I guess they want to boycott the oscars?

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    Jan 22, 2016 3:41 AM GMT
    A non nominated film that features Will Smith? Boycott? Is he really that upset?
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    Jan 22, 2016 3:55 AM GMT
    Hollywood and Diversity: Oscars were also so white in 1996


    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-oscars-so-white-reaction-htmlstory.html
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    Jan 22, 2016 5:56 AM GMT
    Tyrese Gibson Calls for Chris Rock to Pull Out as Oscar Host: 'The Statement That You Make Is That You Step Down'

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/tyrese-gibson-calls-for-chris-rock-to-pull-out-as-oscar-host-the-statement-that-you-make-is-that-you-step-down/ar-BBotyqd?li=BBnba9J
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jan 22, 2016 7:49 AM GMT
    Isn't it really sort of like watching the Miss Universe pagent? It's just entertaining to watch. It's not like it's really all that important.
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    Jan 22, 2016 10:34 AM GMT
    I wish they could be done with those award speeches. Looks so pretentious and lame.
  • Fireworkz

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    Jan 22, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
    It's about time. I'm on the fence about to boycott or not but there definitely seems to be more inclusiveness. The argument for diversity has been going on for so long.

    Hollywood takes 1 step forward and 1 step back.

    I love how TV is diversifying. Shows like Scandal, The Mindy project, How to get away with Murder and Luther wouldn't have been possible until recently.
  • nicebritguy

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    Jan 22, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
    But does anybody care about the Oscars? Like a bunch of people say a film is good, so all of a sudden it should be? I think people should take their own opinion to be more valuable.
  • venue35

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    Jan 23, 2016 2:03 AM GMT
    Well i have heard that Will Smith gives one hell of a performance in the movie Concussion.
    He just didn't get enough votes and now everyone is complaining that there are no black nominees.
    They should have thought about this earlier now its too late.
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    Jan 25, 2016 12:24 PM GMT
    Surprised Creed wasn't nominated for Best Picture, but Stallone was nominated for Best Supporting Actor?

    95% of the movies nominated this year I've never heard of.. so I'm not in the position to say what deserves to win.

    But I am a bit surprised that Straight Out of Compton, and Creed were both shafted.

    I stopped watching Will Smith movies after Independence Day.
  • HottJoe

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    Jan 25, 2016 4:37 PM GMT
    I boycott the Oscars every year.
  • Fireworkz

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    Jan 26, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI boycott the Oscars every year.


    Lol. Can I have your spare ticket next time?
    I have low resolve.
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    Jan 26, 2016 2:26 PM GMT
    venue35 saidWell i have heard that Will Smith gives one hell of a performance in the movie Concussion.
    He just didn't get enough votes and now everyone is complaining that there are no black nominees.
    They should have thought about this earlier now its too late.

    I think several things are at work here that are being overlooked, with the Academy (Oscars) unfairly getting the full blame. I understand the need to bring inadequate diversity in Hollywood to an end, but boycotting the Oscars is confusing cause and effect.

    The real cause is the film production process, before films are even made for Academy members to vote upon. If no quality diversity-themed films are being produced, why should they be nominated? The real question is why aren't these films being made? One needs to trace this back to the source.

    Is it due to a White male Hollywood power structure? Is it determined by box office sales that show little profit for diversity films? In today's film economy you don't speculate and pour money into low-return films. Is it ultimately the fault of audiences, and what they will and will not pay to see?

    As for Will Smith, who's currently getting a lot of attention on this, I admire his talent and enjoy most of his films. He's a versatile actor that I like seeing. I'm reading that he should have been nominated for Concussion, which I haven't seen.

    But Academy voting has also always been influenced by Hollywood politics. Will Smith wouldn't be the first victim of this, if that's the case. I read he's rubbed some people the wrong way. That has nothing to do with diversity.

    But then White actress Gloria Swanson didn't get an Oscar for playing "Norma Desmond" in Sunset Boulevard. An iconic role remembered over 60 years earlier, when other Oscar winners of her era are forgotten today. The problem appears to be that Director/Writer Billy Wilder created an unsympathetic story about Hollywood itself, revealing an unflattering Hollywood underbelly of ugly madness. Not acceptable in 1950, so it was the subject material that sabotaged Swanson.

    One can also argue that Judy Garland should have gotten the Oscar for A Star Is Born. But it was her own project, a defiant slap in the face to MGM that had fired her a few years earlier. In the waning days of the dictatorial studio system, in retaliation MGM is alleged to have orchestrated its eligible AMPAS members to not vote for Judy.

    So there may be many elements in play here. And the Oscars are not the sole bad guy. But they do make a convenient public target that gets a lot of public attention.
  • venue35

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    Jan 27, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
    94 % of the academy are white.
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    Jan 27, 2016 5:25 PM GMT
    "Joseph Fiennes to play Michael Jackson in 9/11 road trip movie"

    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/27/joseph-fiennes-michael-jackson-911-road-trip-drama

    After 89 years, Hollywood really HAS evolved...

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    Jan 27, 2016 7:16 PM GMT
    What a joke! When someone screams lack of diversity in the academy, what they're really saying is that you don't have enough black people nominated...doesn't matter what any other race thinks.
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    Jan 27, 2016 8:07 PM GMT
    venue35 said
    94 % of the academy are [sic] white.

    And why is that?
  • venue35

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    Jan 28, 2016 5:47 PM GMT
    It's not incorrect spelling i didn't spell any word wrong.

    94 percent of voting members in the academy of arts and sciences are white.
    The president of the academy is a black woman however.
    Because of all the fuss being made they will be making drastic changes this year to the voting members.
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    Jan 29, 2016 5:33 AM GMT
    venue35 saidIt's not incorrect spelling i didn't spell any word wrong.

    94 percent of voting members in the academy of arts and sciences are white.
    The president of the academy is a black woman however.
    Because of all the fuss being made they will be making drastic changes this year to the voting members.


    He was saying you should have used the single verb is not the plural are.

    The usage note below is from the American Heritage dictionary: British English does vary from American English on the use of plurals with nouns representing groups of individuals.
    Percent can take a singular or plural verb, depending on how the quantity being described is viewed. Very often what determines the form of the verb is the noun nearest to it. Thus one might say Eighty percent of the legislators are going to vote against the bill or Eighty percent of the legislature is set to vote the bill down. In the second sentence the group of legislators is considered as a body, not as individuals. When percent is used without a following prepositional phrase, either a singular or plural verb is acceptable.E
  • Fireworkz

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    Jan 29, 2016 11:36 AM GMT
    Erik101 saidWhat a joke! When someone screams lack of diversity in the academy, what they're really saying is that you don't have enough black people nominated...doesn't matter what any other race thinks.


    The black community is just louder but there are Latino and Asian actors who also speak out.
    Salma Hayek has been quite vocal about the lack of roles for Latin women.
    Diversity is more than the number of roles is about stereotyping in the industry where ethnic actors only get to play certain characters.
    Even Italian Americans were stereotyped in the early years. I read a good interview by Stanley Tucci saying roles for Italian Americans used to be Mafia and the bad guys.

    TV has opened up but Hollywood lags.
  • venue35

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    Jan 30, 2016 2:33 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    venue35 saidIt's not incorrect spelling i didn't spell any word wrong.

    94 percent of voting members in the academy of arts and sciences are white.
    The president of the academy is a black woman however.
    Because of all the fuss being made they will be making drastic changes this year to the voting members.


    He was saying you should have used the single verb is not the plural are.

    The usage note below is from the American Heritage dictionary: British English does vary from American English on the use of plurals with nouns representing groups of individuals.
    Percent can take a singular or plural verb, depending on how the quantity being described is viewed. Very often what determines the form of the verb is the noun nearest to it. Thus one might say Eighty percent of the legislators are going to vote against the bill or Eighty percent of the legislature is set to vote the bill down. In the second sentence the group of legislators is considered as a body, not as individuals. When percent is used without a following prepositional phrase, either a singular or plural verb is acceptable.E

    Yes you are right but i use british english more often also when it comes to spelling..i spell favor as favour and behavior..."behaviour". They use british english more in these parts. But for someone who has lived in a non english speaking country for over 20 years i think my english is "quite good".
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    Jan 30, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
    I am sort of an Oscar film fanatic. It's interesting to see what's going on lately. I haven't seen all of the acting nominees this year yet, the only movie I wanna see is the one with Eddie Redmayne in it. But honestly, I don't think they're being racist, it's just luck of the draw. And Will Smith is NOT that great of a serious actor. He's more like a funny actor to me. There were years in the past that the Oscars honored many minorities/Blacks actors. (2002) was a good example, Halle Berry, Denzel W. and Sidney Poitier all won top honor that year. Then Jamie Foxx Won, Forest Whitaker won. I noticed that lately since maybe the year when Marion Coltilard and that one French Actor won for the Artist, the Oscars geared more toward European winners. And a Minority Director in the mix (Ang Lee won for Life of Pi and Alfonso Cuaron won for Gravity recently). That's the thing about the arts, it's just so subjective. Like Jennifer Hudson won for Dreamgirls, she sang the entire movie, not much acting at all. That year 2006, I thought the Japanese actress Rinko Kikuchi should have won for Babel.
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    Jan 30, 2016 2:25 PM GMT
    Fireworkz said
    Erik101 saidWhat a joke! When someone screams lack of diversity in the academy, what they're really saying is that you don't have enough black people nominated...doesn't matter what any other race thinks.


    The black community is just louder but there are Latino and Asian actors who also speak out.
    Salma Hayek has been quite vocal about the lack of roles for Latin women.
    Diversity is more than the number of roles is about stereotyping in the industry where ethnic actors only get to play certain characters.
    Even Italian Americans were stereotyped in the early years. I read a good interview by Stanley Tucci saying roles for Italian Americans used to be Mafia and the bad guys.

    TV has opened up but Hollywood lags.


    ^^ Agreed, I think it's like this because Whites and Blacks people have been here longer in America then Asians and Latinos. Asians and Latinos are recent immigrant groups and they're more lower in numbers. The leading roles are rare for Latins/Asians performers. One example would be Ziyi Zhang, the Chinese actress plays Sayuri in Memoirs of a Geisha. Great movie, btw. But yeah, I mean, Denzel or Will Smith can open a box office weekend. It's sad but true, most people do stereotype you based on your skin color and cultural background when it comes to hiring, dating, mixing up with friends. It's like whenever you see a movie with Asian dudes in it, there has to be some sort of Martial art fighting sequence since maybe most white people think we all know kung fu?? lol
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    Jan 30, 2016 3:10 PM GMT


    The slap heard around the world. What a momentous occasion in American cinema.
  • RSportsguy

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    Jan 30, 2016 9:46 PM GMT
    I saw Creed and Concussion and thought they were really good films. Will Smith was very good as well as Albert Brooks in a supporting role.
    Creed was well done too. Michael B Jordan did a nice job as the lead actor. Would not have been surprised if he was nominated.
    I am not a huge Oscars buff! Every year some movie and actors get overlooked.
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    Jan 30, 2016 9:54 PM GMT
    venue35 said94 % of the academy are white.


    I love seeing someone correctly use a plural verb with a collective noun. <3