"Armed gays don't get bashed" is mostly nonsense

  • JackNNJ

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    Feb 29, 2016 11:24 PM GMT
    I mean they usually don't get bashed if the basher knows or suspects they have a gun - I concede that. But armed gays do get bashed. It's just that the basher usually gets shot.

    So it's all good - it's just a shortcut, a figure of speech.
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    Mar 01, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
    JackNNJ saidI mean they usually don't get bashed if the basher knows or suspects they have a gun - I concede that. But armed gays do get bashed. It's just that the basher usually gets shot.

    So it's all good - it's just a shortcut, a figure of speech.


    "Open Carry" is the best thing that's ever happened in Texas. Gays in Texas should pack some heat.
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    Mar 01, 2016 1:45 AM GMT
    JackNNJ saidI mean they usually don't get bashed if the basher knows or suspects they have a gun - I concede that. But armed gays do get bashed. It's just that the basher usually gets shot.

    So it's all good - it's just a shortcut, a figure of speech.


    It also helps to be ripped, 6'2" or so and 240lbs....

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    Mar 01, 2016 1:56 AM GMT
    Having a gun is like watching a martial arts video...it doesn't mean you know how to use it.

    Learning how to defend oneself is way more productive than owning a piece of equipment that you don't know how to use.
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    Mar 01, 2016 1:57 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    JackNNJ saidI mean they usually don't get bashed if the basher knows or suspects they have a gun - I concede that. But armed gays do get bashed. It's just that the basher usually gets shot.

    So it's all good - it's just a shortcut, a figure of speech.


    It also helps to be ripped, 6'2" or so and 240lbs....

    Say that to the straight guy who's 5'2" and 104 lbs, and gets harassed just because of his small frame.
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    Mar 01, 2016 2:24 AM GMT
    Open carry in Colorado is relatively useless. if you visibly carry; even if you have a gun in your tool box, you should be asking your self if you really really need to be doing this.

    -the legal system will attempt to rip a new hole in your life no matter how you perceive your personal freedoms.

    -if you have a good W2 income, assets, a home etc; there is just not enough hours in the day to deal with the ramifications.

    -these days your opponent(s) have given it some thought and think your a safe bet.

    -no establishment will let you in with a visible weapon. its not like they care, just they are not going to loose their business license.



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    Mar 01, 2016 3:28 AM GMT
    There was a gay man who was stopped by a cop on a driving violation. As procedure, the cop asked him if he had any weapons in the car.

    The man said that, yes, he had a .22 Glock pistol in his glove compartment. The cop asked him if he had any other weapons, and the man replied, "yes, I actually have a 20 gauge shotgun in the trunk." The cop was getting concerned, and decided to ask if there any more guns in his car. This time, the man said, "Oh yes, I also have a 9 mm Sig P938 compact tucked away under my seat."

    Finally the cop asked him, "Sir, what in the world are you afraid of?" To which the gay man replied, "Not a damn thing!"







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    Mar 01, 2016 4:28 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidHaving a gun is like watching a martial arts video...it doesn't mean you know how to use it.

    Learning how to defend oneself is way more productive than owning a piece of equipment that you don't know how to use.
    Oh and just to prove my point...learn how to shoot if you wanna on a gun!
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    Mar 01, 2016 4:49 AM GMT
    Nobody fucks with me because it's easy to see the outline of my 11-inch penis in the leg of my jeans (I dress left).

    But I can see why the rest of you need a gun.
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    Mar 01, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
    pellaz saidOpen carry in Colorado is relatively useless. if you visibly carry; even if you have a gun in your tool box, you should be asking your self if you really really need to be doing this.

    -the legal system will attempt to rip a new hole in your life no matter how you perceive your personal freedoms.

    -if you have a good W2 income, assets, a home etc; there is just not enough hours in the day to deal with the ramifications.

    -these days your opponent(s) have given it some thought and think your a safe bet.

    -no establishment will let you in with a visible weapon. its not like they care, just they are not going to loose their business license.





    I've seen open carry in the back country while hiking and it occasionally occurs in smaller rural communities. Colorado Springs allows open carry, though it rarely happens.

    It's generally illegal in "home rule" cities such as Denver and Boulder. Most ski and tourist towns frown upon it.

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    Mar 01, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
    good point:
    At least in Colorado the gun laws are inconsistent from community to community. If you wind up in court and i guess than you find out whats happening.
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    Mar 01, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
    It's so sad that men with small penises have to carry a gun to feel manly.
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    Mar 01, 2016 5:08 PM GMT
    As a martial arts black belt, I'm not afraid of getting bashed, although I have not been tested (my theory is that bullies have great instincts so they can tell who's potentially vulnerable). However, even the best martial arts skills can't beat a bullet coming at you from several meters away.
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    Mar 01, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
    The U.S should do , what Australia did a few years back ..
    A gun is a very dangerous weapon that should not be in the hands of everyone ..
    America , wakes up guns owners are increasing with every day passing as killing do , this is not GOOD !!
  • tazzari

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    Mar 01, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
    But if you carry, at what point do you decide it's time to kill someone?
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    Mar 01, 2016 7:00 PM GMT
    tazzari saidBut if you carry, at what point do you decide it's time to kill someone?


    As a general legal rule, you may use lethal force if you reasonably believe that there is an imminent danger to your life or imminent danger of serious bodily harm or the same imminent danger to another person.

    What's reasonable is subject to evaluation by grand jury or district attorney. Any you must discontinue the use of lethal force as soon as the individual ceases to be a threat.

    https://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/fl-3-6f-justifiable-use-of-deadly-force/
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    Mar 01, 2016 7:09 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidIt's so sad that men with small penises have to carry a gun to feel manly.


    Female ownership of guns has increase greatly over the past decade.

    Would they be carrying to feel more feminine -- or perhaps more masculine? Or maybe they're compensating for tiny breasts?

    Or maybe your bitchy comment has no validity at all...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/us/rising-voice-of-gun-ownership-is-female.html?_r=0
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    Mar 01, 2016 8:51 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    tazzari saidBut if you carry, at what point do you decide it's time to kill someone?


    As a general legal rule, you may use lethal force if you reasonably believe that there is an imminent danger to your life or imminent danger of serious bodily harm or the same imminent danger to another person.

    What's reasonable is subject to evaluation by grand jury or district attorney. Any you must discontinue the use of lethal force as soon as the individual ceases to be a threat.

    https://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/fl-3-6f-justifiable-use-of-deadly-force/


    I' aware of that, but my point, which I may have put badly, was a moral/personal one: at what point does one decide to kill? In the end, that is what carrying a gun for self-defense means.
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    Mar 01, 2016 9:52 PM GMT
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    tazzari saidBut if you carry, at what point do you decide it's time to kill someone?


    As a general legal rule, you may use lethal force if you reasonably believe that there is an imminent danger to your life or imminent danger of serious bodily harm or the same imminent danger to another person.

    What's reasonable is subject to evaluation by grand jury or district attorney. Any you must discontinue the use of lethal force as soon as the individual ceases to be a threat.

    https://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/fl-3-6f-justifiable-use-of-deadly-force/


    I' aware of that, but my point, which I may have put badly, was a moral/personal one: at what point does one decide to kill? In the end, that is what carrying a gun for self-defense means.


    I see your point now. I think it varies for each of us based on moral outlook.

    For myself, I'd use the legal definition -- imminent death or disability to myself or someone I loved. And I'd be shooting to stop -- not to kill -- as recommended by all reputable CCW trainers.

    And it would have to be a situation where I had no recourse -- where I couldn't flee or deescalate the situation.
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    Mar 01, 2016 10:53 PM GMT
    rkyjockdn said
    tazzari said
    rkyjockdn said
    tazzari saidBut if you carry, at what point do you decide it's time to kill someone?


    As a general legal rule, you may use lethal force if you reasonably believe that there is an imminent danger to your life or imminent danger of serious bodily harm or the same imminent danger to another person.

    What's reasonable is subject to evaluation by grand jury or district attorney. Any you must discontinue the use of lethal force as soon as the individual ceases to be a threat.

    https://lawofselfdefense.com/jury_instruction/fl-3-6f-justifiable-use-of-deadly-force/


    I' aware of that, but my point, which I may have put badly, was a moral/personal one: at what point does one decide to kill? In the end, that is what carrying a gun for self-defense means.


    I see your point now. I think it varies for each of us based on moral outlook.

    For myself, I'd use the legal definition -- imminent death or disability to myself or someone I loved. And I'd be shooting to stop -- not to kill -- as recommended by all reputable CCW trainers.

    And it would have to be a situation where I had no recourse -- where I couldn't flee or deescalate the situation.


    Good answer. I can respect that!
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    Mar 02, 2016 3:40 AM GMT
    I totally agree! I carry, and the reason I do is not only to protect myself, but anyone in danger around me as well.

    As far as having to utilise it, yes, I will do so to stop a threat. Coming from a family with a heavy law enforcement and military background, I am comfortable with carrying. I liked the story above with the cop asking "what are you afraid of... Absolutely nothing." Sounds like me.

    Case in point... Tonight here in Houston, there was a "smash and grab" of a major gun store here. Several guns were stolen, and the criminals are still at large. Like my dad always says, "with hope that you never have to pull your weapon, if you do, you better be prepared to use it." Guns are getting into the wrong hands these days, and with these cases of people having no value for life and nothing to lose, (walking into office parties, stores, restaurants, etc.), at least I am always prepared for the worst, and willing to protect myself, or defend someone in danger. It has nothing to do with being scared. A 40 calibre has much more power to do damage than any type of martial arts, or moves.

    Cheers,

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    Mar 02, 2016 7:54 PM GMT
    Good points. But what scares me is all the people carrying firearms without your background or any meaningful training.
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    Mar 02, 2016 8:13 PM GMT
    But doesn't gays are as likely to get shot too by a homophobe then?
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    Mar 03, 2016 9:22 PM GMT
    tazzari saidGood points. But what scares me is all the people carrying firearms without your background or any meaningful training.


    Most people who own guns have training.

    You should be more afraid of people behind the wheel - many have no business driving.

    Saw this lady driving by, she seemed to have some kind of spastic tic going on - saw her again in the store, she was a mess, her whole body was spazzing every five seconds. Saw her again driving out of the parking lot, retardedly spazzing out behind the wheel.

    I waited a few minutes before leaving. Don't want to be any where fucking near her on the roads.

    RETARDS KILL.