BREAKING: Georgia Governor Says He Will Veto Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Bill

  • metta

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    Feb 22, 2016 7:27 AM GMT
    BREAKING: Georgia Governor Says He Will Veto Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Bill


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/breaking_georgia_governor_vetoes_anti_gay_religious_freedom_bill






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    Tech company to leave Georgia after religious freedom bill passed

    The co-founder of 373K Kelvin Williams wants to prevent the company's tax dollars from supporting a state that he believes encourages discrimination.
    "That's just something that we can't live with," Williams said.


    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/tech-company-leave-georgia-after-religious-freedom/nqTtN/
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 22, 2016 2:18 PM GMT
    Oh well, Georgia allows itself to be run by the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs so I guess it is going to suffer economic losses for that horrible decision. Similar to Indiana which obviously doesn't care about its financial health and its economy. Oh well, life goes on.
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    Feb 22, 2016 3:27 PM GMT
    I'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.

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    Feb 22, 2016 3:54 PM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    I'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has nothing to do with it.

    The company President makes a clear case for their move, which is announced immediately after this legislative action, no serious planning for it yet done. There's no indication this was being previously contemplated, until this law came along.

    And there are 2 issues here: yes, Nevada could look attractive from a tax viewpoint. But other States have the same. And some even higher than Georgia. So that incurring all the practical expenses of a relocation, and disrupting the business solely to avoid a 6% rate, would be more costly than remaining. I think it was less a case of Nevada seducing this company than Georgia having lost them for other compelling reasons than merely tax rate.

    Because from a quality of life standpoint, and retaining quality tech employees and being able to recruit more of them for future company growth, Georgia may now be a liability. At least to this kind of company with their employee profile.
  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 22, 2016 5:08 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidI'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.


    This is Republican horse shit. The guy announced clearly why he's taking the company elsewhere and you look for reasons to see a hidden agenda? Are you homophobic? Besides, I've lived in zero income tax states and I've lived in 6%. It takes a certain amount of cash to run a state and unless you get it from some unusual windfall (like Alaska had) then ultimately you'll get it from somewhere. In Florida (zero income tax) it comes from property taxes. Alabama has 6% but low property tax. Some like sales tax. At least income taxes aren't regressive.
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    Feb 22, 2016 5:28 PM GMT
    Kelvin Williams: yet another Liberal Hypocrite.

    He continues to do business in Morocco where gays are imprisoned.

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    Feb 22, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    desertmuscl saidI'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.


    This is Republican horse shit. The guy announced clearly why he's taking the company elsewhere and you look for reasons to see a hidden agenda? Are you homophobic? Besides, I've lived in zero income tax states and I've lived in 6%. It takes a certain amount of cash to run a state and unless you get it from some unusual windfall (like Alaska had) then ultimately you'll get it from somewhere. In Florida (zero income tax) it comes from property taxes. Alabama has 6% but low property tax. Some like sales tax. At least income taxes aren't regressive.


    Moves from one state to another happens for this reason all of the time. A successful businessman would see this as a consideration - in this case not the only one.

    Typically businesses and individuals will move from New York, Illinois, California, Connecticut, and Massachusetts to Texas, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Arizona for tax reasons.

    Those migrating left behind Democrat-dominated states in favor of Republican-run states.

    For example in 2013 Democrat-run states lost a net 226,763 taxpayers, bringing with them nearly $15.7 billion in adjusted gross income (AGI). That same year, states with Republican governors gained nearly 220,000 new taxpayers, who brought more than $14.1 billion in AGI with them.



  • Destinharbor

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    Feb 22, 2016 6:27 PM GMT
    Companies move for business tax incentives and usually move again once the temporary incentives are exhausted screwing the locals that paid for their presence. Individual tax rates seldom have any impact. The moves have generally been to warmer states because costs are low and land is cheap. But not all. GE just relocated to Boston and California is #1 on the list for tech.
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    Destinharbor saidCompanies move for business tax incentives and usually move again once the temporary incentives are exhausted screwing the locals that paid for their presence. Individual tax rates seldom have any impact. The moves have generally been to warmer states because costs are low and land is cheap. But not all. GE just relocated to Boston and California is #1 on the list for tech.

    Yes. But Boston & Mass. offered lower taxes than Connecticut, and there's a lot of appealing incentives for GE for moving to Boston. GE has warned Connecticut to be "friendlier" with their tax policy.
    And California has lots of tech companies, I think because there are lots of talents there, and close to lots of VC companies. Highly skilled talents in tech will most likely enjoy California weather and liberal society.
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    Feb 22, 2016 9:38 PM GMT
    "purely a business decision" works both ways I guess.

    Toyota America sold out the LGBT community and moved to anti gay Texas, knowing full well the state is extremely unfriendly and would clash with its own internal employment policies. But the powers that be at Toyota, didn't care, they didn't care about the people that buy their, now, shit cars and trucks.

    Why a company with a long history of LGBT, diversity and friendliness would move to a place that does not. That would be the same if Ford Motor Company moved its headquarters to Houston Texas.

    Might I remind everyone, that ITS TOYOTA'S LOSS. The company could only get 30% of its SoCal workforce to relocate to Texas. Read between the lines here, 70% of SoCal Toyota workers have said, 'fuck you' to your business decision which have consequences. If you don't know, the hiring process, of this many people, is extremely expensive, that much talent takes years to acquire and to retain. Toyota America will have difficulty replacing its workforce in Texas if they want to keep the same workplace polices and or advertise diversity without hiring bootlicking KKK members.

    I highly doubt Toyota of Texas will ever be as successful as Toyota of California. Year after year, team Toyota was in the top 5 LA Aids Walk fund raising goal. Although, the total APLA funds raised were about a million dollars short of usual for 2015. Toyota's move has had a negative impact on fund raising across the Aids Walk board. I will never buy a Toyota product in the future, stupid decisions that benefit a select few have consequences icon_mad.gif


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  • Svnw688

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    Feb 23, 2016 4:32 AM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    desertmuscl saidI'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.


    This is Republican horse shit. The guy announced clearly why he's taking the company elsewhere and you look for reasons to see a hidden agenda? Are you homophobic? Besides, I've lived in zero income tax states and I've lived in 6%. It takes a certain amount of cash to run a state and unless you get it from some unusual windfall (like Alaska had) then ultimately you'll get it from somewhere. In Florida (zero income tax) it comes from property taxes. Alabama has 6% but low property tax. Some like sales tax. At least income taxes aren't regressive.


    Spot on.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 23, 2016 8:27 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    Destinharbor said
    desertmuscl saidI'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.


    This is Republican horse shit. The guy announced clearly why he's taking the company elsewhere and you look for reasons to see a hidden agenda? Are you homophobic? Besides, I've lived in zero income tax states and I've lived in 6%. It takes a certain amount of cash to run a state and unless you get it from some unusual windfall (like Alaska had) then ultimately you'll get it from somewhere. In Florida (zero income tax) it comes from property taxes. Alabama has 6% but low property tax. Some like sales tax. At least income taxes aren't regressive.


    Spot on.
    You love republican horse shiticon_lol.gif
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    Feb 26, 2016 5:53 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    Destinharbor said
    desertmuscl saidI'm sure the fact that NV have no corp or individual income tax while GA's is 6% has very little to do with it.


    This is Republican horse shit. The guy announced clearly why he's taking the company elsewhere and you look for reasons to see a hidden agenda? Are you homophobic? Besides, I've lived in zero income tax states and I've lived in 6%. It takes a certain amount of cash to run a state and unless you get it from some unusual windfall (like Alaska had) then ultimately you'll get it from somewhere. In Florida (zero income tax) it comes from property taxes. Alabama has 6% but low property tax. Some like sales tax. At least income taxes aren't regressive.


    Moves from one state to another happens for this reason all of the time. A successful businessman would see this as a consideration - in this case not the only one.

    Typically businesses and individuals will move from New York, Illinois, California, Connecticut, and Massachusetts to Texas, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Arizona for tax reasons.

    Those migrating left behind Democrat-dominated states in favor of Republican-run states.

    For example in 2013 Democrat-run states lost a net 226,763 taxpayers, bringing with them nearly $15.7 billion in adjusted gross income (AGI). That same year, states with Republican governors gained nearly 220,000 new taxpayers, who brought more than $14.1 billion in AGI with them.





    Hmm, could it be something about all those southern and southwestern states being Right To Work states?

    Companies go there because they can pay lower wages and less benefits as labor laws are heavily skewed in favor of the employer; not the employee.

    Democrat states appear to be more union accommodating and employees have more rights.

    Personally I lived in the south (Greenville SC and Atlanta Ga) for a cumulative total of 1.5 years and being from NYC it caught my attention that unlike up here in the north where employment applications clearly indicate it's illegal to discriminate based upon one's sexual orientation, employment applications in the south don't indicate a peep about it. Thus it seems safe to say that if you're suspected of being gay, in such states you can be discriminated against without a leg to stand on.

    Glad I left from down there.
  • metta

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    Mar 25, 2016 2:09 AM GMT
    AMC's 'Walking Dead' Joins Disney & Marvel Against Georgia's Anti-LGBT Bill

    http://www.edgemedianetwork.com/news/national/news//195347/amcs_walking_dead_joins_disney_&_marvel_against_georgias_anti-lgbt_bill
  • metta

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    Mar 28, 2016 2:47 PM GMT
    BREAKING: Georgia Governor Says He Will Veto Anti-Gay 'Religious Freedom' Bill


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/breaking_georgia_governor_vetoes_anti_gay_religious_freedom_bill
  • rnch

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    Mar 28, 2016 3:58 PM GMT
    The Gov is smarter than his state legislature.
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    Mar 28, 2016 9:50 PM GMT
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    rnch saidThe Gov is smarter than his state legislature.


    actually this is more likely the case:

    as I posted in another thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4198187 in response to the following article being ridiculously cited as a reason to think the GOP cool now lol.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/28/us/georgia-north-carolina-lgbt-bills/index.html
    Atlanta (CNN) — Under increasing pressure from major corporations that do business in Georgia, Gov. Nathan Deal announced Monday he will veto a bill"


    So after wormy GOPorgians luxuriated in degrading gay community with their proposed discriminatory bill, the spineless wonders then pandered to their corporate overlords.

    Yet another proud moment for the GOP.

    Sorry, their declining to pass that bill gets no props after using the bill to prop up their bigotry. Even without the signature, they can continue to go fuck themselves. I'd rather the governor had signed and let the chips fall where they may.

    Saving us from the fire is no measure of being magnanimous when they've just dragged us through the mud. Fuck the GOP.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 29, 2016 1:40 AM GMT
    This is a very good move on the governors part. Now if only the legislature would wise up and stop pandering to all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs.