Sanders - do nothing radical, failure, only accomplishment talking about how the rich are ripping everyone off

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    Feb 17, 2016 9:44 AM GMT
    ...if it turns out that the "takers" of the world are seeing their own reflection in Bernie's LensCrafters clearance section specs, it's because, it turns out, Bernie Sanders is, indeed, one of their own: a man who failed to earn a decent paycheck for actual work until almost his 40th birthday.

    Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off.

    So, basically, Bernie Sanders was that jobless friend who hangs around coffee shops where he cons you into buying his drink, only to talk your ear off about how amazing Che Guevara was, and how he's living off the grid in an apartment without flooring or heat because he doesn't trust The Man because The Man is totally in the pocket of corporate America, even though you're meeting in a Starbucks and his order was way more complicated than yours. Every once in a while he mentions running for office, but it's usually left as a pipe dream because he's too lazy to ever get around to forming up a campaign, so he hangs out in his basement or yours, writing terrible stories for his "alternative political 'zine" and scouring thrift stores for drab, vaguely militaristic clothing.

    http://spectator.org/blog/65498/bernie-sanders-didnt-make-paycheck-until-he-turned-40
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    Feb 17, 2016 2:53 PM GMT
    Those who can't - work in government.

    Some words from last generation's Bernie:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/06/14/how-to-create-jobs-by-george-mcgovern

    After leaving the Senate in 1981, McGovern hit the lecture circuit and in 1988 decided to invest his speaking fees in the Stratford Inn in Connecticut. He loved the idea of running a hotel. It went bankrupt a few years later, thanks in large part to the withering recession of 1990-91. But the experience gave McGovern new wisdom on how little politicians understand the arduous task of job creation.
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    Feb 17, 2016 5:50 PM GMT


    “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.” - Walter Mondale... A statement credited with giving him his landslide loss.
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    Feb 17, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
    The American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:04 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:32 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:34 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.

    Biden is considered by many to be the most likely replacement after a Clinton indictment and/or pardon. But speaking of being delusional:

    Clinton 394 delegates
    Sanders 44 delegates

    Two points: 1) Sanders won't be the nominee, 2) The Democrat Party is corrupt
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.

    Biden is considered by many to be the most likely replacement after a Clinton indictment and/or pardon. But speaking of being delusional:

    Clinton 394 delegates
    Sanders 44 delegates

    Two points: 1) Sanders won't be the nominee, 2) The Democrat Party is corrupt

    You said Obama would never be president when we were in this same situation 8 years ago. I'll be looking forward to Sanders winning, but I promise not to gloat too much!!!icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 17, 2016 7:52 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.

    Biden is considered by many to be the most likely replacement after a Clinton indictment and/or pardon. But speaking of being delusional:

    Clinton 394 delegates
    Sanders 44 delegates

    Two points: 1) Sanders won't be the nominee, 2) The Democrat Party is corrupt

    You said Obama would never be president when we were in this same situation 8 years ago. I'll be looking forward to Sanders winning, but I promise not to gloat too much!!!icon_lol.gif

    Never made any prediction about Obama.
  • HottJoe

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    Feb 17, 2016 7:54 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.

    Biden is considered by many to be the most likely replacement after a Clinton indictment and/or pardon. But speaking of being delusional:

    Clinton 394 delegates
    Sanders 44 delegates

    Two points: 1) Sanders won't be the nominee, 2) The Democrat Party is corrupt

    You said Obama would never be president when we were in this same situation 8 years ago. I'll be looking forward to Sanders winning, but I promise not to gloat too much!!!icon_lol.gif

    Never made any prediction about Obama.

    OK, so you'd rather lie than concede the point. I wouldn't expect anything less from you.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 17, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
    So the Democrats have a choice between a guy with $300k in assets and $56,000 of credit card debt...or a woman who is owned by Wall st. banks.
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    Feb 18, 2016 1:56 AM GMT
    S2Ki saidSo the Democrats have a choice between a guy with $300k in assets and $56,000 of credit card debt...or a woman who is owned by Wall st. banks.

    The GOP wants a beauty pageant owner/pimp who declares bankruptcy left and right and evades taxes. Yay, criminals!
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    Feb 18, 2016 1:58 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    HottJoe said I'll be looking forward to Sanders winning, but I promise not to gloat too much!!!icon_lol.gif


    Joe, THE FIX IS IN. Hillary and the DNC have sewn up the nomination. The only way she won't be the nominee is if she is indicted or she drops out for "health reasons" in which case the DNC will pick someone other than Sanders to be the nominee.


    The DNC doesn't get to have its cake and eat it too. If they undermine their voters they will become as irrelevant as the GOP.
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    Feb 18, 2016 1:59 AM GMT
    Superdelegates were created in reaction to Democrats choosing nominees who were out of step with party leadership, like George McGovern (1972) and Jimmy Carter (1976). Party leaders would have dearly loved to stop McGovern in particular, but had no mechanism to do it.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/129707/superdelegates-really-stop-bernie-sanders
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    Feb 18, 2016 2:01 AM GMT
    desertmuscl saidMembers of the party establishment could talk themselves into believing that by throwing support to Clinton and denying a socialist control of the top of the ticket, they were saving the party rather than destroying it.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/129707/superdelegates-really-stop-bernie-sanders

    The GOP isn't even trying to stop Trump anymore, because right behind him is Cruz.icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 18, 2016 2:41 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe said
    socalfitness said
    HottJoe saidThe American people are making their voices heard. Sanders has the majority of support, and he's going to be the next POTUS!!!

    But don't worry, Trump supporters, you can still drown your sorrows and lose your shirts at a Trump casino!!

    Sanders won't be the nominee because the Democratic Party is rigged for who the party elite favors. Currently Clinton, likely Biden.

    Doesn't take much imagination to see why you favor Sanders.

    You keep bringing up Biden, which shows how delusional you are.... I guess stupidity is to be expected from Trump supporters.

    Look at the polls, and it's clear that Sanders is most likely to be the next POTUS.

    Biden is considered by many to be the most likely replacement after a Clinton indictment and/or pardon. But speaking of being delusional:

    Clinton 394 delegates
    Sanders 44 delegates

    Two points: 1) Sanders won't be the nominee, 2) The Democrat Party is corrupt

    You said Obama would never be president when we were in this same situation 8 years ago. I'll be looking forward to Sanders winning, but I promise not to gloat too much!!!icon_lol.gif

    Never made any prediction about Obama.

    OK, so you'd rather lie than concede the point. I wouldn't expect anything less from you.icon_rolleyes.gif

    I never said Obama would not be president. I always thought things were too close to call, and everything depended on the voter turnout, which has always been hard to predict.

    I would normally be offended by you calling me a liar, but I know you're not there in the "upstairs department", so not offended.
  • TheBaise

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    Feb 18, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
    All the cool dudes hear no to vote for the Bern! C'mon / we get more from the Bern! He's gonna let the fat cats on Wall Street have it right where the sun don't shine. There getting there taxes raised high with the Bern. He promised!
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    Feb 18, 2016 5:50 PM GMT
    TheBaise saidAll the cool dudes hear no to vote for the Bern! C'mon / we get more from the Bern! He's gonna let the fat cats on Wall Street have it right where the sun don't shine. There getting there taxes raised high with the Bern. He promised!

    Considering they evade taxes under the "establishment," getting them to pay anything would be progress.icon_idea.gif

    Let's "Bern" Wall Street!!!
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    socalfitness said...if it turns out that the "takers" of the world are seeing their own reflection in Bernie's LensCrafters clearance section specs, it's because, it turns out, Bernie Sanders is, indeed, one of their own: a man who failed to earn a decent paycheck for actual work until almost his 40th birthday.

    Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.

    “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

    Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

    One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

    Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

    Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

    The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off.

    So, basically, Bernie Sanders was that jobless friend who hangs around coffee shops where he cons you into buying his drink, only to talk your ear off about how amazing Che Guevara was, and how he's living off the grid in an apartment without flooring or heat because he doesn't trust The Man because The Man is totally in the pocket of corporate America, even though you're meeting in a Starbucks and his order was way more complicated than yours. Every once in a while he mentions running for office, but it's usually left as a pipe dream because he's too lazy to ever get around to forming up a campaign, so he hangs out in his basement or yours, writing terrible stories for his "alternative political 'zine" and scouring thrift stores for drab, vaguely militaristic clothing.

    http://spectator.org/blog/65498/bernie-sanders-didnt-make-paycheck-until-he-turned-40

    I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear it, but I agree with all of this. Sanders is a rabble-rousing parasite. An old-school socialist, akin to a communist. And a lot like Trump, insofar as being a noise maker with no substance. The kind of "reality show" freak attraction that sadly can seduce many US American voters these days.
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    Feb 18, 2016 6:24 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI'm sure you'll be shocked to hear it, but I agree with all of this. Sanders is a rabble-rousing parasite. An old-school socialist, akin to a communist. And a lot like Trump, insofar as being a noise maker with no substance. The kind of "reality show" freak attraction that many US American voters are sadly seduced by these days.

    Not surprised that you agree, but a bit surprised that you posted it. Most progressives have kept quiet and allowed the cause be taken up by those who are more emotional and less analytical (polite for thinking).

    More Democratic Economists Come Out Against Sanders Economic Plan

    Included in this group is Austan Goolsbee, former economic advisor to Obama and currently professor at University of Chicago. Goolsbee characterized the Sanders Plan as “evolved into magic flying puppies with winning Lotto tickets tied to their collars.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/18/more-democratic-economists-come-out-against-sanders-economic-plan/
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    Feb 18, 2016 6:33 PM GMT
    I think the Bernie Sanders phenomenon, especially his popularity among millennials, results from a combination of naiveté and pessimism. The former is like a college student who has a credit card from Dad and has been given the freedom to buy whatever, completely oblivious to the fact that Dad gets a bill that must either be paid or added to Dad's debt.

    As far as pessimism, I think the following article is appropriate. Worth a complete read, but the tl;dr is below (probably even this is too long):

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    In December 2015, the Washington Post reported that forty-eight percent of my generation (millennials) believe that the American Dream is dead. It is not a crazy belief – given the effects of wage stagnation, student debt, and a shrinking middle class, it is unsurprising the traditional benchmarks of adulthood, like getting married and buying a home, appear so far out of reach for millennials. It seems whenever our ostensibly bleak economic prospects are coupled with our teetering ability to gain the much-needed approval of older generations, we cannot help but view our futures so dubiously. Perhaps this is why millennials are the most medicated, depressed, and anxious generation in recent history.

    So what should we millennials do about it?

    On the one hand, we could brand ourselves "democratic socialists," blame our parents, scorn corporations, and deride capitalism. We could wallow in our apparent inability to thrive absent taxpayer-backed college, health care, minimum wages, and "safe zones." We could avoid building resilience, cling fervently to the questionable precept of intersectionality, and hand off to our children a gargantuan expansion of the national debt and federal bureaucracy.

    Then again, we could acknowledge that economic mobility is no worse than it was fifty years ago and that no generation in history was as ideally situated to realize the American Dream as we are. We could take a page out of Pat’s and Billie’s book, rethink what opportunity means, and perhaps find the personal satisfaction we crave by building something from nothing, rather than chasing down the increasingly hollow credentials of "achievement" that seem to define our generation.

    Indeed, we could live up to our reputation of "everybody gets a trophy," or we could find our own hog farm, roll up our sleeves, and discover a prize truly reflective of what we have earned.

    I hope we make the right call.

    Maybe we millennials should rethink socialism
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/maybe_we_milleanials_should_rethink_socialism.html
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    Feb 18, 2016 6:38 PM GMT
    I'd trust Sanders over Trump, Clinton, Bush, Rubio or the Antichrist himself Cruz.
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    Feb 25, 2016 4:54 PM GMT
    DOMINUS said in another threadI wouldn't say young Americans are "terrifyingly liberal." I'd say, however, that many (but not all) young Americans are terrifyingly uninformed and, to some extent, terrifyingly intellectually lazy. I think that will change (hopefully) in time as they mature. Also, this may well be attributable to our increasing reliance on the Internet--we've become independent research-lazy, simply relying on what's available on the Internet without independently confirming or validating its accuracy.

    Valid points. Also the thread where this was posted had a post that stated what a hard worker Sanders is. This thread shows Sanders' background.