Antigay Republican Lawmaker Caught Cruising Grindr

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    Jan 28, 2016 11:40 PM GMT
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    I couldn't find the Oh How Typical Section so I've posted this item to News.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/1/28/antigay-republican-lawmaker-caught-cruising-grindr
    Somewhere in Southwestern Virginia lives a Republican lawmaker with a distinctively anti-LGBT voting record and a clean-shaven torso...


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  • jeepguySD

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    Jan 29, 2016 2:16 PM GMT
    The type of hypocrisy embodied by this Virginia assembly member is all too familiar. I am not one to out anybody, and if he feels that he must be in the closet, then that's his personal choice, but to harm the entire gay community because he is ashamed of his own sexuality is despicable.
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    Jan 29, 2016 2:21 PM GMT
    Details? News link?
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    Jan 29, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
    Here ya go, AD!

    http://www.gayrva.com/featured/an-open-letter-to-the-republican-house-member-we-saw-on-grindr-this-weekend/

    GayRVA (LGBT outlet for Southwest Virginia, think Lynchburg and Roanoke area)I know you’re obviously not out at work here at the General Assembly, but I have to ask why you would vote against a law which would have protected LGBTQ (Virginians) for being fired for who they love.

    It’s not often that these bills offering these kinds of protections make it to a full house vote, but you managed to take the opportunity to put your own people down. Self-hatred is not cute, by the way and is thoroughly an unattractive character or personality trait.

    Speaking of self loathing behaviors, why did you vote against the appointment of an openly gay Judge? That vote was less-than-subtle on why and how it was targeted – with several conservative Senate members walking out rather than voting him in – but again, you sat there quietly and let the broader anti-gay sentiment at the GA take the driver’s seat.

    “Outing” someone is not something to be taken lightly and often comes off as tacky or vengeful. The legislator we’re addressing with this letter has a voting record which would make an openly gay man shake their head in disgust, but he hasn’t been specifically vocal on LGBTQ issues. This is one of the reasons we’re choosing to leave them anonymous, however we hope this message reaches their desk and they’ll consider the words below if and when they have a chance to vote on LGBTQ related bills in the future.


    The fine folks over at JMG quickly sleuthed it out, in my opinion.

    http://www.joemygod.com/2016/01/27/virginia-anti-gay-lawmaker-busted-on-grindr-local-paper-declines-to-name-him-dan-savage-objects/

    I won't try to "out" him here, either, since I didn't bring up the issue. But the legislator's reaction to questioning (scrubbing everything and hunkering down) leaves it pretty clear in my book.

    I'm not wild about the LGBT outlet keeping his name guarded following the accusations they reported, and neither is Dan Savage.

    http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2016/01/27/23485393/who-is-this-closeted-gay-republican-with-the-anti-gay-voting-record-a-toned-twinkish-torso-and-an-active-grindr-account

    Dan Savage (The Stranger Slog)
    Kutner and his editors at GAYRVA declined to out this legislator despite his anti-LGBT voting record because “he hasn’t been specifically vocal on LGBTQ issues.”

    I disagree: this legislator’s votes against workplace protections for LGBT people, adoption rights for same-sex couples, and the judicial appointment of a qualified out gay man speak loudly of his hypocrisy and the the particular kind of damage done when closeted conservatives abuse their political power to protect their closets. We’ve heard this song about a thousand times before…


    As I've noted elsewhere, your desire to hold public office, and your voting record once you're there, makes you "specifically vocal."

    Aside: if you can't see the OP's link from the Advocate, it's here:

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/1/28/antigay-republican-lawmaker-caught-cruising-grindr
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    Jan 29, 2016 5:09 PM GMT
    jeepguySD saidThe type of hypocrisy embodied by this Virginia assembly member is all too familiar. I am not one to out anybody, and if he feels that he must be in the closet, then that's his personal choice, but to harm the entire gay community because he is ashamed of his own sexuality is despicable.


    That's pretty much the only justification I consider for outing. Even in protecting relationships I give leeway which for me is difficult. I currently have that situation with a friend who came out late in life and how I handle it is that I do not accept the hospitality of his wife. I can't befriend her while I'm the keeper of his closet. And he's a friend since we were kids so though I don't like people cheating, he's grandfathered in. So I could only think to handle that by compartmentalizing it.

    He happens to be otherwise an extremely nice guy who's found himself in this situation that a closet can create. Were he political and used that against the gay, then outing would take precedence over friendship.
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    Jan 29, 2016 6:34 PM GMT
    So who is the bastard? Inquiring minds want to know. If he votes against the interests of gays, he damn well deserves to be outed - and then he can be turned out of office.
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    Jan 29, 2016 6:39 PM GMT
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    jeepguySD saidThe type of hypocrisy embodied by this Virginia assembly member is all too familiar. I am not one to out anybody, and if he feels that he must be in the closet, then that's his personal choice, but to harm the entire gay community because he is ashamed of his own sexuality is despicable.


    That's pretty much the only justification I consider for outing. Even in protecting relationships I give leeway which for me is difficult. I currently have that situation with a friend who came out late in life and how I handle it is that I do not accept the hospitality of his wife. I can't befriend her while I'm the keeper of his closet. And he's a friend since we were kids so though I don't like people cheating, he's grandfathered in. So I could only think to handle that by compartmentalizing it.

    He happens to be otherwise an extremely nice guy who's found himself in this situation that a closet can create. Were he political and used that against the gay, then outing would take precedence over friendship.

    Wow. What a self-righteous, hypocritical jerk. Right down there with the turd who's the subject of this thread. It's apparent to anyone who reads your posts that giving leeway is not just difficult but impossible for you; and just who appointed you "keeper of the closet," BTW? Your approach to the wife makes sense only in that it reveals another aspect of your overriding anger and hostility, displayed daily on these pages. So "grandfather" and "compartmentalize" as you will; you're nothing more than an unhappy, unstable, deeply troubled person whom no one in their right mind would want as a "friend."
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    Jan 29, 2016 6:50 PM GMT
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    I couldn't find the Oh How Typical Section so I've posted this item to News.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/1/28/antigay-republican-lawmaker-caught-cruising-grindr
    Somewhere in Southwestern Virginia lives a Republican lawmaker with a distinctively anti-LGBT voting record and a clean-shaven torso...


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    I am undecided about whether he should be outed. At least he has not spoken out against equal treatment for LGBT persons; he has simply voted against such protections. If he had actually spoken out against such protections then I would favor outing him. However, he should be encouraged to vote in favor of such protections. He could do that without outing himself.

    We do not know what conflicts he may be experiencing. He may be very guilt-ridden; that could explain his voting record.
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    Jan 29, 2016 6:57 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidtheantijock%20engage%20stalker%20reducti

    I couldn't find the Oh How Typical Section so I've posted this item to News.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/1/28/antigay-republican-lawmaker-caught-cruising-grindr
    Somewhere in Southwestern Virginia lives a Republican lawmaker with a distinctively anti-LGBT voting record and a clean-shaven torso...


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    I am undecided about whether he should be outed. At least he has not spoken out against equal treatment for LGBT persons; he has simply voted against such protections. If he had actually spoken out against such protections then I would favor outing him. However, he should be encouraged to vote in favor of such protections. He could do that without outing himself.

    We do not know what conflicts he may be experiencing. He may be very guilt-ridden; that could explain his voting record.


    Why should anyone care whether the bastard is "guilt-ridden"? He made his bed by getting into politics, and now he ought to lie in it. He can secretly vote against gay interests only because he is invisible. IF he were black, could he vote against important issues in the state to blacks? NO, because one can't be "in the closet" about one's appearance. Time for him to be outed, and get out of politics and find a respectable way to make a living.
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    Jan 29, 2016 7:07 PM GMT
    I see a thread like this on RJ at least once a year.
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    Jan 29, 2016 7:18 PM GMT
    ricky1987 saidI see a thread like this on RJ at least once a year.

    That's because at least once a year, some conservative republican male politician (the anti-gay party in the USA) get's caught being gay or doing something terrible and gay (like having sex with a guy in a public men's room.)
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    Jan 29, 2016 7:47 PM GMT
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    jeepguySD saidThe type of hypocrisy embodied by this Virginia assembly member is all too familiar. I am not one to out anybody, and if he feels that he must be in the closet, then that's his personal choice, but to harm the entire gay community because he is ashamed of his own sexuality is despicable.


    That's pretty much the only justification I consider for outing. Even in protecting relationships I give leeway which for me is difficult. I currently have that situation with a friend who came out late in life and how I handle it is that I do not accept the hospitality of his wife. I can't befriend her while I'm the keeper of his closet. And he's a friend since we were kids so though I don't like people cheating, he's grandfathered in. So I could only think to handle that by compartmentalizing it.

    He happens to be otherwise an extremely nice guy who's found himself in this situation that a closet can create. Were he political and used that against the gay, then outing would take precedence over friendship.

    Wow. What a self-righteous, hypocritical jerk. Right down there with the turd who's the subject of this thread. It's apparent to anyone who reads your posts that giving leeway is not just difficult but impossible for you; and just who appointed you "keeper of the closet," BTW? Your approach to the wife makes sense only in that it reveals another aspect of your overriding anger and hostility, displayed daily on these pages. So "grandfather" and "compartmentalize" as you will; you're nothing more than an unhappy, unstable, deeply troubled person whom no one in their right mind would want as a "friend."


    You get more stupid with every post.

    I've still got most of my friends from not just high school, not just grade school, but the playground. In fact just yesterday one friend called for another friend's number because yet another friend's brother just died. So, while you might be shit, you don't know shit. It's obvious to anyone but you that you don't know yourself. And I suspect you never will. Sad.

    My dear friend appointed me the keeper of his closet, you stupid fuck. I've explained to him all my feelings and he's good with that. Of all our friends, and we've many, and he knows how well they accept me, I'm the only one he's confided in, knowing he can trust me with his closet. No one else in his life knows. No one. He's currently planning a trip across country to spend a few days with me to help him think things out, all at his suggestion. He know's he's welcomed here any time for as long as he likes. You? I'd turn the hose on ya. My friends are fantastic people. You are garbage. Calling you garbage does not make me an angry or unhappy person, you pool turd you.

    So on a happier note: here's MSG, the early years, back when he used to be cute and pudgy:
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    theantijock saidtheantijock%20engage%20stalker%20reducti

    I couldn't find the Oh How Typical Section so I've posted this item to News.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/1/28/antigay-republican-lawmaker-caught-cruising-grindr
    Somewhere in Southwestern Virginia lives a Republican lawmaker with a distinctively anti-LGBT voting record and a clean-shaven torso...


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    I am undecided about whether he should be outed. At least he has not spoken out against equal treatment for LGBT persons; he has simply voted against such protections. If he had actually spoken out against such protections then I would favor outing him. However, he should be encouraged to vote in favor of such protections. He could do that without outing himself.

    We do not know what conflicts he may be experiencing. He may be very guilt-ridden; that could explain his voting record.


    I'm with Dayumm on this, that, as he said:
    As I've noted elsewhere, your desire to hold public office, and your voting record once you're there, makes you "specifically vocal."


    Are there as you suggest mitigating circumstances. Like what, threats of extortion? Maybe so--we don't know that--but even then ya step down. A good person would sacrifice himself, not sacrifice us.
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    Jan 29, 2016 8:32 PM GMT
    Puppenjunge saidSo who is the bastard? Inquiring minds want to know. If he votes against the interests of gays, he damn well deserves to be outed - and then he can be turned out of office.


    Seriously.
    Why bother with an article like this if you aren't going to reveal the most important part.
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    Jan 29, 2016 8:46 PM GMT
    Will Morefield is a possibility.
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    Israel O'Quinn is the other...most likely Will.
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    theantijock said
    jeepguySD saidThe type of hypocrisy embodied by this Virginia assembly member is all too familiar. I am not one to out anybody, and if he feels that he must be in the closet, then that's his personal choice, but to harm the entire gay community because he is ashamed of his own sexuality is despicable.


    That's pretty much the only justification I consider for outing. Even in protecting relationships I give leeway which for me is difficult. I currently have that situation with a friend who came out late in life and how I handle it is that I do not accept the hospitality of his wife. I can't befriend her while I'm the keeper of his closet. And he's a friend since we were kids so though I don't like people cheating, he's grandfathered in. So I could only think to handle that by compartmentalizing it.

    He happens to be otherwise an extremely nice guy who's found himself in this situation that a closet can create. Were he political and used that against the gay, then outing would take precedence over friendship.

    Wow. What a self-righteous, hypocritical jerk. Right down there with the turd who's the subject of this thread. It's apparent to anyone who reads your posts that giving leeway is not just difficult but impossible for you; and just who appointed you "keeper of the closet," BTW? Your approach to the wife makes sense only in that it reveals another aspect of your overriding anger and hostility, displayed daily on these pages. So "grandfather" and "compartmentalize" as you will; you're nothing more than an unhappy, unstable, deeply troubled person whom no one in their right mind would want as a "friend."



    He's not being a hypocrite. When a "friend" keeps a secret like this all his friends become a "keeper of the closet", aiding and abetting that lie. They all become complicit, the wife more than any one! Why would a wife accept it? Money? Power? Standing? They all become liars. I couldn't and wouldn't. If he's just a citizen I'd respect his privacy, but if he was a Republican politician with POWER, voting against gays? No, there's no hiding from that. I wouldn't want HIM as a friend.

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    Jan 29, 2016 10:17 PM GMT
    Some notes from the JMG folks that did their digging into this a couple days ago, now that the cat is out of the proverbial bag around here:

    Random JMG Commenters (2 days ago)(1) "He evidently shaved his body for his Grindr pic."

    (2) "Looks like she's patrolling (Facebook) comments. They're disappearing quicker than you can hit send."

    (3) "(His) FB page appears to be unavailable now."

    (4a) "...it's open to visitor comments and postings. Maybe someone is deleting them all?"
    (4b) "in seconds."

    (5) "Mine disappeared IMMEDIATELY and then....blocked!"

    (6) "Comments have all been deleted and commenting is closed!"

    (7) "FWIW I just checked the (Wikipedia) article history. There was never a separate "personal life" section to remove; there was always only ever an introduction followed directly by the voting results tables, and people have just been editwarring over putting this directly into the introduction."

    (8 ) "Yes, he was deleting comments as they were being posted, and now he's closed commenting for the entire page. Boys...I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER."
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    Jan 30, 2016 12:03 AM GMT
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    Not really my thing... w/e.
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    Jan 30, 2016 12:25 AM GMT
    robbaker saidand you gaydads still love fucking around with them teens as if it were normal


    Wtf are you talking about
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    Sincityfan said526f22e81e259.image.jpg
    Not really my thing... w/e.

    He should grow his hair longer, and clear up that blemish under his lower right lip. The teeth and eyes are OK. Steht.
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    MGINSD said
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    Not really my thing... w/e.

    He should grow his hair longer, and clear up that blemish under his lower right lip. The teeth and eyes are OK. Steht.

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    Jan 30, 2016 8:28 AM GMT
    Sincityfan saidWill Morefield is a possibility.
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    Israel O'Quinn is the other...most likely Will.




    could be...


    http://instinctmagazine.com/post/reporter-pens-open-letter-anti-gay-republican-lawmaker-he-saw-grindr
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    Jan 30, 2016 5:57 PM GMT
    Penning an "open letter" and expecting a sudden transformation from an anti-gay Republican bigot? Total waste of time. And so naive.
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    KissTheSky saidPenning an "open letter" and expecting a sudden transformation from an anti-gay Republican bigot? Total waste of time. And so naive.

    Well, if this guy gets positively ID-ed, if he hasn't already, his remedy is simple. He confesses his "sin", blames it on the temptation & entrapment of evil gays, asks for forgiveness, and stays in office. Even gets reelected. That's the usual pattern.
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    Oh, you phony piece of shit, you.