Iowa Caucus Thread

  • Unnamed6

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    Jan 31, 2016 12:25 AM GMT
    I have my own predictions on what's going to happen Monday night, and can probably comment on this, as I'm a political junkie who never actually has commented on politics on RJ...lol. Anyways, the Des Moines Register just released their poll numbers 15 minutes ago. Ann Selzer is the one that does the poll and her poll is seen as the most reliable poll going into Iowa. She was the one who anticipated Obama's Iowa victory in 2008 when many people had their doubts then. A lot of big name journalists were at the press conference when the poll was finally announced. The poll has Bernie very close to Clinton, enough that he has a fair chance of winning it.

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    Jan 31, 2016 12:29 AM GMT
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    Jan 31, 2016 12:33 AM GMT
    So many Republican candidates.

    Who's your worst nightmare among the Republicans? Mine is Fiorina.
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    Jan 31, 2016 12:35 AM GMT
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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 31, 2016 2:04 AM GMT
    Should be interesting to watch. Iowa usually delivers a surprise and I kind of suspect this year will be no different.
  • tj85016

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    Jan 31, 2016 5:52 AM GMT
    the Iowa "Caucus" is just a crooked money/influence scam

    nobody gives a rat's ass about Iowa

  • Unnamed6

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    Jan 31, 2016 7:02 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidSo many Republican candidates.

    Who's your worst nightmare among the Republicans? Mine is Fiorina.


    Actually it's Donald Trump. When asked about the Nuclear Triad in a December debate he had no idea what he was talking about. I don't have a personal problem with Trump's name calling, but as Rand Paul pointed out months before that debate, at another debate, would you want someone who name calls, acts immature, and has as large as an ego as Donald Trump be responsible for the US nuclear arsenal?
  • Unnamed6

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    Jan 31, 2016 7:30 AM GMT
    From Donald Trump's spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, "What good does it do if you have a Nuclear Triad if you’re afraid to use it?". He did not repudiate her for this statement, and I think there's a good chance that she's repeating verbatim what The Donald told her. I personally don't think it's much of a problem if we're not eager to use nuclear weapons, but maybe I'm alone in this...



    (Which Metta apparently already referenced)
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 31, 2016 1:53 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidthe Iowa "Caucus" is just a crooked money/influence scam

    nobody gives a rat's ass about Iowa



    It's mostly just a symbolic start to the Primary voting season, and nothing more. They usually pic someone who doesn't win the election. I believe the last time they picked a winner was GW Bush in 2000
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 31, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
    Unnamed6 saidwould you want someone who name calls, acts immature, and has as large as an ego as Donald Trump be responsible for the US nuclear arsenal?


    First off, there isn't a candidate out there running for POTUS who doesn't have a large ego. Secondly, most people are smart enough to understand that campaigning Trump will not at all be the same temperament as a governing President Trump. He didn't become a world-class negotiator and businessman by being an idiot. I am quite confident that Trump's vision of "Making America Great Again" would include resisting any use of nuclear weapons across the globe and protecting that nuclear arsenal at all costs.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 31, 2016 2:29 PM GMT
    It will be an interesting democratic evening, I'd prefer Hillary wins, but should the good Iowa democrats select Bernie, I think it should be embraced. Anything in this realm is preferable to the other side.
  • Unnamed6

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    Jan 31, 2016 8:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidthe Iowa "Caucus" is just a crooked money/influence scam

    nobody gives a rat's ass about Iowa



    The Iowa Caucuses played king maker for Jimmy Carter and Barack Hussein Obama (though it's track record for selecting the eventual Republican nominee is more lukewarm), and if you want to know the origin of obesity in America (high fructose corn syrup) and why gasoline is more expensive in the US than it should be (ethanol), just looking at how much politicians have to pander to Iowan corn growers would clearly indicate just how important this state is.
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    Jan 31, 2016 9:26 PM GMT
    Unnamed6 saidFrom Donald Trump's spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, "What good does it do if you have a Nuclear Triad if you’re afraid to use it?".

    Fear, aka saber rattling, is an extremely effective tactic in diplomacy. Ronald Reagan was very good at it.
  • Unnamed6

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    Feb 01, 2016 1:58 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidIt will be an interesting democratic evening, I'd prefer Hillary wins, but should the good Iowa democrats select Bernie, I think it should be embraced. Anything in this realm is preferable to the other side.


    If she doesn't win Iowa tomorrow, her electoral prospects would be facing an uphill battle until next month on March 1st, Super Tuesday. Bernie is slated to win in New Hampshire by a landslide and can win Nevada, making South Carolina, if she loses Iowa, her only win going into Super Tuesday. It could be 2008 Hilary vs Obama again. All the partisan bickering that goes on RJ should consider the implications of Iowa, thus it's my only thread created after two and a half years since my last time. Iowa simply decides so much.
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    Feb 01, 2016 7:02 AM GMT


    The 'caucus' is certainly a Norma Rae moment icon_confused.gif




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    Feb 01, 2016 10:16 PM GMT
    I have never seen this much attention on what ever goes on in Iowa and these caucuses, especially from media. If I remember throughout my young adult life, the public and media interest in the presidential campaigns starts well past this single state of Iowa and the union type voting that goes on there.

    I suppose Iowa is the "official kick off" of the presidential election cycle. Not even Obama's second term (2012) did this Iowa voting system get any attention. Usually, the 'attention' is after the Iowa results are posted, certainly not as the voting is taking place,
    this is an American first

    This is going to be very strange. Why Iowa? Why not caucus in NY, IL or CA to kick off the election? These places have much more of a diverse population than just whiter than white Iowa, the state only gets 5 electoral votes icon_confused.gif

  • Unnamed6

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    Feb 02, 2016 2:45 AM GMT
    Glad I didn't make predictions for the Republican race, would have been very wrong, lol... I thought cell phone users were so hard to contact this time around as to avoid polling them, I guess they had been polled after all.

    Anyways Clinton and Bernie neck and neck at 50.8% and 48.7% respectively with almost two thirds reporting. Republican race has Cruz at 29%, Trump at 25.3% and Rubio at 21%, Carson at 9.7%, Paul at 4.4%.
  • Unnamed6

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    Feb 02, 2016 2:52 AM GMT
    One thing that may be occurring is that Democrats are actually voting in the Republican caucuses.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 02, 2016 5:49 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShould be interesting to watch. Iowa usually delivers a surprise and I kind of suspect this year will be no different.



    No surprise.
    Iowa usually picks losers, like Huckabee and Santorum, in 2008 and 2012.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 02, 2016 5:50 AM GMT
    Unnamed6 saidOne thing that may be occurring is that Democrats are actually voting in the Republican caucuses.


    Somebody ALWAYS comes up with this conspiracy theory...