Flabby stomach that only surgery can remove?

  • Littlebear777

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    Feb 29, 2016 10:14 AM GMT
    Okay, so I have been working out for a while now, my chest and arms and legs are getting better, but my stomach still is pretty flabby, though I'm a bit more thin now. I asked a friend about it and he told me that the flabby stomach will always be there, that it wasn't muscle so it wouldn't tighten up, and the only way to get rid of it was surgery. Is that true? That's a bit disheartening if it is. And if not, what better ways are there to lose the flab?
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    Feb 29, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
    I think for a lot of people, genetics make idealized ripped bodies an impossibility. I've been a caregiver for most of the past two and a half years, and I've had two episodes of major, unintended weight loss. A couple years ago, my weight slowly dropped from its usual 170# to 157#. At a little over 6'1", that was pretty skinny. But, because my body always carries a soft padded layer of subcutaneous fat, my physique was no more defined at 157 than at 170. That's just genetics. Regardless of weight, my body will never be lean and ripped. Even as a boy, I carried that soft padded layer. More recently, I lost 6 pounds in two weeks, and still no six pack.
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    Feb 29, 2016 4:39 PM GMT
    I ve seen guys go on Paleo diet and lose 60 lbs. of fat. It's different than other diets in that the chemistry targets waist fat while building muscle. The goal is to change your muscle fat -to- muscle ratio not just become skinny fat. Your body will restore itself given half a chance. The other aspect is to retrain internal fascia that is responsible for the tight look. You don't need surgery your body just needs time and nutrition to restore itself .


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    Feb 29, 2016 5:50 PM GMT
    I see, thanks a lot guys, was kinda losing hope after hearing what my friend said, but I'll keep going and check out that diet. I've been doing a lot with dumbells and sit ups to work up my core and strength and going out biking for my cardio. I can endure a lot more than I used to, just my stomach has been worrying me about the goal I want to achieve.
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    Feb 29, 2016 6:48 PM GMT
    Littlebear777 saidI see, thanks a lot guys, was kinda losing hope after hearing what my friend said, but I'll keep going and check out that diet. I've been doing a lot with dumbells and sit ups to work up my core and strength and going out biking for my cardio. I can endure a lot more than I used to, just my stomach has been worrying me about the goal I want to achieve.



    Your body has Amazing restorative capabilities. A car won't go far it you fill the tank with Mountain Dew. So it is with your body. Feed it what is was designed to use as fuel and it won't disappoint. If it works for a old guy like me it will certainly work for you. Check out Robb Wolf's website.
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    Feb 29, 2016 6:51 PM GMT
    If you were very over weight before and have lost it sometimes you are left with excess "deflated" skin. That needs to be surgically removed- a "tummy tuck" or abdominoplasty. They will also usually tighten up the underlying muscle/fascia beneath it.
    If you just have some extra pudge on your belly then you don't need surgery. You need to burn fat. It is extremely difficult to bulk up your muscles and cut fat on your abdomen at the same time.
    Focus on your diet, avoid processed foods and "white" carbs- no rice, pasta, bread, potatoes. Eat cauliflower and sweet potatoes instead. Your plate should be 1/2 non starchy vegetables, 1/4 protein, 1/4 starchy vegetables.
    Make sure you eat good fats- avocados and coconut oil and nuts in moderation.
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    Feb 29, 2016 8:00 PM GMT
    Ahh, I see what you're both saying. I could do better on my diet, cut down on sodas and such and eat more vegetables, I LOVE meat so I get plenty of protein, I even sometimes eat a couple of spoon fulls peanut butter straight from the jar lol. I don't think I've ever been over weight though, I think the heaviest I've ever been was around 215 pounds, and I'm 5'9".
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    Feb 29, 2016 9:55 PM GMT
    Don't cut down on sodas. ELIMINATE them all together. There is NOTHING good about them nutritionally speaking.
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    Feb 29, 2016 10:51 PM GMT
    From personal experience: the excess skin very, very slowly shrinks away. It takes years, but ultimately it is zapped on its own.

    It is very, very slow, though. It took about 10 years for my abs to show, without any change in muscle mass or body fat percentage.

    On the plus side, there are advantages to looking better as you get older.
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    Mar 01, 2016 12:13 AM GMT
    Where's the fat:

    If it's intra abdominal (behind your ab muscles), then surgery can't be used to remove it.

    If you can pinch an inch or more, then its subcutaneous fat (on top of your ab muscles) which can be treated surgically or with coolsculpting:

    http://www.coolsculpting.com
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    Mar 01, 2016 12:41 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidDon't cut down on sodas. ELIMINATE them all together. There is NOTHING good about them nutritionally speaking.


    Yes, all processed sugar needs to be eliminated now and at the beginning even cut down on natural sugar.

    The idea here is for your body to flip it's metabolic switch from sugar burning/fat building as it is now to fat burning/muscle building. To do that you need to eat more good fat,veggies and grass fed meats. The veggies to meat ratio is 80/20 . So Paleo really should be called a vegetarian diet. Paleo diet folks typical eat more veggies than vegetarians who typically eat mostly processed carbs.
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    Mar 01, 2016 12:42 AM GMT
    Your friend is full of shit, honestly.

    What he's POSSIBLY talking about is "loose skin" which happens after an obese person loses a huge amount of weight (50 or more pounds) very very quickly--that would require surgery.

    But that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about. Your body fat is simply too high to see any abs. I was totally there once myself. What I had to learn was that exercise has next to nothing to do with it, it was all diet. Once I cut out all sugar and fried foods and had a caloric deficit every day for six months (1500 calories) I lost the 50lbs and finally had my abs back.

    You can do it.

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    And please don't let these guys talk you into the total bullshit paleo diet. Sugar is sugar is sugar, whether it's processed or not, it's caloric-dense and not good for you--not even "natural" ones like cane or honey or agave. The paleo diet and the gluten-free diet and all that hippie bullshit is NOT backed by science. It really is as simple as "don't consume more calories than you use"--you don't need to make it more complex than that by follow this or that fad diet.
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    Mar 01, 2016 7:23 AM GMT
    jackedgamer saidYour friend is full of shit, honestly.

    What he's POSSIBLY talking about is "loose skin" which happens after an obese person loses a huge amount of weight (50 or more pounds) very very quickly--that would require surgery.

    But that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about. Your body fat is simply too high to see any abs. I was totally there once myself. What I had to learn was that exercise has next to nothing to do with it, it was all diet. Once I cut out all sugar and fried foods and had a caloric deficit every day for six months (1500 calories) I lost the 50lbs and finally had my abs back.

    You can do it.

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    And please don't let these guys talk you into the total bullshit paleo diet. Sugar is sugar is sugar, whether it's processed or not, it's caloric-dense and not good for you--not even "natural" ones like cane or honey or agave. The paleo diet and the gluten-free diet and all that hippie bullshit is NOT backed by science. It really is as simple as "don't consume more calories than you use"--you don't need to make it more complex than that by follow this or that fad diet.


    Ignorance is ignorance. Try Paleo diet for 30 days if you want to talk from a place of knowledge rather from a place of ignorance . And try reading the thousands of studies that have been done on paleo diet rather than saying they don't exist .
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    Mar 01, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidDon't cut down on sodas. ELIMINATE them all together. There is NOTHING good about them nutritionally speaking.


    Agreed! Sodas, including diet sodas are among the worst contributors of excess body fat. These drinks are loaded with sugar and artificial sweeteners which your body converts to stored fat. Instead drink water, natural juices (but not excessively) and herbal teas. My favorite herbal tea is ginger. Please avoid the temptation of sweetening your tea. You can train yourself to be satisfied with natural flavors, but it does take will power. Good luck to you and I commend you for taking these serious steps to improving your fitness.
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    Mar 01, 2016 11:32 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said

    Ignorance is ignorance. Try Paleo diet for 30 days if you want to talk from a place of knowledge rather from a place of ignorance . And try reading the thousands of studies that have been done on paleo diet rather than saying they don't exist .


    ...please point me to one reputable study that shows that paleo isn't bullshit. I HAVE read studies that show it is no more effective than simple caloric reduction, and--if anything--is harmful as it cuts out particular nutrients.
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    Mar 02, 2016 12:08 AM GMT
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    UndercoverMan saidDon't cut down on sodas. ELIMINATE them all together. There is NOTHING good about them nutritionally speaking.

    Sodas, including diet sodas are among the worst contributors of excess body fat. These drinks are loaded with sugar and artificial sweeteners which your body converts to stored fat.


    Artificial sweeteners canNOT be converted to fat--that's not how it works. And actually, "natural juices" are much worse for a diet than artificial sweeteners.