WILL THE DEATH OF SCALIA TILT THE COURT BACK TO THE LEFT??

  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 13, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
    His death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp? LOL

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  • badbug

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    Feb 13, 2016 10:39 PM GMT

    Hadn't heard he died. I thought it felt like the world was a marginally better place lately. icon_cool.gif

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    Feb 13, 2016 11:12 PM GMT


    What an interesting development, another significant death so far this year and on the 13th of the month

    Visiting Texas? Hmmm, maybe its a faked death?, or a 'murder' made to look like a sleep death?, to throw a complete, conservative, wrench into the election, the election that is so important to the right wing. All Republican candidates are vowing to appoint conservative justices. The right wing is so desperate, I wouldn't put it past them if they plotted or faked his death just to get a chance to appoint a serious right wing, hard core justice

    Or this is a truly sad day for the religious right wing nuts and their Reagan cheerleaders


    Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Vows to Put Hard-Core Conservatives on Supreme Court
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-02/ted-cruz-vows-to-put-hard-core-conservatives-on-the-supreme-court


    Ted Cruz says Republicans have “an abysmal record” when it comes to picking Supreme Court justices, and it is something the Texas senator promises to rectify if he's elected president.

    Cruz, who argued cases before the Supreme Court as the solicitor general of his state and has taught law school classes on the art of presenting cases to the high court, told Bloomberg Politics in an exclusive interview in Iowa on Monday that his party has a knack for picking eventual heretics who side with liberals on divisive issues.

    As examples, he cited Chief Justice John Roberts, an appointee of President George W. Bush, who rejected a challenge to President Barack Obama's health care law in 2012, and Justice Anthony Kennedy, a Ronald Reagan appointee, who voted in 2015 to make same-sex marriage a constitutional right. Both cases were decided 5 to 4.



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    Feb 13, 2016 11:18 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidHis death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp? LOL

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    The current Senate makeup may make it impossible for Obama to get any nominee approved, who isn't a raving Right Wing nutjob. He might be better to leave a vacancy on the court for the rest of his second term, in the hope that prospects in 2017 look better.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:31 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    HndsmKansan saidHis death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp? LOL

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    badbug said
    Hadn't heard he died. I thought it felt like the world was a marginally better place lately. icon_cool.gif



    ELNathB said

    What an interesting development, another significant death so far this year and on the 13th of the month

    Visiting Texas? Hmmm, maybe its a faked death?, or a 'murder' made to look like a sleep death?, to throw a complete, conservative, wrench into the election, the election that is so important to the right wing. All Republican candidates are vowing to appoint conservative justices. The right wing is so desperate, I wouldn't put it past them if they plotted or faked his death just to get a chance to appoint a serious right wing, hard core justice

    Or this is a truly sad day for the religious right wing nuts and their Reagan cheerleaders


    Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Vows to Put Hard-Core Conservatives on Supreme Court
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-02/ted-cruz-vows-to-put-hard-core-conservatives-on-the-supreme-court


    Ted Cruz says Republicans have “an abysmal record” when it comes to picking Supreme Court justices, and it is something the Texas senator promises to rectify if he's elected president.

    Cruz, who argued cases before the Supreme Court as the solicitor general of his state and has taught law school classes on the art of presenting cases to the high court, told Bloomberg Politics in an exclusive interview in Iowa on Monday that his party has a knack for picking eventual heretics who side with liberals on divisive issues.

    As examples, he cited Chief Justice John Roberts, an appointee of President George W. Bush, who rejected a challenge to President Barack Obama's health care law in 2012, and Justice Anthony Kennedy, a Ronald Reagan appointee, who voted in 2015 to make same-sex marriage a constitutional right. Both cases were decided 5 to 4.


    No sympathy at all from the libs when a fellow human being has died.




    Why should their be sympathy? It appears 'it was planned' by the very nut job, from Texas, running for president. These sociopaths don't care, they will eat their young, in this case, their elders. It just look 'too obvious' and suspect #1 is Ted, grandpa monster, Cruz. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Ted Cruz and other conservatives are arguing Obama shouldn't get to replace Justice Scalia
    http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10987012/should-obama-replace-scalia

    Within minutes of the confirmation of the news that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia had died, influential conservatives were laying down the notion that President Obama shouldn't be allowed to nominate a replacement.

    Presidential candidate and Texas senator Ted Cruz led the charge
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:36 PM GMT
    ELNathB said



    The right wing is so desperate, I wouldn't put it past them if they plotted or faked his death just to get a chance to appoint a serious right wing, hard core justice





    Plotted or faked his death knowing that any appointment by a liberal President is going to be another liberal? Further knowing that if they drag it out until after the election denying Obama's appointments they're all but handing the election and maybe the Senate as well over to the Democrats? Gotchaicon_rolleyes.gif

    They might deny a couple of his choices but the GOP knows they have to give in to someone before November otherwise it's suicide. The left and the media will have a field day for the rest of the year with that one.
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 13, 2016 11:36 PM GMT
    The GOP is already saying they will vote against anyone Obama nominates, regardless of who it is -- why am I not surprised? Republicans would rather wait an entire year with a vacant seat on the Court, in the slim hope that Donald Trump is elected and then nominates a conservative.

    What's really interesting about the "tactic" of Republicans automatically opposing everything Obama puts forward: The Supreme Court will continue to hear cases for the next year, regardless of whether the vacant seat is filled. The Conservatives just lost one of their two reliably conservative votes. Which means their side is vastly outnumbered.
    I say: delay as long as you want, Republicans, you will simply lose more cases during that period, and all polls point to Hillary being elected anyway.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:39 PM GMT

    How convenient, he was poisoned just before challenging a Texas law over abortion icon_rolleyes.gif



    Scalia’s death comes just a month before the court’s biggest abortion case in years
    http://www.vox.com/2015/11/13/9731550/supreme-court-abortion-texas/in/10751011

    The unexpected death of justice Antonin Scalia comes less than a month before the Supreme Court hears its biggest abortion case in a decade.

    On March 2, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Whole Women's Health v. Hellerstadt, a challenge to a Texas law that has closed about half of the state's abortion clinics since 2013.


    If the law is allowed to stand, abortion rights supporters say it would close all but about 10 of Texas abortion clinics. Advocates on both sides of the abortion issue say this case could be the most important decision on abortion in 25 years.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:39 PM GMT
    Rot in hell, you old bastard.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:40 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidHis death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp?

    I also note that southbeach1500's increasingly hysterical rants center on such important issues as which forum this discussion has been placed within. Plus the poor writing of his posts ("...as he did I in the Scalia topic running...") suggests he's drunk again. It might be best to ignore him until he sobers up, which might be some time next week. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:40 PM GMT
    ^^^ I've been following this closely and haven't seen or heard anyone - GOPer, Demo, or Indie-Soc - say anything about opposing any Obama nominee. Would you please source us on that rather bold claim?

    RIP Justice Scalia!
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:41 PM GMT
    javelin7 saidRot in hell, you old bastard.


    To clarify, I was talking to southbeach.

    Scalia had no soul to roast.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:48 PM GMT
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    javelin7 saidRot in hell, you old bastard.


    To clarify, I was talking to southbeach.

    Scalia had no soul to roast.




    I think the man was bumped off, poisoned the night before, by those Texas, tea party sociopathic, religious nut jobs, on the eve of the right wing favorite day and number, 13.

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    Feb 13, 2016 11:50 PM GMT
    MGINSD said^^^ I've been following this closely and haven't seen or heard anyone - GOPer, Demo, or Indie-Soc - say anything about opposing any Obama nominee. Would you please source us on that rather bold claim?

    You own buddy southbeach1500 is saying it, right in this thread. Please look above.

    "Fortunately, Mitch McConnell (for once) apparently is going to do the right thing and not allow the vacancy to be filled."

    Maybe you need to have a chat with him.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:52 PM GMT
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    I've laughed somewhat inappropriately but uncontrollably at funerals before when something would strike me funny but I've never known myself to laugh at news of someone's death. I had to look twice at this thread and google to confirm.

    The only thing about this that upsets me is that today is not my birthday.
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:53 PM GMT
    I just logged on to see if anybody had started a thread titled "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead."

    So disappointed... icon_cry.gif



    Wonder how the timeline works out though? The Obama crowd has been so anal about vetting their nominees and congress moves at the speed of... Is it even possible to install a new justice in 10 months? You would think they would keep a list of candidates on hand though.

    Oh, and how does it affect this summer's court docket?
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:56 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidI just logged on to see if anybody had started a thread titled "Ding Dong The Witch Douche Is Dead."


    fixed
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    Feb 13, 2016 11:59 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidNo sympathy at all from the libs when a fellow human being has died.


    Weep for Hitler
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 14, 2016 12:16 AM GMT
    Scalia dead for mere hours and Republicans are already saying they will ignore the Constitution and leave the Supreme Court seat open for more than a year, rather than consider anyone Obama will nominate -- regardless of who it is.
    By the time a new President is sworn in in 2017 and the entire nomination process begins, it could easily be 1.5 years with a vacant seat on the Court. Has this ever happened before in history? And what happens if Hillary wins, as polls now indicate? Will Republicans still refuse to ratify anyone she nominates, in hopes of winning the Presidency in 2020?


    http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2016/02/cruz-rubio-mcconnell-insist-that-new-president-fill-scalia-seat-on-supreme-court.html
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    Feb 14, 2016 12:18 AM GMT

    He was a Sicilian, Catholic Italian icon_rolleyes.gif



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    Feb 14, 2016 12:22 AM GMT
    from 2014
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/04/20/3428794/theres-a-hidden-timebomb-in-the-senate-rules-that-will-go-off-if-a-supreme-court-justice-retires/
    If Republicans take the Senate this November, we may need to get used to seeing an empty seat on the Supreme Court for a very long time.


    from 2015
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-the-next-supreme-court-vacancy-will-favor-liberals-no-matter-who-retires/2015/12/31/12828dce-978b-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html
    ...“What do you do with ties, in the meantime?” he wrote in the National Review. “Again, there’s an easy answer. The Court has a standard practice about what to do in such situations, and it is a sound one: it leaves the judgment of the lower court alone. Ties go to the winner in the ‘court below,’ but without setting a national precedent....

    ...the Constitution doesn’t say anything about needing nine....

    ...But partisans should take note: Thanks to a wealth of recent Democratic appointments on the lower courts, letting the Supreme Court go down to eight justices would favor liberals...
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    Feb 14, 2016 12:40 AM GMT
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  • wild_sky360

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    Feb 14, 2016 1:08 AM GMT
    I'm surprised by the immediate obstinance, unless it's a strategy. From a conservative perspective, in these circumstances the best bet would be to consider a moderate nominee from Obama now. I doubt Trump would nominate an ideologue but both Sanders and Clinton undoubtedly would. If Obama nominates someone now without an agenda, the great majority in the middle would sigh in relief; myself included.
  • buddycat

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    Feb 14, 2016 1:20 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidHis death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp? LOL

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    Looks like it might be vacant for a while. Republicans in Congress will stall hoping to win in 2016.
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    Feb 14, 2016 1:23 AM GMT
    buddycat said
    HndsmKansan saidHis death on 2/13/16 will require a new justice to be appointed. Look out for the battles ahead. Will Obama finally get his stamp? LOL

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    Looks like it might be vacant for a while. Republicans in Congress will stall hoping to win in 2016.
    If they stall the process...it will bite them in the ass at election time.