Speedo Quality

  • ChicagoSteve

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    Feb 16, 2016 10:52 PM GMT
    This is the brand I always think of with swimming, and I've been buying both Speedo swimsuits and googles for years. The quality of their swimsuits has really gone down in recent years. In the last several years, I've bought a new speedo suit literally every 2 months. I have no choice, because after that time period they are totally faded and stretched out. About a month ago, I decided to switch and try another brand and bought a Nike suit. After one month, no fading or stretching. Looks like Nike from now on.
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    Feb 17, 2016 12:26 PM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThis is the brand I always think of with swimming, and I've been buying both Speedo swimsuits and googles for years. The quality of their swimsuits has really gone down in recent years. In the last several years, I've bought a new speedo suit literally every 2 months. I have no choice, because after that time period they are totally faded and stretched out. About a month ago, I decided to switch and try another brand and bought a Nike suit. After one month, no fading or stretching. Looks like Nike from now on.
    This is exactly what happens when greedy Wall Street investors pressure athletic apparel companies to shift all their production to China, India, and Indonesia. Fucking corrupt Wall Street cannot get its fill of money.icon_mad.gif
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    Feb 17, 2016 2:54 PM GMT
    If Speedo can't maintain their quality they'll lose the business of high school and college swim teams. The example of the teams will spread to individual swimmers and divers. Competitors to Speedo will exploit quality and product innovation weaknesses.

    Before Speedo achieved industry dominance a major school-based brand was Ocean Pool (Who? Yeah, exactly). I wore them myself, if we wore anything depending on the pool, back when I had a slender swimmer's build and swam indoors a lot for exercise.

    They were 100% non-elasticized nylon, and teams and pool operators liked their sturdiness, quick drying, and resistance to fading and mildew growth, all problems with earlier suit materials. A distinguishing characteristic of the men's briefs was double fabric construction, effectively 2 suits in 1, a complete smaller one inside a larger, loose outer one. This provided more modesty when wet, and a degree of male support & control wearing non-elastic fabric.

    And shyer guys liked their less revealing appearance. But the slack fabric generated water drag when swimming fast.

    So when Speedo started aggressively marketing their low-drag snug latex blend suits, teams and swimmers who prioritized competitive speed sacrificed a bit of modesty for a winning advantage. Speedo became the standard and dominated the field. And this evolution could happen again if Speedo doesn't keep their guard up. The name of the game is winning, not brand loyalty. And also equipment replacement costs for entire swim & diving teams.
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    Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM GMT
    My HS team swam in Dolphins, and I've gone back to buying them. They're MUCH more durable than Speedos, and than TYR suits, which aren't too bad. Avoid Swim Outlet's house brand, whose name I've forgotten, as they fall apart quickly.

    Choose wisely for goggles, and if you need to use them, earplugs and nose clips, too. For the latter two, the simpler the better; avoid Speedo's products there, too. TYR offers a great anti-fog, dark polarized goggle done up in various nations' colors; I started out w/ Germany and am now working on France. The polarization makes all the difference in the world!
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    Feb 17, 2016 6:40 PM GMT
    I hadn't noticed that, but I have no place to swim laps in recent years, so mine are lasting even longer than they used to. Always a bit snug to start with and more comfortable after they stretch a bit.

    Anyhow, you know that, so just an outside-the-box ponderable: What if it's not the suit? Some change in pool chemistry? UV exposure? Ozone? Laundry parameters? Sometimes these things can be subtle clues that Something Is Going On.
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:28 PM GMT
    I have trunks made by a company call Shan (Montreal-based, I believe) and I'm amazed that they still retain their vibrant Royal Blue colour after a couple of years. I swim in a pool with an ozone-based system so maybe that helps.
  • honestsweat

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    Feb 17, 2016 10:32 PM GMT
    Ask your YMCA to engage in some retro action and return to the 1950s when they didn't allow men to wear bathing suits. (Unhygienic!) Problem solved. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 17, 2016 10:38 PM GMT
    Try TYR, Too!
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    Feb 17, 2016 10:55 PM GMT
    honestsweat saidAsk your YMCA to engage in some retro action and return to the 1950s when they didn't allow men to wear bathing suits. (Unhygienic!) Problem solved. icon_lol.gif

    YMCAs became coed "Family Centers" to stay afloat financially in the late 1970s, and also under pressure from feminist groups. Therefore nude male swimming had to end.

    And it wasn't so much that men weren't ALLOWED to wear swimsuits, but rather that they weren't needed. I used Ys from the 1950s, I know.

    Men were naked together in a gang shower before you entered the pool, and naked again when you showered afterwards. There were no women in the pool area.

    The showers of some Ys I used (and a few Army athletic centers) were wide open to view from the pool area, no doors or partitions. Since it was a male-only environment no money was wasted on superfluous and inconvenient privacy doors. You all showered together nude, you swam together nude. It made perfect sense to us at the time.

    Why exactly would you need to put on a swimsuit to get it wet in the pool? Modesty? It was considered unmanly to be shy among other naked men in that time period. Only girlie "queers" might have a problem with it, was the common assumption.

    Wearing a suit of natural fabric could produce lint that clogged the early pool filters. Or was dirty and full of mildew, from being kept wet in a gym bag or locker. So there was a practical, hygienic side to it, too.

    Years later, when I had to conduct Army drownproofing classes in a college pool, I consulted some books on swimming instruction and pool management. And these books actually advised that males should swim naked in the absence of females. Although they did say boys and men should swim separately at segregated times. But I also saw this guidance regarding boys not applied during periodic "Father & Son" days at the Y.

    But the main fact remains: It wasn't that we HAD to swim naked, but rather that we DIDN'T HAVE to be bothered with an unnecessary swimsuit. And most guys liked it that way. That's the point lost today from the perspective of the new male modesty, that we didn't have back then.
  • interesting

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    Feb 18, 2016 12:14 AM GMT
    The only thing I have from Speedo was the jammers from high school, and it's fading and stretched out. I think it is based on the fabrics!

    I love this website, it gave me the guide to buy the correct type of swimwear:
    https://agonswim.com/fabrics/fabricInformationGuide.cfm

    The one pair I have right now is from TYR, and it's doing wonders for me.
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    Feb 18, 2016 12:33 AM GMT
    Speed's quality went down and prices increased due to their parent companies bankruptcy some years ago.

    Also the elimination of competitive full body suits for men required increasing profit by producing the remaining suits to wear out faster requiring more frequent replacement.










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    Feb 18, 2016 1:26 AM GMT
    COLORED TEXT GOES HERERESIZED TEXT GOES HEREicon_biggrin.gif i myself prefer good underwear and low briefs, but to go swimming i prefer the nude, the best way to swim and lay out and get a good tan all over
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    Feb 18, 2016 10:17 AM GMT
    Try aussiebums -they are amazing!
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    Feb 18, 2016 6:47 PM GMT
    funmikey saidCOLORED TEXT GOES HERERESIZED TEXT GOES HEREicon_biggrin.gif i myself prefer good underwear and low briefs, but to go swimming i prefer the nude, the best way to swim and lay out and get a good tan all over
    Nudity, wrong answericon_exclaim.gif
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    Feb 19, 2016 2:12 AM GMT
    "I've bought a new speedo suit literally every 2 months. I have no choice, because after that time period they are totally faded and stretched out"...

    There's probably a good after market for faded stretched speedos on here or other sites...
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    Feb 19, 2016 11:56 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSpeed's quality went down and prices increased due to their parent companies bankruptcy some years ago.

    Also the elimination of competitive full body suits for men required increasing profit by producing the remaining suits to wear out faster requiring more frequent replacement.

    Sounds believable.
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    Feb 19, 2016 12:03 PM GMT
    funmikey said
    i myself prefer good underwear and low briefs, but to go swimming i prefer the nude, the best way to swim and lay out and get a good tan all over

    I keep a pair of trunks just for public beaches, which I rarely visit anyway. Otherwise I swim nude in the private backyard pools of gay friends, or the pools at gay mens guest houses, or the official nude public beach a few miles from here.

    Sometimes when I pack my suitcase for a trip I don't even waste space with a swimsuit I won't be wearing. If I can't swim or sun nude, I'll do neither. There's a community pool here at our condo complex that I haven't used in the 9 years I've been a resident, because a suit would be required. I hate swimsuits.
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    Feb 19, 2016 7:32 PM GMT
    ^^^ Way too much detail and, as usual, way off topic.
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    Feb 20, 2016 5:49 AM GMT
    I have to admit that I still keep fantasizing about a regular vacation getaway, to which I just stuff a speedo in my pocket and head for the airport icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 20, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidI have to admit that I still keep fantasizing about a regular vacation getaway, to which I just stuff a speedo in my pocket and head for the airport icon_wink.gif

    And, when you get there, are you asked, "Is that a Speedo in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?"? icon_cool.gif
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Feb 20, 2016 10:59 PM GMT
    This is actually pretty funny considering I posted this thread. Today I was at the health club pool, all set to swim, go to put on my Speedo goggles, and they literally fall apart. icon_sad.gif
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    Feb 20, 2016 11:08 PM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThis is actually pretty funny considering I posted this thread. Today I was at the health club pool, all set to swim, go to put on my Speedo goggles, and they literally fall apart. icon_sad.gif

    Your replacement is only a click away:

    http://www.swimoutlet.com/p/tyr-special-ops-20-polarized-france-goggle-7534290/?color=10119

    These are the clearest goggles I've ever seen through!
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    Feb 20, 2016 11:21 PM GMT
    MGINSD said^^^ Way too much detail and, as usual, way off topic.

    A typical comment from an old, overweight whale like you. Did you ever teach swimming in college, as I did? Your entire presence here on this gay health & fitness site is off-topic.
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    Feb 20, 2016 11:30 PM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThis is actually pretty funny considering I posted this thread. Today I was at the health club pool, all set to swim, go to put on my Speedo goggles, and they literally fall apart. icon_sad.gif

    I have very poor vision, really handicaps me in a pool. But my optometrists (a lovely lesbian couple, good friends of ours), get me these inexpensive prescription swim goggles. Not my exact prescription, they're pre-made like drug store reading glasses, both lenses the same correction and my eyes are actually about 1/4 diopter apart in strength, plus I have a mild astigmatism, as well as require bifocals. But just to use the pool they're fine, and seem well made. Or sometimes just floating around on a raft at a resort pool, not seriously swimming, I'll just wear my regular prescription sunglasses with a sports band.

    If you need eyeglasses you might ask your provider about these goggles.
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    Feb 21, 2016 8:09 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    MGINSD said^^^ Way too much detail and, as usual, way off topic.

    A typical comment from an old, overweight whale like you. Did you ever teach swimming in college, as I did? Your entire presence here on this gay health & fitness site is off-topic.

    Funny you should ask, Mr. Belvedere, because I actually did teach swimming, and canoeing, in and before college. I was a lifeguard, too, on the Great Lakes, in the Mediterranean, and at lots of pools, too. If you know what a WSI was, that was me.
    You got the old[er] and overweight part right, but in your case add insufferably pompous and ridiculous to remain on point.