Here's Why HuffPost Gay Voices Just Changed Its Name To HuffPost Queer Voices

  • metta

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    Feb 02, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
    Here's Why HuffPost Gay Voices Just Changed Its Name To HuffPost Queer Voices

    We believe it's the most inclusive and empowering word to speak to and about the community.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/huffpost-gay-voices-changed-name-huffpost-queer-voices_us_56a78f78e4b0172c659422f9



    Personally, I'm not a fan of the change.
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    Feb 02, 2016 9:03 PM GMT
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  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 03, 2016 1:36 PM GMT
    metta saidHere's Why HuffPost Gay Voices Just Changed Its Name To HuffPost Queer Voices

    We believe it's the most inclusive and empowering word to speak to and about the community.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/huffpost-gay-voices-changed-name-huffpost-queer-voices_us_56a78f78e4b0172c659422f9



    Personally, I'm not a fan of the change.
    Probably just to pander to the gender bending radicals or transgendered who do not belong in our community in the first place. Go figure.
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    Feb 03, 2016 2:08 PM GMT
    Liberal Hypocrites at Huffpost:

    Here's the Definition of "queer" from Merriam Webster:
    1: worthless, counterfeit, questionable, suspicious,
    2: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal
    eccentric, unconventional, mildly insane, touched, absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree, obsessed, often disparaging, homosexual, sometimes offensive, gay, not quite well.

    Huffpost Hypocrites: Why aren't you normalizing derogatory terms for African Americans, Islamics and Hispanics?

    How about renaming "Black Voices"?

    Perhaps because of your own stereotype views that gays are feminine and won't defend themselves.

    Here's of partial list of Huffpost Supporters to boycott:
    OWN
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    Feb 03, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
    metta said
    Personally, I'm not a fan of the change (to queer).

    Nor am I. Queer has many negative connotations. Both in the etymology of the word itself, as well as in common US contemporary usage.

    I wonder if some "queer" activists on the HuffPost staff are promoting their own agenda? Is there a way to post comments to HuffPost, or contact their executive management directly?
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    Feb 03, 2016 4:10 PM GMT
    Not a fan of the word either.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 03, 2016 6:42 PM GMT
    Both the terms "faggot" and "queer" are very offensive terms. I detest both words. icon_mad.gif
  • bro4bro

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    Feb 03, 2016 8:34 PM GMT
    "Inclusive and empowering"?

    People would rather be "queer" than "gay"?

    That's fucking ridiculous.

    I've never been in love with the word "gay", but as a young kid (before we knew the word "faggot"), the absolute worst name you could call anyone was "queer". Even though we had no idea what it meant, aside from the traditional Webster's definitions quoted above.
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    Feb 03, 2016 9:03 PM GMT
    bro4bro said"Inclusive and empowering"?

    People would rather be "queer" than "gay"?

    That's fucking ridiculous.

    I've never been in love with the word "gay", but as a young kid (before we knew the word "faggot"), the absolute worst name you could call anyone was "queer". Even though we had no idea what it meant, aside from the traditional Webster's definitions quoted above.

    Agree. "Queer" was a slanderous word for me, derogatory and hateful. I know some gay activists want to adopt it as a defiance measure, but I'd rather it just died away and was forgotten.
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    Feb 03, 2016 9:12 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLiberal Hypocrites at Huffpost:

    Here's the Definition of "queer" from Merriam Webster:
    1: worthless, counterfeit, questionable, suspicious,
    2: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal
    eccentric, unconventional, mildly insane, touched, absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree, obsessed, often disparaging, homosexual, sometimes offensive, gay, not quite well.

    Huffpost Hypocrites: Why aren't you normalizing derogatory terms for African Americans, Islamics and Hispanics?

    How about renaming "Black Voices"?

    Perhaps because of your own stereotype views that gays are feminine and won't defend themselves.

    Here's of partial list of Huffpost Supporters to boycott:
    OWN
    Dr. Phil
    Acura
    blife
    Citicard
    AOL
    Verizon
    HomeAway
    Apple
    Mercedes Benz


    Get a grip, Jesus Christ...
  • metta

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    Feb 04, 2016 1:40 AM GMT
    Not Queer, Just Gay. No, Thanks.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-peron/not-queer-just-gay-no-thanks_b_9145566.html
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    Feb 04, 2016 2:41 AM GMT
    'Queer' is so 20 years ago, hardly "inclusive", nobody complained back then icon_rolleyes.gificon_confused.gif


    "Queer Gay As Folk"
    "Queer Gay Eye For The Straight Guy"









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    Feb 04, 2016 5:08 AM GMT
    "Isn't it Rich? Isn't It Gay?"

    #SendInTheClowns #DontBotherTheyreHere
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    Feb 04, 2016 5:20 AM GMT
    I was probably a little more confrontational and defiant.

    Few will believe this, but when I would meet someone for the first time I would frequently say "I'm ***** and I'm a faggot or queer or homo.

    I'm sure there are some equally old folks here on RJ who remember someone who did that in Columbus from 1970 up until 1980 and then in SoCal after 1980. Hello, I'm still around.

    In fact if one of the current presidential candidates, who went to OSU when I did, (he was a year ahead of me) remembered me at all, it would be for doing that. He would sort of shake his head and laugh.

    The shock value of doing this is part of the reason I went to CPAC and I've done it to some mighty big names in the GOP. Sure broke the ice and started conversations. Saying it at just the right time made many snort their drink right out their nose.

    Got me laid a bunch too.

    I loath the word gay and still do.
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    Feb 04, 2016 5:23 AM GMT
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    metta said
    Personally, I'm not a fan of the change (to queer).

    Nor am I. Queer has many negative connotations. Both in the etymology of the word itself, as well as in common US contemporary usage.

    I wonder if some "queer" activists on the HuffPost staff are promoting their own agenda? Is there a way to post comments to HuffPost, or contact their executive management directly?


    Of course

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/queer-voices/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/huffpost-gay-voices-changed-name-huffpost-queer-voices_us_56a78f78e4b0172c659422f9?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

    "We, like many others before us, have chosen to reclaim "queer" and to rename the section HuffPost Queer Voices because we believe that word is the most inclusive and empowering one available to us to speak to and about the community -- and because we are inspired by all of the profound possibilities it holds for self-discovery, self-realization and self-affirmation. We also revere its emphasis on intersectionality, which aids in creating, building and sustaining community while striving to bring about the liberation of all ´╗┐marginalized people, queer or not.

    "Queer" functions as an umbrella term that includes not only the lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people of "LGBT," but also those whose identities fall in between, outside of or stretch beyond those categories, including genderqueer people, intersex people, asexual people, pansexual people, polyamorous people and those questioning their sexuality or gender, to name just a few. These groups have been and will continue to be featured on The Huffington Post, however now the section dedicated to these identities will be inclusive not only in scope but also in name."
  • AMoonHawk

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    Feb 04, 2016 5:27 AM GMT
    I think "Rainbow Voices" would have been a better call.

    While we own queer and may use it, it is not necessarily appreciated when others user.
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    Feb 04, 2016 5:28 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidI think "Rainbow Voices" would have been a better call.

    While we own queer and may use it, it is not necessarily appreciated when others user.


    "Rainbow"

    That was stolen from Jesse
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    Feb 04, 2016 8:27 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    metta said
    Personally, I'm not a fan of the change (to queer).

    Nor am I. Queer has many negative connotations. Both in the etymology of the word itself, as well as in common US contemporary usage.

    I wonder if some "queer" activists on the HuffPost staff are promoting their own agenda? Is there a way to post comments to HuffPost, or contact their executive management directly?


    But one has always thought of you as being queer, along with being a confused bisexual. One does not say this in a negative way; of course.
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    Feb 04, 2016 8:33 AM GMT
    Once gay represented us homosexuals. Then it was hijacked by every Tom, Dick, and Harriet, and us homosexuals have been left without an identity of our own. Can we talk, after all we have never been one tribe, and shoving us all under the one teepee just has not worked, with the creation of the american alphabet soup;GLBTQBH....... So queer works for me, as we are all queer in our own way. But we are not all Bonafide Homosexuals.

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    Feb 04, 2016 4:55 PM GMT
    For all the talk about "self-loathing" and other psychobabble thrown about by the "queer" crowd, it sure says something about their own self-image when they adopt such a derogatory term, whether they're "taking it back" or not. I've found these people to be just not self-loathing, but very easy to loathe myself.

    I don't need anyone to define me, TYVM. I prefer to do that through what I do, not what I say I am.
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    Feb 04, 2016 8:19 PM GMT
    We are all queer in our own way; no one is perfect. The people inflicted with narsasisem, will struggle with this concept. Suppose it is the one thing we do all have in common. Thus instead of one ststing gay communities, as we have never been one. I'll use queer community.
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    Feb 04, 2016 8:29 PM GMT
    Are there any queers in the audience tonight? Get them up against the wall!
    https://youtu.be/8urkDqSoc54?t=148
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    Feb 04, 2016 10:13 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidI think "Rainbow Voices" would have been a better call.

    While we own queer and may use it, it is not necessarily appreciated when others user.


    Now that idea I like! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 05, 2016 4:21 PM GMT
    Queer is actually a more accurate word to use as I believe it's real meaning simply means alternative, odd, or strange behaviour compared to the norm. Gay used to mean merry, happy go lucky behavior, which is not a very fair or accurate foundation for a sexually defining word to stem from.

    the problem is that in my head it makes more sense to describe me as queer, since queer doesn't imply a strict sexuality towards a certain sex, but rather a sexuality that is attracted to more alternative and slightly taboo things (within reason), but the cultural definition of queer is just weird and freakish since we're not that open minded of a culture, making me not want to use the word with others.

    All labels change and become contaminated over time, that's why it's better to constantly paraphrase yourself in new ways to get away from cliches.
  • Allen

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    Feb 07, 2016 12:42 AM GMT
    It's one thing if you want to use the term "queer" to describe yourself. But it's silly to expect everyone in the LGBT community to embrace or approve the term. And how does a term that so many people DO find offensive serve to make our community more inclusive? It doesn't.

    I'm gay; I'm not queer. Many of us have spent several decades trying to convince the world that as gay people we are just like everyone else, except for out sexual orientation. For that reason, I refuse to accept a label that defines me as odd, different, or weird.

    Someone started a petition on change.org to get The Huffington Post to quit calling the section that's directed at the LGBT community as "Queer Voices." Several people have suggested "Rainbow Voices" as a better alternative. And I agree.

    Here's a link to the petition if anyone would like to sign it:

    Link to Petition

    I'm trying to figure out how to sign this petition without revealing too much personal information about myself.