Right wing Rush: GOP Insiders Backing Trump, Hate Cruz and Conservatism

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    Jan 22, 2016 6:49 PM GMT

    Its interesting to know who GOP radio head and tea party bubba blowhard is supporting, furthering the implosion icon_rolleyes.gif


    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rush-limbaugh-gop-backing-trump/2016/01/22/id/710414/

    Establishment Republicans are coming out for Donald Trump, but "what it really signifies is their hatred for Ted Cruz," radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh said on his program Thursday.

    "It's the most incredible thing to sit here and watch all of this," Limbaugh said. "They literally despise Ted Cruz. They are beside themselves with hatred for Ted Cruz that goes beyond the rational."

    It is rational, though, "if you understand the establishment's absolute hatred and distaste for conservatism," Limbaugh continued. "These people are out there, some of them are actually saying that they would actively, publicly support and vote for Hillary Clinton over Ted Cruz. Other elected Republicans are saying so, Republican consultants, typical establishment members, even some donors."

    "Bob Dole has come out and said, paraphrasing, 'oh, yeah, Donald Trump, far, far, far more preferable than Ted Cruz," Limbaugh continued, noting that he has a story in his "stack of stuff" from The Hill that "Republican donors are quietly coming around to the idea that Donald Trump could be their party's nominee for president."


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    Jan 22, 2016 7:01 PM GMT

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    Ron Paul Warns Of Neo-Con Takeover Of Tea Party Movement February 10, 2010
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-warns-of-neo-con-takeover-of-tea-party-movement.html


    Congressman Ron Paul warns that the movement his supporters founded nearly three years ago has been infiltrated and overtaken by neo-cons, following the de facto election of Sarah Palin as the leader of the nationwide tea party movement.

    Speaking with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Paul said his message was “somewhat different” to what the tea party groups are now espousing and that his core ideals had been “diluted” since the tea party movement began to grow.

    “The Republican party wants to make sure there’s a neo-con type of influence,” said Paul, adding that Palin’s endorsement of his son’s Senate campaign and platform gave him pause.

    Since it was hijacked by neo-cons, the tea party movement has slowly turned on Congressman Ron Paul.

    As the Dallas Morning News reported on Sunday, Paul has three opponents in the March Republican primary attempting to unseat him, all of whom have ties to the new incarnation of the tea party movement run by neo-cons.





  • tazzari

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    Jan 22, 2016 7:02 PM GMT
    That has to be one of the most self-pitying garbage I've heard in ages. Anyone who disagrees with Limbaugh and his ilk is consumed by hatred, irrational, beside themselves, yadda, yadda, yadda.

    Sounds like Goebbels toward the end of the war going on and on about Jewish-Britixh-Bolshevic conspiracies. it can't be our fault!
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    Jan 22, 2016 7:23 PM GMT

    Neocons ^Fascinating^ icon_twisted.gif



    Neoconservatism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

    Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's domestic and especially foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administrations of George W. Bush and George H W Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1] Prominent neoconservatives in the Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and Paul Bremer. Senior officials Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, while not identifying themselves as neoconservatives, listened closely to neoconservative advisers regarding foreign policy, especially the defense of Israel, the promotion of democracy in the Middle East, and the buildup of American military forces to achieve these goals. The neocons have influence in the Obama White House, and neoconservatism remains a staple in both parties' arsenal.[2][3]

    The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist Left to the camp of American conservatism.[4] Neoconservatives typically advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism.[5][6] Many early neoconservative thinkers were Zionist and published articles in Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee.[7][8] They spoke out against the New Left, and in that way helped define the movement.[9][10] C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (1899–1973),[11] though in doing so they may draw upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse.

    Friction with moderate conservatives[edit]

    Many moderate conservatives oppose neoconservative policies and have sharply negative views on it. For example, Stefan Halper and Jonathan Clarke (a libertarian based at Cato), in their 2004 book on neoconservatism, America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order,[95] characterized the neoconservatives, at that time, as uniting:

    … around three common themes: 1.A belief deriving from religious conviction that the human condition is defined as a choice between good and evil and that the true measure of political character is to be found in the willingness by the former (themselves) to confront the latter.
    2.An assertion that the fundamental determinant of the relationship between states rests on military power and the willingness to use it.
    3.A primary focus on the Middle East and global Islam as the principal theater for American overseas interests.

    In putting these themes into practice, neo-conservatives:
    1.Analyze international issues in black-and-white, absolute moral categories. They are fortified by a conviction that they alone hold the moral high ground and argue that disagreement is tantamount to defeatism.
    2.Focus on the "unipolar" power of the United States, seeing the use of military force as the first, not the last, option of foreign policy. They repudiate the "lessons of Vietnam," which they interpret as undermining American will toward the use of force, and embrace the "lessons of Munich," interpreted as establishing the virtues of preemptive military action.
    3.Disdain conventional diplomatic agencies such as the State Department and conventional country-specific, realist, and pragmatic, analysis. They are hostile toward nonmilitary multilateral institutions and instinctively antagonistic toward international treaties and agreements. "Global unilateralism" is their watchword. They are fortified by international criticism, believing that it confirms American virtue.
    4.Look to the Reagan administration as the exemplar of all these virtues and seek to establish their version of Reagan's legacy as the Republican and national orthodoxy

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    Jan 22, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    tazzari saidThat has to be one of the most self-pitying garbage I've heard in ages. Anyone who disagrees with Limbaugh and his ilk is consumed by hatred, irrational, beside themselves, yadda, yadda, yadda.

    Sounds like Goebbels toward the end of the war going on and on about Jewish-Britixh-Bolshevic conspiracies. it can't be our fault!




    Blowhard said: "If you understand the establishment's absolute hatred and distaste for conservatism"

    Who and or which side of the GOP is fat man referring? As above explanation between the 'moderate conservatism versus neocon conservatism'?, both sides seem to have the same fucked up ideals, Socialized Religion and War above all else. Texass Ron Paul, the evil creator of the GOP split, has indicated years ago that neocon conservatism infiltrated his tea party movement (I suppose these were the people that support Socialized Religion and War above all else such as the Bush1Bush2/Cheney clansmen and now the Trump/Palin frog team). Where does this leave the tea party minus some of the neocons and the moderate establishment conservatives who really have no say?

    Palin crossing neocon party lines is greatly disturbing the GOP and probably will accelerate its already huge crack and demise. GOP voters maybe so confused come Nov 2016 election, that most just stay home and let the democrats win.

    On the other hand, if American voters are that stupid to elect the neocon invasion to run our country, I am afraid I am going to do as Whoopi has already indicated and leave our country. Trump, Palin, Bush and Cheney will have us at WWIII, defcon 5 nuclear, within no time

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/20/whoopi-threatens-to-leave-u-s-over-trump-you-cant-blame-immigrants-for-countrys-problems/


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    Jan 22, 2016 8:30 PM GMT

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    GOP drops National Review from debate sponsorship over Trump attack
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/01/22/donald-trump-national-review-houston-feb-25-debate/79166250/

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  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 22, 2016 10:36 PM GMT
    ELNathB said
    Its interesting to know who GOP radio head and tea party bubba blowhard is supporting, furthering the implosion icon_rolleyes.gif


    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rush-limbaugh-gop-backing-trump/2016/01/22/id/710414/

    Establishment Republicans are coming out for Donald Trump, but "what it really signifies is their hatred for Ted Cruz," radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh said on his program Thursday.

    "It's the most incredible thing to sit here and watch all of this," Limbaugh said. "They literally despise Ted Cruz. They are beside themselves with hatred for Ted Cruz that goes beyond the rational."

    It is rational, though, "if you understand the establishment's absolute hatred and distaste for conservatism," Limbaugh continued. "These people are out there, some of them are actually saying that they would actively, publicly support and vote for Hillary Clinton over Ted Cruz. Other elected Republicans are saying so, Republican consultants, typical establishment members, even some donors."

    "Bob Dole has come out and said, paraphrasing, 'oh, yeah, Donald Trump, far, far, far more preferable than Ted Cruz," Limbaugh continued, noting that he has a story in his "stack of stuff" from The Hill that "Republican donors are quietly coming around to the idea that Donald Trump could be their party's nominee for president."


    Rush Limbaugh hates Ted Cruz and all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs. Holy shit, wonders never ceaseicon_lol.gificon_exclaim.gif
  • Hypertrophile

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    Jan 23, 2016 2:10 AM GMT
    This has been a very interesting last couple of days. The bona fides of the special edition of National Review slamming Trump, i.e. signatories such as Glen Beck and Bill Kristol, probably works in his favor, but now with the Palin and Limbaugh endorsements, he looks like he's still not taking his candidacy very seriously.

    The thing is, if it had to be someone from the GOP field winning in November, I'd have to pick Trump since Kasich is far too reasonable to be electable. At least with Trump, we're not stuck with another ideologue.
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    Jan 23, 2016 2:14 AM GMT
    I am a nobody and I like Trump and find it all fascinating.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 23, 2016 3:37 PM GMT
    Hypertrophile saidThis has been a very interesting last couple of days. The bona fides of the special edition of National Review slamming Trump, i.e. signatories such as Glen Beck and Bill Kristol, probably works in his favor, but now with the Palin and Limbaugh endorsements, he looks like he's still not taking his candidacy very seriously.

    The thing is, if it had to be someone from the GOP field winning in November, I'd have to pick Trump since Kasich is far too reasonable to be electable. At least with Trump, we're not stuck with another ideologue.
    I think that Ohio Governor Kasich is very electable and he would be a very good GOP candidate. I could easily vote for him. He would focus on the issues most important to Americans namely economic and financial issues rather than waste time and tax money on idiotic right wing cultural wars.
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    Jan 23, 2016 5:13 PM GMT
    Is Donald Trump causing a Republican civil war?

    Donald Trump's persistent lead in opinion polls is creating a growing divide within the ranks of the Republican Party that threatens to turn into civil war.

    In just the past few days conservatives seem to be splitting into two camps - those who view Mr Trump as an existential threat to their ideological movement and others who seek to shape his views and harness the wave of support he has generated into greater political power.

    What happens if Mr Trump ends up their party's nominee and, instead of making nice with those who once attempted to thwart his rise, he continues blazing his own path - right through the Republican Party?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35385854