Noam Chomsky: We Owe the Rise of Trump to Fear and the 'Breakdown of Society'. Leading GOP candidate is taking advantage of America's fears.

  • metta

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    Feb 25, 2016 6:51 PM GMT
    Noam Chomsky: We Owe the Rise of Trump to Fear and the 'Breakdown of Society'

    Leading GOP candidate is taking advantage of America's fears.

    "Fear, along with the breakdown of society during the neoliberal period. People feel isolated, helpless, victim of powerful forces that they do not understand and cannot influence. It’s interesting to compare the situation in the ‘30s, which I’m old enough to remember. Objectively, poverty and suffering were far greater. But even among poor working people and the unemployed, there was a sense of hope that is lacking now, in large part because of the growth of a militant labor movement and also the existence of political organizations outside the mainstream."


    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/noam-chomsky-we-owe-rise-trump-fear-and-breakdown-society
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    Feb 26, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
    For me it's the collapse of the Democratic Party as morally superior force . Hillary is as evil as Trump probably more so the; difference is she is a compulsive liar.

    I've never been too worried about government but Obama's attack on Apple is truly scary.
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    Feb 26, 2016 4:19 PM GMT
    I cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
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    Feb 26, 2016 6:37 PM GMT
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.
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    Feb 26, 2016 6:44 PM GMT
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?

    I agree with this, but I also believe that electing Bernie Sanders could make this a much better country for everyone in our diverse society.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 26, 2016 7:22 PM GMT
    robbaker saidYes fear the wrath of trump! icon_twisted.gif
    Oh there is bald, penis head flapping his jaws in the breeze endlesslyicon_razz.gif
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    Feb 27, 2016 2:05 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.


    american "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    It is an extremely VIOLENT, parasitic society that allows the wealthy to exploit, kill and abuse the "lower classes." It's foundations are completely rotten to the core, agreeable only to those who are allowed to continue their parasitic behaviors.

    If Bernie Sanders is elected and his plan put into place, this regime's economy will absolutely collapse. The parasitic wealthy, now forced to ACTUALLY PAY TAXES AND NOT HIDE THEIR MONEY IN INCREASINGLY SECRETIVE OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, will simply jump ship and go to other countries where they can continue to exploit. They will not accept any financial responsibility to any government.

    Their mindset:
    "We give your middle and lower classes jobs, and in return you DON'T tax us. We're bringing 'opportunity.'"

    Flip that switch, and it's adios!
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    Feb 27, 2016 2:13 AM GMT
    HardWorkerBL saidamerican "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    Are you serving probation or otherwise not able to leave? If not, why not leave and find yourself some place better suited to your liking.
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    Feb 27, 2016 7:22 PM GMT
    HardWorkerBL said
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.


    american "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    It is an extremely VIOLENT, parasitic society that allows the wealthy to exploit, kill and abuse the "lower classes." It's foundations are completely rotten to the core, agreeable only to those who are allowed to continue their parasitic behaviors.

    If Bernie Sanders is elected and his plan put into place, this regime's economy will absolutely collapse. The parasitic wealthy, now forced to ACTUALLY PAY TAXES AND NOT HIDE THEIR MONEY IN INCREASINGLY SECRETIVE OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, will simply jump ship and go to other countries where they can continue to exploit. They will not accept any financial responsibility to any government.

    Their mindset:
    "We give your middle and lower classes jobs, and in return you DON'T tax us. We're bringing 'opportunity.'"

    Flip that switch, and it's adios!
    Yeah some opportunity, mostly low wage jobs with no benefits, no paid time off, no nothing all because this rich bastards cannot get their fill of money.icon_mad.gif
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    Feb 27, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL said
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.


    american "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    It is an extremely VIOLENT, parasitic society that allows the wealthy to exploit, kill and abuse the "lower classes." It's foundations are completely rotten to the core, agreeable only to those who are allowed to continue their parasitic behaviors.

    If Bernie Sanders is elected and his plan put into place, this regime's economy will absolutely collapse. The parasitic wealthy, now forced to ACTUALLY PAY TAXES AND NOT HIDE THEIR MONEY IN INCREASINGLY SECRETIVE OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, will simply jump ship and go to other countries where they can continue to exploit. They will not accept any financial responsibility to any government.

    Their mindset:
    "We give your middle and lower classes jobs, and in return you DON'T tax us. We're bringing 'opportunity.'"

    Flip that switch, and it's adios!
    Yeah some opportunity, mostly low wage jobs with no benefits, no paid time off, no nothing all because this rich bastards cannot get their fill of money.icon_mad.gif





    Um, isn't this your party that controls corporate america, the ones who want to turn the US into China's economy of zero regulation, extremely low wages and extremely high profits?


  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 27, 2016 9:15 PM GMT
    ELNathB said
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL said
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.


    american "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    It is an extremely VIOLENT, parasitic society that allows the wealthy to exploit, kill and abuse the "lower classes." It's foundations are completely rotten to the core, agreeable only to those who are allowed to continue their parasitic behaviors.

    If Bernie Sanders is elected and his plan put into place, this regime's economy will absolutely collapse. The parasitic wealthy, now forced to ACTUALLY PAY TAXES AND NOT HIDE THEIR MONEY IN INCREASINGLY SECRETIVE OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, will simply jump ship and go to other countries where they can continue to exploit. They will not accept any financial responsibility to any government.

    Their mindset:
    "We give your middle and lower classes jobs, and in return you DON'T tax us. We're bringing 'opportunity.'"

    Flip that switch, and it's adios!
    Yeah some opportunity, mostly low wage jobs with no benefits, no paid time off, no nothing all because this rich bastards cannot get their fill of money.icon_mad.gif





    Um, isn't this your party that controls corporate america, the ones who want to turn the US into China's economy of zero regulation, extremely low wages and extremely high profits?


    The establishment democrats are just as guilty of this horrendous deregulation, low wages, and high profits because they are all bought and owned by the crooks on Wall Street.
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    Feb 27, 2016 9:28 PM GMT
    HardWorkerBL said
    roadbikeRob said
    HardWorkerBL saidI cannot believe people actually buy into the bullshit known as American politics. A system where a joker can claim one position during their "campaign" and do an about face once elected.

    American culture? What? Skin-tone based genocide? Where random, massive shootings occur almost weekly? A usury culture that sees prosperity as locking it's young people into decades of debt for the crime of trying to educate themselves and improve their lives? Where law enforcement individuals plant evidence, falsify reports, murder and lie about it only to recant when a random obscure video recording is found, recorded by individuals whose morality is just that much higher than what's on the typical food chain?
    It is also a society that remains largely racist, xenophobic, and homophobic. It is a society that is highly wasteful and still recycles way less than all other first world and several second world countries. It is a society that has wrongly abandoned most of its cities and now the first ring suburbs and keeps sprawling out on more exurban greenfields with more asphalt pavement, cars, and single family homes which is not sustainable except for the banks, automakers, highway builders, and the home builders.


    american "culture" i consider absolutely revolting. And yes, I absolutely refuse to capitalize the word "american" as that bestows dignity and honor, certainly which it is non-deserving.

    It is an extremely VIOLENT, parasitic society that allows the wealthy to exploit, kill and abuse the "lower classes." It's foundations are completely rotten to the core, agreeable only to those who are allowed to continue their parasitic behaviors.

    If Bernie Sanders is elected and his plan put into place, this regime's economy will absolutely collapse. The parasitic wealthy, now forced to ACTUALLY PAY TAXES AND NOT HIDE THEIR MONEY IN INCREASINGLY SECRETIVE OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS, will simply jump ship and go to other countries where they can continue to exploit. They will not accept any financial responsibility to any government.

    Their mindset:
    "We give your middle and lower classes jobs, and in return you DON'T tax us. We're bringing 'opportunity.'"

    Flip that switch, and it's adios!

    The rich will come and go as they please and make threats and exploit the poor as much as they can. It's been revealed in countless studies that rich people have less empathy, because they're spoiled. They're to blame for all you have said is parasitic about america, they turn poor white people against poor black people (divide and conquer), and then they fleece us when we're not looking.

    It takes courage to stand for a revolution, and I'm not going to let empty threats from the craven elites make me afraid to vote for the candidate that would make america into America, a country that lives up to it's promise.
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    Feb 28, 2016 3:43 AM GMT
    No....they'll be no revolution. Too many people have been fooled by this artificial bubble-world matrix that has people idolizing ave worshipping celebrities rather than focus on the cold reality of their lives:

    The middle and lower classes the rich view as "tools" to be exploited and capitalized on as much as possible. Fund and secure a well armed, hyper-aggressive law enforcement with strict, all encompassing laws to keep them in check and harshly punish whomever attempts to break from the matrix.

    FUCK YOUR MATRIX.
    FUCK YOUR TV.
    FUCK YOUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES- DON'T WANT 'EM, DON'T NEED 'EM.

    I'm going to school overseas for free never to return. No mas!
  • Eli_jah

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    Feb 28, 2016 3:54 AM GMT
    No fucking DUH! This is the same thing Hitler did in the 1930s. Hence why Trump was (unfittingly) compared to him.

  • musclmed

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    Feb 28, 2016 4:06 AM GMT
    HardWorkerBL saidNo....they'll be no revolution. .

    FUCK YOUR MATRIX.
    FUCK YOUR TV.
    FUCK YOUR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES- DON'T WANT 'EM, DON'T NEED 'EM.

    I'm going to school overseas for free never to return. No mas!


    Great, and without your Iphone and computer we wont here your complaints any longer.
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    Feb 28, 2016 4:12 AM GMT
    HardWorkerBL saidI'm going to school overseas for free never to return. No mas!

    If you had your shit together, you would just go quietly. Your whining suggests the problem is with you, not the country. You'll likely be miserable wherever you go.
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    Feb 29, 2016 1:40 AM GMT
    The democrats just in general are the definition of projection. they accuse others of what they are doing. "look a bunny rabbit " ,or "the person with the R , after their name is racist, or something "