Liberals Think More Analytically Than Conservatives

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    Feb 22, 2016 5:57 PM GMT
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    In five studies with more than 5,000 participants, we found that liberals think more analytically...than moderates and conservatives. Study 3 replicates this finding in the very different political culture of China, although it held only for people in more modernized urban centers. These results suggest that liberals and conservatives in the same country think as if they were from different cultures. Studies 4 to 5 show that briefly training people to think analytically causes them to form more liberal opinions...


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  • HottJoe

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    Feb 22, 2016 6:36 PM GMT
    I think Trump supporters should only get half a vote, since they only have half the intelligence of the general population.... and that's being generous!
  • gymnerd

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    Feb 22, 2016 6:53 PM GMT
    Does this explain why compromise seems so impossible? People from different political camps literally think differently...?
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    Feb 22, 2016 6:58 PM GMT
    Pew Research has carried out similar surveys over the last 10 years. Conclusion: Conservatives are not as intelligent as liberals.

    That idiot SouthBeach is testament to and confirm the results
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    Feb 22, 2016 8:00 PM GMT
    LOL IDIOT LIBERAL LEMMINGS? LOL
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    Feb 22, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
    Blondizgd saidPew Research has carried out similar surveys over the last 10 years. Conclusion: Conservatives are not as intelligent as liberals.

    That idiot SouthBeach is testament to and confirm the results


    SB is actually one of their deeper thinkers.
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    I don't know about Pew but I think I recall a study that showed on average Republicans about a point or two higher in IQ than Democrats (I don't know the validity of that or if it has been retested) but even that result was qualified by that Liberal Republicans blew the Conservative Republicans out of the IQ water and that results were found to be more economically situational than ideological. That the wealthier had better educations and tended to vote Republican. And it was just a slight difference in any case.

    But someone can have a large IQ yet still be an idiot. Like, perhaps, someone suffering autism or any random pompous lawyer suffering dementia. What I found interesting about this study is its suggestion in the difference of how people think. My observation has long been that conservative Republicans tend to not show very good critical thinking skills (they're more into magical thinking--climate denial--saying Trump didn't mean what he said--etc etc) and this seems to show that.

    gymnerd saidDoes this explain why compromise seems so impossible? People from different political camps literally think differently...?


    Yeah, difficult at least. And I thought that was real interesting (and why I bolded it), this idea that different ways of thinking are likened to being from different cultures though born to the same country.

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    Feb 22, 2016 8:37 PM GMT
    This studies are being generous. I wasn't aware that conservatives could think at ALL.
  • mar0302

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    Feb 22, 2016 8:58 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    Blondizgd saidPew Research has carried out similar surveys over the last 10 years. Conclusion: Conservatives are not as intelligent as liberals.

    That idiot SouthBeach is testament to and confirm the results


    SB is actually one of their deeper thinkers.
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    I don't know about Pew but I think I recall a study that showed on average Republicans about a point or two higher in IQ than Democrats (I don't know the validity of that or if it has been retested) but even that result was qualified by that Liberal Republicans blew the Conservative Republicans out of the IQ water and that results were found to be more economically situational than ideological. That the wealthier had better educations and tended to vote Republican. And it was just a slight difference in any case.

    But someone can have a large IQ yet still be an idiot. Like, perhaps, someone suffering autism or any random pompous lawyer suffering dementia. What I found interesting about this study is its suggestion in the difference of how people think. My observation has long been that conservative Republicans tend to not show very good critical thinking skills (they're more into magical thinking--climate denial--saying Trump didn't mean what he said--etc etc) and this seems to show that.

    gymnerd saidDoes this explain why compromise seems so impossible? People from different political camps literally think differently...?


    Yeah, difficult at least. And I thought that was real interesting (and why I bolded it), this idea that different ways of thinking are likened to being from different cultures though born to the same country.



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  • HottJoe

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    Feb 22, 2016 9:00 PM GMT
    So, if Trump wins, what does that say about the majority of U.S. voters?icon_neutral.gif
  • ASHDOD

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    Feb 22, 2016 9:14 PM GMT
    The question is, does thinking analytically brings you to the right conclusions? maybe there are other qualities that are important to make the right decision.
    being wondering about that for awhile, where here in Israel, the scholars that got it right in political science for example,came from the conservative pessimistic side.
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    Feb 22, 2016 9:19 PM GMT
    Blondizgd saidPew Research has carried out similar surveys over the last 10 years. Conclusion: Conservatives are not as intelligent as liberals.

    That idiot SouthBeach is testament to and confirm the results


    Ad hominem much?

    Intelligence is not the problem. Everyone should be all for intelligence. Condescension and deception are the problem with many liberals. It is viewed as an entitlement and is a fatal conceit of liberalism. Jonathan Gruber is one of the poster boys.

    Gruber’s several videotaped remarks about the gross deceptions that got Obamacare passed in Congress should tell us a lot about the Obama administration. The mainstream media hesitated for days to even mention what Professor Gruber said...
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    Feb 22, 2016 9:25 PM GMT
    To properly understand these kinds of studies, one should realize they are based on populations and do not imply those characteristics are necessarily shared among all groups of adherents to the philosophy.

    A similar study was performed on a sample of Fox viewers.

    For example, if 80% of those who label themselves or are somehow considered conservative are not highly analytical thinkers, that has no bearing on the 20% who are analytical thinkers.

    To apply this roughly to RJ, it is apparent that most of the RJ members who are labeled conservative (at least fiscally conservative), think analytically. Some liberal members do as well, but most of the non-thinking, emotional blurbs come from liberals.
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    Feb 22, 2016 9:28 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidThis studies are being generous. I wasn't aware that conservatives could think at ALL.


    Analytic vs. Holistic thinking is the differentiation being discussed. The OP did not cite any source.

    One of the most common distinctions in the literature on cognitive style is between analytic and holistic styles. Analytic thinking involves understanding a system by thinking about its parts and how they work together to produce larger-scale effects. Holistic thinking involves understanding a system by sensing its large-scale patterns and reacting to them.

    Although in my observation of analytical thinkers I know many of them to be conservative. So I don't think it is possible to see this in black and white terms.


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    Feb 22, 2016 10:22 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidThis studies are being generous. I wasn't aware that conservatives could think at ALL.


    Analytic vs. Holistic thinking is the differentiation being discussed. The OP did not cite any source.

    One of the most common distinctions in the literature on cognitive style is between analytic and holistic styles. Analytic thinking involves understanding a system by thinking about its parts and how they work together to produce larger-scale effects. Holistic thinking involves understanding a system by sensing its large-scale patterns and reacting to them.

    Although in my observation of analytical thinkers I know many of them to be conservative. So I don't think it is possible to see this in black and white terms.


    Thank you for providing such a perfect sampling of typical Republican behavior.

    I not only cited a source, I linked and blocked the quote under it to show it cited and for your clickable convenience, about which apparently you did click by that holistic mention about which you don't seem to understand but used as if you did anyway, and used as if you'd come up with that on your own.

    But you didn't Blanche, did ya? Instead you plagiarized another source presenting it as your own intellect, didn't you?

    http://www.intropsych.com/ch07_cognition/analytic_vs_holistic_thinking.html
    One of the most common distinctions in the literature on cognitive style is between analytic and holistic styles.


    So, not to be condescending, but, let's face it, you've just shown yourself to be a fraudulent plagiarist who gets an F for the course. You may repay your fees next semester and try again.

    As to that conservatives can be analytical, again, typical Republican. No one said, not me as the OP, not the study, no one said anything is black and white.

    In fact, the very title of the thread uses a little qualifier "More". It doesn't say one is only this and the other only that. It says one is more. So you bullshitted your way into that too.

    Being more analytical, more self critical could have prevented your shameful behavior of lying about what I'd done, of mischaracterizing what the study says and most importantly of plagiarizing about what you feigned knowing.

    That's not condescension. That's the critical truth.
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    Feb 22, 2016 10:27 PM GMT
    mar0302 said
    theantijock said
    Blondizgd saidPew Research has carried out similar surveys over the last 10 years. Conclusion: Conservatives are not as intelligent as liberals.

    That idiot SouthBeach is testament to and confirm the results


    SB is actually one of their deeper thinkers.
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    I don't know about Pew but I think I recall a study that showed on average Republicans about a point or two higher in IQ than Democrats (I don't know the validity of that or if it has been retested) but even that result was qualified by that Liberal Republicans blew the Conservative Republicans out of the IQ water and that results were found to be more economically situational than ideological. That the wealthier had better educations and tended to vote Republican. And it was just a slight difference in any case.

    But someone can have a large IQ yet still be an idiot. Like, perhaps, someone suffering autism or any random pompous lawyer suffering dementia. What I found interesting about this study is its suggestion in the difference of how people think. My observation has long been that conservative Republicans tend to not show very good critical thinking skills (they're more into magical thinking--climate denial--saying Trump didn't mean what he said--etc etc) and this seems to show that.

    gymnerd saidDoes this explain why compromise seems so impossible? People from different political camps literally think differently...?


    Yeah, difficult at least. And I thought that was real interesting (and why I bolded it), this idea that different ways of thinking are likened to being from different cultures though born to the same country.



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    Feb 22, 2016 10:54 PM GMT
    Awesome. A study that indicates Liberals are anal. Bend over and be proud Liberals.
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    Feb 22, 2016 10:55 PM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    Art_Deco saidThis studies are being generous. I wasn't aware that conservatives could think at ALL.

    Analytic vs. Holistic thinking is the differentiation being discussed. The OP did not cite any source.

    One of the most common distinctions in the literature on cognitive style is between analytic and holistic styles. Analytic thinking involves understanding a system by thinking about its parts and how they work together to produce larger-scale effects. Holistic thinking involves understanding a system by sensing its large-scale patterns and reacting to them.

    Although in my observation of analytical thinkers I know many of them to be conservative. So I don't think it is possible to see this in black and white terms.

    Now more seriously. I used to privately correspond with William F. Buckley, Jr. I presume you know he was one of the leading Conservatives in the US. I also had engaged with Buckley's booking agent, exploring the possibility of arranging a speaking engagement for my political group.

    Despite the disinformation being spread by southbeach1500 about the speaking engagements of Hillary Clinton, groups try to make money for themselves with these things. Yeah, these people charge high speaking fees (Buckley's were very high), but the idea is to use their celebrity appeal to warrant even higher ticket prices, to make a profit for the inviting group.

    My plans didn't pan out, because Buckley's fees frightened the other members, who questioned if we could make that work. We never invited him.

    Too bad, I think we could have drawn on lots of Conservatives to attend. As was sometimes said of Buckley, he had one of the finest minds of the 13th Century, an irresistible attraction for US Conservatives.
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    Feb 23, 2016 1:23 AM GMT
    I'll take conservative pragmatism & reality over intelligence quotients any day! Funny, I have an IQ greater than 140, and I somehow manage to blend intellectualism with pragmatism through the realities of conservative thought.

    Oh and Liberals: since you love your (diluted) concepts so much, just get up and move to the "former" USSR i.e. Russia, China, Venezuela and other 2nd/3rd world countries who have embraced deep protectionism, socialism, liberalism and a one party state! They work out fabulously!

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    Feb 23, 2016 1:25 AM GMT
    So why do these Liberals accept money and/or jewelry from someone who stones gays to death:
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    Feb 23, 2016 1:33 AM GMT
    naturalmuscle01 saidI'll take conservative pragmatism & reality over intelligence quotients any day! Funny, I have an IQ greater than 140, and I somehow manage to blend intellectualism with pragmatism through the realities of conservative thought.

    Oh and Liberals: since you love your (diluted) concepts so much, just get up and move to the "former" USSR i.e. Russia, China, Venezuela and other 2nd/3rd world countries who have embraced deep protectionism, socialism, liberalism and a one party state! They work out fabulously!



    China is probably the most powerful country economically and militarily in the world. 1st world.
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    Feb 23, 2016 1:54 AM GMT
    that's why mathematicians are the most conservative segment of academia? That's why most doctors and engineers are conservative? That's why men are more conservative than women? Judging by intuitive notions of "analytical", this feels false.
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    naturalmuscle01 saidI'll take conservative pragmatism & reality over intelligence quotients any day! Funny, I have an IQ greater than 140, and I somehow manage to blend intellectualism with pragmatism through the realities of conservative thought.

    Oh and Liberals: since you love your (diluted) concepts so much, just get up and move to the "former" USSR i.e. Russia, China, Venezuela and other 2nd/3rd world countries who have embraced deep protectionism, socialism, liberalism and a one party state! They work out fabulously!



    China is probably the most powerful country economically and militarily in the world. 1st world.


    The mention of China raises an interesting point.... Research on cultural differences between East Asians (Japanese, Korean, and Chinese in most studies) and Western Europeans/Americans (mostly Americans) have shown, among other things, that westerners tend to reason analytically, while East Asians tend to reason more holistically. This means, among other things, that westerners tend to pay more attention to focal objects at the expense of context, while East Asians pay more attention to context. It also means that, when attributing causes to events, westerners generally focus on a few causes directly related to the event, while East Asians focus on the wider context, and a larger number of causal influences.

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    Feb 23, 2016 2:15 AM GMT
    KJSharp saidthat's why mathematicians are the most conservative segment of academia? That's why most doctors and engineers are conservative? That's why men are more conservative than women? Judging by intuitive notions of "analytical", this feels false.

    Exactly. The point I was trying to make above is there may be a population segment that impacts the aggregate results, but are meaningless outside that population segment.
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    Feb 23, 2016 2:23 AM GMT
    Liberals Think More Analytically Than Conservatives

    = = =

    They are allowed to think wider.

    In one of my fields of interest, religion, conservatives are not allowed to think outside the box. I got an email the other day from a Methodist church where a small group leader said, we can have "open" discussion but only from within the Methodist tradition.
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    Feb 23, 2016 2:23 AM GMT
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/upshot/doctors-arent-strongly-republican-anymore.html?_r=0
    Doctors Aren’t Strongly Republican Anymore


    http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
    shows:
    physicians 53 Democrats for every 47 Republicans with the sub-category of physician-scientists at 90 Democrats to 10 Republicans

    The Republicans have more urologists

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    78 Democrats for every 22 Republicans


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