HRC's Republican Facts: Ready Reference Highlighting Candidates’ Records on LGBT Equality

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    Feb 01, 2016 3:36 AM GMT
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    http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts
    ...this website highlights the public statements of Republican candidates on key issues including: support for marriage equality, support for non-discrimination bills, opposition to dangerous conversion therapy, history of harmful rhetoric, and support for the right of LGBT Americans to adopt....

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  • vintovka

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    Feb 01, 2016 3:15 PM GMT
    If an irrelevant gay organization (that's mainly good at claiming credit for shit it didn't do), does a run down of some candidates that no self respecting person would vote for, does it make a sound?


    Crickets...

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    Feb 01, 2016 4:00 PM GMT
    It's best not to be a single-issue voter...

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    Feb 01, 2016 5:57 PM GMT
    vintovka saidIf an irrelevant gay organization (that's mainly good at claiming credit for shit it didn't do), does a run down of some candidates that no self respecting person would vote for, does it make a sound?

    Crickets...

    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.
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    Feb 01, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    vintovka saidIf an irrelevant gay organization (that's mainly good at claiming credit for shit it didn't do), does a run down of some candidates that no self respecting person would vote for, does it make a sound?

    Crickets...

    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    And how many consulate attacks were there under Dubya?

    You either HAVE consulates and accept risks and an internaional presence or you don't and you become isolationist.
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    Feb 01, 2016 7:41 PM GMT
    Relajado said
    MGINSD said
    vintovka saidIf an irrelevant gay organization (that's mainly good at claiming credit for shit it didn't do), does a run down of some candidates that no self respecting person would vote for, does it make a sound?

    Crickets...

    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    And how many consulate attacks were there under Dubya?

    You either HAVE consulates and accept risks and an internaional presence or you don't and you become isolationist.

    Don't deflect, please. The issue is HRC's silence about the murder of a gay man, NOT what occurred under which president's watch.
  • Relajado

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    Feb 01, 2016 7:48 PM GMT
    Sexuality had nothing to do with it. Literally. Soo there is nothing to be "silent" about, especially given Fox News and political opportunists. I think even after Republican attack committees found no wrong doing you can accept it and move on from blaming HRC.

    This is why conspiracy theorists thrive, from a hate of the random and the tragic, both of which exist and happen not as some grand scheme.
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    Feb 01, 2016 8:01 PM GMT
    Relajado saidSexuality had nothing to do with it. Literally. Soo there is nothing to be "silent" about, especially given Fox News and political opportunists. I think even after Republican attack committees found no wrong doing you can accept it and move on from blaming HRC.

    This is why conspiracy theorists thrive, from a hate of the random and the tragic, both of which exist and happen not as some grand scheme.

    You become even more irrelevant with each succeeding post. And, just imagine the howl - pace, Ginsberg - that HRC would have sent up had a gay man or lesbian been killed on a GOPer's watch. That would have been good for a few million in campaign contributions, at least. To paraphrase Tetzel, "Sobald die Selle aus die Erde springt, die Pfennig im Hillary's Kasten klingt."
  • Relajado

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    Feb 01, 2016 8:53 PM GMT
    Yet you are right wing Republicans, which is fast becoming irrelevant with each new generation.

    Sexuality had noothing to do with ir.

    You are being irrational.
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    Feb 01, 2016 10:50 PM GMT
    I will never give a donation to HRC ever again. icon_mad.gif
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    Feb 02, 2016 7:22 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    You're welcome to start a thread regarding the 4,486 American soldiers, and 1,455,590 Iraqis, killed in the second Iraq war (antiwar.com/casualties), which W., Cheney, and Rumsfeld led us into under false pretenses.
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    Feb 02, 2016 7:03 PM GMT
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    MGINSD said
    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    You're welcome to start a thread regarding the 4,486 American soldiers, and 1,455,590 Iraqis, killed in the second Iraq war ([urlhttp://antiwar.com/casualties/[/url], which W., Cheney, and Rumsfeld led us into under false pretenses.

    No thanks, I prefer to stay timely and on-topic. Let others delve and deflect as they will.
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    Feb 02, 2016 7:11 PM GMT
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    MGINSD said
    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    You're welcome to start a thread regarding the 4,486 American soldiers, and 1,455,590 Iraqis, killed in the second Iraq war ([urlhttp://antiwar.com/casualties/[/url], which W., Cheney, and Rumsfeld led us into under false pretenses.


    Sorry I took so long



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    Feb 02, 2016 7:16 PM GMT
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    Thanks for the video of Gore, too; it's been a long time since I had a laugh or 50 at his wide expanse. I'll never forget the interview Gore Vidal gave in which he derided his relation as a fool.
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    Feb 02, 2016 8:13 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidIt's best not to be a single-issue voter...
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    Besides that, as I've already mentioned in passing, anyone who can think their way out of a paper bag would never buy into the elephant shit of...

    mischaracterizing as single-issue politics our advocating for Gay Rights. The Republicans (being so) full of (such large) shit.

    Civil Rights is not a single issue. This isn't about just gun control or just abortion or just animal rights; rather, it is about a whole host of rights withheld from an entire segment of the population.

    Coming together to fight that isn't single issue politics, though I suppose it might be considered a voting bloc which might in some senses disband once rights have been gained and secured. But single issue? Not hardly.

    The LGBT Social Movement, The Gay Rights Movement involves many issues, not just one. Marriage, jobs, discrimination in housing, access to healthcare, adoption rights, protections against school bullying, homelessness, abuses by religion, etc. etc etc.

    Single issue? No. This is a Social Movement. Somewhat greater than a single issue.


    ...so it seems, with regard to your statement in your attempt to diminish the Great Gay Rights Movement and to your Trump fetish, that if it...

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    Or if he gets the R nomination will you either support the opposition or at least abstain?

    Meanwhile, back on topic...
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    http://www.hrc.org/2016republicanfacts
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    Huckabee on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: TBD
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy:” Opposed
    LGBT Adoption: Opposed
    Anti-bullying: TBD

    Trump on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Supported
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: Unclear
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy”: Unclear
    LGBT Adoption: Unclear
    Anti-Bullying: Unclear

    Cruz on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    Protect President Obama’s Executive Orders: Opposed
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy”: Opposed
    LGBT Adoption: Unclear
    Anti-bullying: Unclear

    Paul on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    Protecting President Obama’s LGBT Executive Orders: Opposed
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy:” TBD
    LGBT Adoption: TBD
    Anti-Bullying: TBD

    Rubio on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    Protecting President Obama’s Executive Orders: Opposed
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy” :Opposed
    LGBT Adoption: Opposed
    Anti-Bullying: TBD

    Carson on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: Unclear
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy”: Opposed
    LGBT Adoption: Opposed
    Anti-Bullying: Unclear

    Santorum on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: Unclear
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy”: Opposed
    LGBT Adoption: Opposed
    Anti-Bullying: Opposed

    Fiorina’s on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: Unclear
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy” : Unclear
    LGBT Adoption: Unclear
    Anti-Bullying: Unclear

    Bush on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    Protecting President Obama’s Executive Orders: Opposed
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy:” TBD
    LGBT Adoption: Mixed
    Anti-Bullying: Supported

    Kasich on the Issues
    Marriage Equality: Opposed
    Protecting LGBT Americans from Discrimination: Opposed
    President Obama’s Executive Orders: TBD
    Ban Harmful “Conversion Therapy:” TBD
    LGBT Adoption: Opposed
    Anti-Bullying: TBD

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    Feb 02, 2016 10:57 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
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    MGINSD said
    The crickets on HRC's palatial estate were deafening after Billary allowed Christopher Stevens to be murdered in Benghazi - and they've not been silent since.


    You're welcome to start a thread regarding the 4,486 American soldiers, and 1,455,590 Iraqis, killed in the second Iraq war ([urlhttp://antiwar.com/casualties/[/url], which W., Cheney, and Rumsfeld led us into under false pretenses.


    Sorry I took so long





    Number of Americans killed or wounded in Iraq under the Clinton Administration: 0
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    Feb 03, 2016 12:52 AM GMT
    True enough, as far as it goes, but if you're going to open that door, open it wide, so Hillary can waddle in:

    1993 - January 25 - Attack at CIA Headquarters in McLean, Virginia: 2 killed, 3 injured.
    1993 - February 26 - World Trade Center bombing, 6 killed, 1,042 injured.
    1995 - March 8 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan.
    1995 - April 19 - Oklahoma City bombing perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh, 168 killed, over 800 injured.
    1996 - June 25 - Khobar Towers bombing: 19 American servicemen killed.
    1996 - July 27 - Centennial Olympic Park bombing: during the Atlanta Olympics: 1 killed 111 injured.
    1998 - August 7 - US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 214 killed (including 12 Americans); U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 11 killed.
    2000 - USS Cole attacked, 17 U.S. Navy sailors killed, 39 sailors injured.

    Still, despite his peccadilloes - and perjury - Bill was light years ahead of Obama in every respect.
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    Feb 03, 2016 1:47 AM GMT
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp
    Claim: U.S. active duty military deaths were higher during the administration of President Clinton than during the administration of George W. Bush.

    Status: False.

    The numbers reproduced in this piece were taken from a Congressional Research Service (CRS) report on American War and Military Operations Casualties, using Table 4 on page 10, that presents statistics for U.S. active duty military deaths for the period 1980-2006.

    We find the following totals in that CRS report:

    Year President Deaths

    1980 Jimmy Carter 2,392

    1981 Ronald Reagan 2,380
    1982 Ronald Reagan 2,319
    1983 Ronald Reagan 2,465
    1984 Ronald Reagan 1,999
    1985 Ronald Reagan 2,252
    1986 Ronald Reagan 1,984
    1987 Ronald Reagan 1,983
    1988 Ronald Reagan 1,819
    Total during presidency 17,201

    1989 George H.W. Bush 1,636
    1990 George H.W. Bush 1,507
    1991 George H.W. Bush 1,787
    1992 George H.W. Bush 1,293
    Total during presidency 6,223

    1993 Bill Clinton 1,213
    1994 Bill Clinton 1,075
    1995 Bill Clinton 1,040
    1996 Bill Clinton 974
    1997 Bill Clinton 817
    1998 Bill Clinton 827
    1999 Bill Clinton 796
    2000 Bill Clinton 758
    Total during presidency 7,500

    2001 George W. Bush 891
    2002 George W. Bush 999
    2003 George W. Bush 1,228
    2004 George W. Bush 1,874
    2005 George W. Bush 1,942
    2006 George W. Bush 1,858
    Total during presidency 8,792

    When we consider all the information in this table, we also find that the number of active duty losses during the Clinton presidency was less than half the number that occurred during the Reagan presidency, and only about 20% higher than the number that occurred during the George H.W. Bush presidency (even though Clinton served as president for twice as long as the elder Bush).
  • Relajado

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    Feb 03, 2016 9:03 AM GMT
    So finished. Your attacks on Hillary are bizarre. The data speaks for itself.
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    Feb 07, 2016 2:07 AM GMT
    Yes, it does.