US election 2016: Day one of the Republican civil war

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    Feb 28, 2016 12:01 AM GMT
    Well, that's it then. The Republican Party has come unglued. It's been a long time in the making, but the day of reckoning is finally here.

    For decades there's been an uneasy alliance between the various factions within the Republican Party. The business interests have joined with social conservatives and economic populists to form a governing coalition.

    At least it was a governing coalition before Barack Obama won two straight presidential races and fashioned an electorate made up of the young, minorities and women that has significantly tilted the playing field toward Democrats for the foreseeable future.

    While thanks to population distribution and electoral district map-making Republicans seem secure in their hold on the US Congress, Mr Obama has proven that the power of the presidency matters most. Presented with this frustration, the Republican Party is tearing itself asunder.

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    Feb 28, 2016 12:08 AM GMT
    The Democratic Party is also tearing itself apart as well. Neither major party is in good shape. There is a lot of dissension between democratic voters and the Wall Street controlled DNC. Bernie is steadily gaining in the polls and most voters do not like or trust the Mary Queen of Goldman Sachs or more accurately the hapless Hillary ho.
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    Feb 28, 2016 1:08 AM GMT
    Ah - jolly amusing how the BBC is wetting its pants already. Their Brit is confusing rebellion against the establishment and candidate fighting as a disintegration of the entire party. Wishful thinking. The real party in trouble this time is the Democrats.

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    The BBC, for example, will not be happy. There will be a markedly different mood within the corporation this election night to the one we witnessed in 2008, when the studios were awash with ejaculate and we viewers were all forced to endure a relentlessly celebratory Obamathon, utterly devoid of anything even approaching impartiality: how wonderful of the Americans to elect him and what a marvellous, marvellous little black man he is! They will be instead grim-faced with incomprehension and antipathy.
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    Feb 28, 2016 1:12 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidAh - jolly amusing how the BBC is wetting its pants already. Their Brit is confusing rebellion against the establishment as a disintegration of the entire party. Wishful thinking. The real party in trouble this time is the Democrats.

    Thank you for that fine example of wishful thinking. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 28, 2016 1:29 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidAh - jolly amusing how the BBC is wetting its pants already. Their Brit is confusing rebellion against the establishment as a disintegration of the entire party. Wishful thinking. The real party in trouble this time is the Democrats.

    Thank you for that fine example of wishful thinking. icon_biggrin.gif

    A washed up Socialist and a women people view as being untrustworthy, unlikable, and still under possible indictment. Speaks for itself.
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    Feb 28, 2016 10:01 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThe Democratic Party is also tearing itself apart as well. Neither major party is in good shape. There is a lot of dissension between democratic voters and the Wall Street controlled DNC. Bernie is steadily gaining in the polls and most voters do not like or trust the Mary Queen of Goldman Sachs or more accurately the hapless Hillary ho.


    Your usual sexist comments notwithstanding; yes, the Dems are somewhat polarized, but they are nowhere near as fragmented as the GOP is right now. The GOP is in disarray, not knowing whether to distance itself from Trump (in the hope of salvaging congressional seats) or embrace him and risk losing the presidency and the Senate for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, following Clinton's crushing win in SC, the Dems are looking a lot less divided.
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    Feb 28, 2016 3:08 PM GMT
    the republican party is alive and well, how we quickly forget George Bush the republicans managed to get George in office and for no good credible reason re elected. Quaint pictures but the war and recession that followed was not.


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    Feb 28, 2016 4:24 PM GMT
    The Republican party is fragmenting and, depending on the eventual result of the primaries, likely will completely self-destruct if Trump emerges as the winner. McConnell has already said that the Republican party will drop Trump "like a hot rock" if he wins the nomination. I predict that if Trump does well on Tuesday, some Republican heavyweights will begin to coalesce around Trump, and others will try to come up with alternative approaches to steal the nomination from Trump, thus causing more splintering within the party. I saw Trump's interview this morning and it looks like he's already several steps ahead in terms of confronting a potential Republican party challenge to his nomination.
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    Feb 28, 2016 4:51 PM GMT
    The problem for the GOP is they can only 'drop' Trump by fair means, otherwise he will follow up on his threat to run as an independent, thereby splitting the GOP vote. Given how thin skinned Trump is, even if he loses the nomination in a fair fight, he might still come up with an excuse to run as an independent.


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    Feb 28, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThe Republican party is fragmenting and, depending on the eventual result of the primaries, likely will completely self-destruct if Trump emerges as the winner. McConnell has already said that the Republican party will drop Trump "like a hot rock" if he wins the nomination. I predict that if Trump does well on Tuesday, some Republican heavyweights will begin to coalesce around Trump, and others will try to come up with alternative approaches to steal the nomination from Trump, thus causing more splintering within the party. I saw Trump's interview this morning and it looks like he's already several steps ahead in terms of confronting a potential Republican party challenge to his nomination.


    The question remains- will voters rally around Trump given Hillary's deceitfulness? Anyone with a pulse may win against her in November.

    Trump's popularity is not about him. It's all about an outsider scaring the crap out of the DC barnacles. It's having the desired effect.

    Hillary is not an outsider.