback only", and I guarantee the porn industry isn't helping.
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    Feb 05, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
    Dallas County, here in Texas, USA, has the highest HIV rate in the State of Texas.

    Increasingly, folks take the view HIV is "survivable" (ultimately, it is not), and that it's not longer contagious (it is), and that they won't be sick from it (they will).

    Logan (flex89) and I, met with Dr. Steven Pounders, Director of The Dallas HIV Committee, and had this whole discussion a few weeks ago.

    If you've ever visited men for men on dallas.craigslist.org, you've seen an appalling display of I,I,I,me,me,me attitudes about sex and barebacking. It goes beyond pathetic.

    Other than tainted transfusions, or a condom failure, there is really no excuse for contracting HIV. With regard to other STDs you sure want to take time to check a person out first.

    Unfortunately, many folks with HIV have almost become militant about some strange self-entitlement to endanger the public safety so that they don't feel "rejected." It's such an egregious display of wanton selfishness it makes me nauseous.

    On a slightly related note, Parkland Hospital, here in Dallas, TX, has the highest illegal birth rate in the U.S. of 76%. That is 76% of all babies born at Parkland are born to illegal immigrants and the taxpayers foot the bill.

    Compassion is one thing, but, folks need a sense of personal and social responsibility, too.

    It's absolutely disgusting what goes on at the bath house, and at craigslist, with a cluster fuck of sex with total strangers. It's both self-indulgent, and irresponsible.
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    Feb 05, 2009 8:34 PM GMT
    yeah. Just not my deal. Fun to watch but I dount I'd be "randy" enough to do it bb with someone unless I was in a VERY committed relationship. Just keeping it real.

    The fact of the matter is that it is very appealing and some people just get caught up in the moment. I can't say I blame them but at the same time I don't really feel sorry for them when unfortunate things happens to these types of people. To each their own.

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    Feb 05, 2009 8:44 PM GMT
    i know bb sells and i know what can happen when barebacking. i am talking about the non-porn european guys. when i talk to the on this site they all seem to bb hince where my general question originated from. i just noticed it more when i was looking at the porn and had a brain blast.

    i am in no way advocating bbing it was just a question i had so there is no need to preach to me about the risk. i wrap up every time and plan to keep doing so

  • zakariahzol

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    Feb 05, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
    Flex say

    "Use a condom every time. Even preseminal fluid, or "precum", can transmit HIV. You should use a condom even for blow jobs: HIV transmission is very low but still possible, and it beats getting something like gonorrhea or chlamydia down your throat."


    Couldnt agree more. Ever since I start bottoming (and loving it) a couple of month ago I insist on condom even for blow jobs. I not taking risk with my life, espcially since I am having a lot of sex with stranger and people that I dont know. Even condom carry some risk of breakage , but I guess I take that risk if I want to have fun. Some guy refuse to wear it for oral but mostly have no problem for bottoming. However some guy insist on giving me oral condomless and in that case I let them let them do it, and that about the only unsafesex risk I prepare to take (unless kissing is consider unsex too}.

    I find safe sex is best. I am less anxious , less nervous, more relax and I have a security in my head that I am having fun and not regreting it latter.
    No condom no sex.

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    Feb 05, 2009 11:59 PM GMT
    its possible they're both already infected already and don't care...
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    Feb 06, 2009 12:07 AM GMT
    rawr saidits possible they're both already infected already and don't care...


    Actually, that's rarely the case. Most of them are just being stupid.
  • dionysus

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    Feb 06, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
    there's usually porns made specifically for barebacking. so they sign release forms that they know they're going to barback and such. for the happiness of the customer. sometimes they're already infected, sometimes not. and then of course the pre-1984 porns are usually always barebacked cuz HIV was not really a "big deal" back then due to lack of knowledge on the subject.