Nearly 3 Out of 4 LGBT Jamaicans Considered Migration

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    Jan 23, 2016 5:55 AM GMT
    A new study from J-FLAG, an LGBT advocacy organization in Jamaica, found that nearly 75 percent of queer respondents considered emigrating from Jamaica, a nation notorious for its state-sanctioned homophobia and transphobia.

    The survey, called "The Developmental Cost of Homophobia: The Case of Jamaica," queried 316 LGBT Jamaicans, and 74.4 reported they have considered a new life outside the Caribbean nation. Men, urban dwellers, and working individuals were more likely to have weighed leaving.

    Source: http://www.advocate.com/world/2016/1/22/nearly-3-out-4-lgbt-jamaicans-considered-migration
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    Jan 23, 2016 6:29 AM GMT
    Must be all the gays there are going; Jamaica-me-crazy!
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    Jan 23, 2016 6:57 AM GMT
    All but one Jamaican I've known in my life, I've known many, tel me its a very homophobic place that is dangerous for out men and transexuals. All of of my Jamaican friends have told me not to go. Having known many Jamaicans in Florida its very hard for them to come out due to their family.
  • eM_Jay

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    Jan 23, 2016 7:27 AM GMT
    My former bf was half-Jamaican and when we did go to visit once we got to meet a few guys around Kingston who confirmed this for us. They warned that if were too open in Jamaica we might get in life-threatening situations (even as tourists). I've been through many places like that but i gotta say Jamaica had to be one of the worst in its treatment of LGBT people. I still loved my time there but yeah, i see why most LGBT would wanna leave.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 23, 2016 4:25 PM GMT
    I don't give a shit how warm its climate is or what it has to offer in terms of scenery, history, and amenities. Until Jamaica stops being so hateful towards its gay, lesbian, and bisexual citizens I have absolutely no desire to visit that island country. They can shove iticon_exclaim.gif
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    Jan 23, 2016 4:39 PM GMT
    Jamaica is a backward society. OMG, i feel bad for any LGBT person having to survive there. Whatta nightmare.

    Between the whole debacle with that drug dealer "dudus" or whatever his name was in Tivoli gardens to the treatment of their LGBT people to the almost embrace of lawlessness.... There are few places worse for LGBT people than Jamaica.
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    Jan 23, 2016 5:08 PM GMT
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    Horrible to live where you are not wanted whether at the level of country as in the OP, of family as in born to homophobes anywhere, or even of ageing, because here in the USA, many healthcare workers, nursing staff, home aides, are from the Caribbean.

    I just googled quickly for some stats of what I know to be true from experience and found this:

    http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/foreign-born-health-care-workers-united-states
    ...the number of foreign-born health care workers has also been on the rise, increasing from 1.5 million to 1.8 million between 2006 and 2010...

    ...Today, immigrants make up a sizeable proportion of the U.S. health care workforce. In 2010, the foreign born accounted for 16 percent of all civilians employed in health care occupations in the United States. In some health care professions, this share was larger...

    Nearly one-third of foreign-born women employed in health care occupations in 2010 worked as nursing, psychiatric, or home health aides.
    In 2010, foreign-born women employed in health care occupations were most likely to work as nursing, psychiatric, or home health aides (32 percent) and as registered nurses (26 percent).

    SP_FIG1_FOREIGNBORNHEALTHCAREWORKERS.PNG


    So having Caribbean homophobia imported into USA healthcare presents a real problem for LGBT who more often than not will have no children to watch after them even if nursing home care is required later in life. You'd wind up with no one checking on you. Even if you still had friends who weren't dead yet or a nephew who visited a few times a year, you could be abused between visits.

    What a nightmare to have lived your life fighting oppression, to have gained civil rights, and then to risk ending life subjected to imported homophobia? Fuck that. I'd rather the satisfaction of killing myself.

    (You might also notice that Republicans don't complain about homophobic Caribbean immigration, just Muslim immigration. Seems Muslims don't do windows.)
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    Jan 23, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
    ^^^ You're not the only one who'd be satisfied.
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    Jan 23, 2016 5:51 PM GMT
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    Jan 23, 2016 6:47 PM GMT
    Yet we import these cultures en masse....
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    Jan 23, 2016 6:49 PM GMT
    theantijock saidtheantijock%20engage%20stalker%20reducti

    Horrible to live where you are not wanted whether at the level of country as in the OP, of family as in born to homophobes anywhere, or even of ageing, because here in the USA, many healthcare workers, nursing staff, home aides, are from the Caribbean.

    I just googled quickly for some stats of what I know to be true from experience and found this:

    http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/foreign-born-health-care-workers-united-states
    ...the number of foreign-born health care workers has also been on the rise, increasing from 1.5 million to 1.8 million between 2006 and 2010...

    ...Today, immigrants make up a sizeable proportion of the U.S. health care workforce. In 2010, the foreign born accounted for 16 percent of all civilians employed in health care occupations in the United States. In some health care professions, this share was larger...

    Nearly one-third of foreign-born women employed in health care occupations in 2010 worked as nursing, psychiatric, or home health aides.
    In 2010, foreign-born women employed in health care occupations were most likely to work as nursing, psychiatric, or home health aides (32 percent) and as registered nurses (26 percent).

    SP_FIG1_FOREIGNBORNHEALTHCAREWORKERS.PNG


    So having Caribbean homophobia imported into USA healthcare presents a real problem for LGBT who more often than not will have no children to watch after them even if nursing home care is required later in life. You'd wind up with no one checking on you. Even if you still had friends who weren't dead yet or a nephew who visited a few times a year, you could be abused between visits.

    What a nightmare to have lived your life fighting oppression, to have gained civil rights, and then to risk ending life subjected to imported homophobia? Fuck that. I'd rather the satisfaction of killing myself.

    (You might also notice that Republicans don't complain about homophobic Caribbean immigration, just Muslim immigration. Seems Muslims don't do windows.)


    You don't need to worry about imported homophobia from the Caribbean. For 2 reasons.

    Firstly Jamaican homophobia extends mainly to black people and their own community. Jamaican's are less concerned about gay white people as they consider homosexuality a white thing and it's what white people do. They can leave it at work and it's not in their family so it's not a real concern.

    Secondly Jamaicans outside of Jamaica tend to mellow out. There are many gay people of Jamaican decent in the UK and their parents come to terms with their homosexuality or not as anyone else. It's more about up bringing. It would be no worse than the fundamental christian groups that you hear about in the USA. In fact Jamaicans would never treat their children as bad as those christian fundamentalists.


    I think the same goes for most cultures with conservative values in Asia, Africa and the Caribbean. They are more concerned with homosexuality in their own communities than outside it and tend to mellow out once they interact with the wider community.

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    Jan 24, 2016 1:03 AM GMT
    based on people I have met dont pretty much ALL jamaicans want to get the hell out?
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    Jan 24, 2016 2:45 AM GMT
    Apparition saidbased on people I have met dont pretty much ALL jamaicans want to get the hell out?


    No, Jamaicans are very proud of there culture and many regularly go back to see family.
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    Jan 24, 2016 4:38 AM GMT
    Fireworkz said
    theantijock said
    Firstly Jamaican homophobia extends mainly to black people and their own community. Jamaican's are less concerned about gay white people as they consider homosexuality a white thing and it's what white people do. They can leave it at work and it's not in their family so it's not a real concern.

    Secondly Jamaicans outside of Jamaica tend to mellow out. There are many gay people of Jamaican decent in the UK and their parents come to terms with their homosexuality or not as anyone else. It's more about up bringing. It would be no worse than the fundamental christian groups that you hear about in the USA. In fact Jamaicans would never treat their children as bad as those christian fundamentalists.


    I think the same goes for most cultures with conservative values in Asia, Africa and the Caribbean. They are more concerned with homosexuality in their own communities than outside it and tend to mellow out once they interact with the wider community.[



    This is really true of many Indian families as well.
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    Jan 30, 2016 1:24 PM GMT
    way back when rock was dirt the British imperial government unleashed a sophisticated written legal code in its colonies. It introduced victorian conventions of the British Empire that were sketchy at best into a previous possibly progressive culture having few written laws.

    The question is now why are sodomy laws still on the books?

    Areas of N America seem to have the same affliction. Example; the SE states have been historically the last to adopt civil rights. Up until the federal government sends in troops.