A young spiritual guru

  • beaujangle

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    Feb 09, 2016 10:32 AM GMT
    Pretty cute

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    Feb 09, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
    Blah, blah, blah. All I heard were oft spoken platitudes spouted by many other self improvement speakers. Nothing new.
  • interestingch...

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    Feb 09, 2016 2:30 PM GMT
    Who the hell is this guy, what life experience does he have, he's in his late twenties at a guess and i'm sorry doesn't know much yet, probably never been out of the country and experienced anything apart from his homeland. He seems harmless but really, what makes him qualified to be a guru for god sake, it's a bit of a joke, seeing all those people in the crowd with their fake smiles because they are all lost and looking for something seems kinda pathetic in some ways, you can achieve enlightenment through yoga and meditation which takes years of practice to get there. Everything he says is pretty obvious as regards positive thinking which yes of course helps, but that is a tiny fraction to achieve an enlightened frame of mind. It is also about diet and cleansing and opening chakras which are energy points and all to do with auras and our magnetic field. I can't believe how gullible people are,
    Only in America do you get this going on, is this the start of a cult or is it harmless?
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    Feb 09, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
    Is that gay face?
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    Feb 09, 2016 7:58 PM GMT
    Yeah I actually agree with the other comments, he sounds more like someone who is profiting from rather mundane explanations of things rather than someone who has actually been in the dirt figuring shit out and giving it to people who need answers.

    I think this video was posted because of his looks or something.
  • Breeman

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    Feb 10, 2016 3:03 AM GMT
    I've seen this type of thing over the years. These people came looking for direction or some positive influence. He's saying all the right words in this video, but I suspect at the seminars, it's the usual 'New Age', 'look within', talk that I remember experiencing back in the '80's and '90's. I think it becomes a problem is when he starts charging $150. for an evening of group hugs, and 'look within your soul' preaching.

    Who knows? I'd have to experience one of his sessions to know for sure.
  • beaujangle

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    Feb 10, 2016 3:33 AM GMT
    Breeman saidI've seen this type of thing over the years. These people came looking for direction or some positive influence. He's saying all the right words in this video, but I suspect at the seminars, it's the usual 'New Age', 'look within', talk that I remember experiencing back in the '80's and '90's. I think it becomes a problem is when he starts charging $150. for an evening of group hugs, and 'look within your soul' preaching.

    Who knows? I'd have to experience one of his sessions to know for sure.



    Where there's a fee, it would cover rent, food and other expenses. $150 isn't close to thousands like what Tony Robbins charges for his seminars
  • beaujangle

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    Feb 10, 2016 3:37 AM GMT
    interestingchap saidWho the hell is this guy, what life experience does he have, he's in his late twenties at a guess and i'm sorry doesn't know much yet, probably never been out of the country and experienced anything apart from his homeland. He seems harmless but really, what makes him qualified to be a guru for god sake, it's a bit of a joke, seeing all those people in the crowd with their fake smiles because they are all lost and looking for something seems kinda pathetic in some ways, you can achieve enlightenment through yoga and meditation which takes years of practice to get there. Everything he says is pretty obvious as regards positive thinking which yes of course helps, but that is a tiny fraction to achieve an enlightened frame of mind. It is also about diet and cleansing and opening chakras which are energy points and all to do with auras and our magnetic field. I can't believe how gullible people are,
    Only in America do you get this going on, is this the start of a cult or is it harmless?



    Yes, he's been out of his country and he's not American. I suggest you google search him first before voicing such strong opinion
  • interestingch...

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    Feb 10, 2016 6:28 AM GMT
    beaujangle said
    interestingchap saidWho the hell is this guy, what life experience does he have, he's in his late twenties at a guess and i'm sorry doesn't know much yet, probably never been out of the country and experienced anything apart from his homeland. He seems harmless but really, what makes him qualified to be a guru for god sake, it's a bit of a joke, seeing all those people in the crowd with their fake smiles because they are all lost and looking for something seems kinda pathetic in some ways, you can achieve enlightenment through yoga and meditation which takes years of practice to get there. Everything he says is pretty obvious as regards positive thinking which yes of course helps, but that is a tiny fraction to achieve an enlightened frame of mind. It is also about diet and cleansing and opening chakras which are energy points and all to do with auras and our magnetic field. I can't believe how gullible people are,
    Only in America do you get this going on, is this the start of a cult or is it harmless?



    Yes, he's been out of his country and he's not American. I suggest you google search him first before voicing such strong opinion


    OK I didn't research him before writing this, he is Dutch and travelled to India and maybe elsewhere but that still doesn't qualify him to be a guru and lead people, sorry but it doesn't, and someone on here also commented about him possibly charging money for this supposed expertise on life, I wouldn't pay anyone for this, I would probably go for a laugh and make fun of the whole thing if it was for free. It looks like a scam to get money out of people, if he wanted to do so much good then he wouldn't charge for it, I feel kinda sorry for the people in the crowd if their lives are that empty.
    When he has walked in my shoes and coped with the things I have coped with and the same with what others have been through then he will be qualified to be some kind of guru. I lost half my family all within 18 months of each other and also nursed one of them through a serious condition until they died, had a bad car accident a month before all that started amongst the other things that have happened in my life so if he has dealt with serious trauma and got through it then I might listen to some advice that he has because that would make him partially able to give advice on my life. I learned yoga and meditation after dealing with all that trauma which probably saved my sanity, I may well have lost myself in drink or drugs or whatever if I hadn't tried to focus on myself in some positive way, god knows where I would be now if I hadn't done this.
    So when some little upstart gives me advice on life or lectures me when they they haven't been through anything I will tell them to take a running hike. Sorry, i'm just a realist and i'm not deluded.
  • Fireworkz

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    Feb 10, 2016 7:23 AM GMT
    It didn't really resonate with me but age doesn't necessarily imply wisdom. Youth doesn't imply a lack.
    In India even children can become gurus believed to be the reincarnation of sages.


    Some people access higher states of consciousness and wisdom beyond their years' experience. If you meditate well you can get insights into life in a relatively short period of time. Some people are gifted.

    The journey of wisdom is an inward journey governed by how much time you spend doing it, not by how long you have lived.

    You can be wise and young. Just because he is a guru doesn't mean he won't go through his own personal challenges in his life. He will learn and develop as we all do.

    Maybe he is real maybe is fake.


  • beaujangle

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    Feb 10, 2016 10:08 AM GMT
    Fireworkz saidIt didn't really resonate with me but age doesn't necessarily imply wisdom. Youth doesn't imply a lack.
    In India even children can become gurus believed to be the reincarnation of sages.


    Some people access higher states of consciousness and wisdom beyond their years' experience. If you meditate well you can get insights into life in a relatively short period of time. Some people are gifted.

    The journey of wisdom is an inward journey governed by how much time you spend doing it, not by how long you have lived.

    You can be wise and young. Just because he is a guru doesn't mean he won't go through his own personal challenges in his life. He will learn and develop as we all do.

    Maybe he is real maybe is fake.




    +1 I like your reply; you have an open mind with a healthy dose of scepticism. Very balanced indeed
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    Feb 10, 2016 10:16 AM GMT
    It seems like this one is regurgitating the same information that was delivered to folks over the years by other "experts" out there in the world.

    Every time I skipped to another part of the video (which was often) it was another recycled sound bite, excessive hand movements and people craving attention. The dance party in the middle was an eye-roller...seemed very cult-like.

    In desperation for guidance, significance and/or answers to life a person will go to any level to find what they need. Religion is another example. Hey, if he is reaching people more power to him. If he makes people feel better about themselves good for him.

    As for him being cute...well, that's a matter of opinion.
  • Fireworkz

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    Feb 10, 2016 10:27 AM GMT
    ScottCLE saidIt seems like this one is regurgitating the same information that was delivered to folks over the years by other "experts" out there in the world.

    Every time I skipped to another part of the video (which was often) it was another recycled sound bite, excessive hand movements and people craving attention. The dance party in the middle was an eye-roller...seemed very cult-like.

    In desperation for guidance, significance and/or answers to life a person will go to any level to find what they need. Religion is another example. Hey, if he is reaching people more power to him. If he makes people feel better about themselves good for him.

    As for him being cute...well, that's a matter of opinion.


    There are many mouth pieces for the same wisdom as there are many different types of people and not everyone resonates with everyone.

    Just as there are many different religious leaders teaching from the same book.
    Just as we might prefer one personal trainer over another, or another yoga teacher over another when they all teach the same thing.
    And just like we can like more than one musical artist in the same musical genre.

    Some are better than others, some are more credible than others.
    As long as he is not misguiding or harming his audience then it is ok.
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    Feb 10, 2016 4:06 PM GMT
    In one of his seminar videos, he's giving a light and fluffy version of how people can attract what they want and desire and mixing it with the power of being in the now-moment state of mind. This isn't the hard truth I hear from more experienced spiritual gurus. I can see why he's drawing a crowd.
  • onelousymick

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    Feb 10, 2016 4:29 PM GMT
    Still nothing on this guy:
    [url]http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-a-canadian-staring-cult-224
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    Feb 10, 2016 7:40 PM GMT
    If he's smart he could come to the US and register his organization as a religion and then it'll be tax free income. That's what L. Ron Hubbard did. There are always plenty of gullible people around to give them their money.

    That John guy sounds like he's on the right track.

    http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-a-canadian-staring-cult-224
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    Mar 02, 2016 12:58 AM GMT
    Congrats to him for raking in the money by taking advantage of these willing sheep.