#NeverTrump and the Rise of a New Republican Respectability Politics. Republicans Appalled, Repulsed, Afraid and Dismayed by Trump

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    Mar 04, 2016 3:46 PM GMT
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    http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/never-trump-and-the-rise-of-a-new-republican-respectability-politics
    ...Ben Sasse, a Republican from Nebraska...announced that he would leave the Party if Trump were the nominee...

    ...a survey of eight hundred Republican base voters, which found that “one in five” were "poised to defect from the party.”...

    ...Over the weekend, the Bloomberg columnist Megan McArdle issued an open call to her readers. She wanted to hear from lifelong Republicans who were so revolted by the possibility of a Trump nomination that they were planning to sit out the election. By Monday, McArdle had received “hundreds” of responses. “What surprised me?” she wrote. “First, the sheer number of people who sat down and composed lengthy emails over the weekend. Second, the passion they showed. These people are not quietly concerned about Trump. They are appalled, repulsed, afraid and dismayed that their party could have let this happen.”

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  • HottJoe

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    Mar 04, 2016 3:50 PM GMT
    What's disturbing is that 4 out of 5 Trump detractors will pull the lever for Trump anyway. "Chumps for Trump" should be the new GOP motto.
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    Mar 04, 2016 4:00 PM GMT
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    I will not vote for Donald Trump for President of the United States even if he is the Republican nominee.

    He is an authoritarian blending nationalist and tribal impulses, which historically has never worked out well for the nation that goes in that direction or the people in that nation.

    He will not win in November. He will not win because he turns off a large number of Republicans; he turns off women; he turns off hispanic voters; he turns off black voters; and the blue collar voters who support him are not a sufficient base of support to carry him over the finish line. His supporters who claim he carried hispanic voters in Nevada are deluding themselves. Nevada’s turnout of hispanic voters was less than one percent of Nevada’s hispanic population, amounting to around 100 people in the exit polling with a margin of error of at minimum ±10%.

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    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432237/donald-trump-why-i-cant-vote-trump-nevertrump
    Let me begin by saying that I was wrong. Weeks ago I said on a number of radio interviews that while I opposed Trump in the primary, I’d back him if he won the GOP nomination. I hadn’t yet seen — or had been unwilling to believe — the full extent of his contempt for the truth...

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  • HottJoe

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    Mar 04, 2016 4:15 PM GMT
    The appalling thing is that Trump didn't introduce bigotry into the GOP. He just ratcheted it up to the point where they're getting nervous about going too far. Their whole platform is fundamentally bigoted, and everyone supports them knowingly supports bigotry. That's nothing new.
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    Mar 04, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
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    http://www.newsweek.com/charlie-baker-massachusetts-governor-never-trump-432679
    Massachusetts Governor Joins Growing Anti-Trump Chorus Among Republicans

    The #NeverTrump train is gaining steam within the GOP, after Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker and other prominent Republicans said they won't support their party's front-runner.

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    Raised in Needham, Massachusetts, Baker is the son of a Republican executive official who worked under Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. He graduated from Harvard College and obtained an MBA from Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management.
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    Mar 04, 2016 4:35 PM GMT
    Look! It has its own twitter

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/nevertrump

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  • HottJoe

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    Mar 04, 2016 4:51 PM GMT
    He does have very small hands... And I couldn't help but notice that Rubio has large hands for his stature.icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 04, 2016 4:54 PM GMT
    The Republican agenda has been based on hate for decades. Started with Newt. I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing how the R establishment is shocked SHOCKED! that their leaders are now saying out loud what they've been saying in code for years. The truth is it isn't some bulldozer rolling over the party. It is the tens of millions of Republicans who've hated blacks, hated gays, hated hispanics, hated science, hated compromise, hated peace, hated civility, hated Bill, hated Obama, hated Hillary, hated truth. It isn't the leaders. It is the flock.
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    Mar 04, 2016 4:55 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThe Republican agenda has been based on hate for decades. Started with Newt. I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing how the R establishment is shocked SHOCKED! that their leaders are now saying out loud what they've been saying in code for years. The truth is it isn't some bulldozer rolling over the party. It is the tens of millions of Republicans who've hated blacks, hated gays, hated hispanics, hated science, hated compromise, hated peace, hated civility, hated Bill, hated Obama, hated Hillary, hated truth. It isn't the leaders. It is the flock.

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    Mar 05, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThe Republican agenda has been based on hate for decades. Started with Newt. I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing how the R establishment is shocked SHOCKED! that their leaders are now saying out loud what they've been saying in code for years. The truth is it isn't some bulldozer rolling over the party. It is the tens of millions of Republicans who've hated blacks, hated gays, hated hispanics, hated science, hated compromise, hated peace, hated civility, hated Bill, hated Obama, hated Hillary, hated truth. It isn't the leaders. It is the flock.


    Very well said. Including pointing to Newt when Reagan normally gets all the credit for the last gear shift of the Republican machine.

    This from a 2012 article
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/newt-gingrich-vs-ronald-reagan-brief-history
    The problem with Newt Gingrich's 1980s criticism of Ronald Reagan is that it presents today's Republicans with an uncomfortable truth: Gingrich attacked Reagan from the right because there was room to do so. Reagan wasn't always the tax-cutting arch-conservative Republicans make him out to be. He was often a military hawk but not always. He wasn't, frankly, the Ronald Reagan that Republicans speak of with so much reverence today.


    To put it into its proper perspeKKKtive, Reagan was the Sheet over Newt. Now, like pulling back foreskin, they remove their hoods to reveal they're cheesy dicks.
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    Mar 05, 2016 6:27 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThe Republican agenda has been based on hate for decades. Started with Newt. I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing how the R establishment is shocked SHOCKED! that their leaders are now saying out loud what they've been saying in code for years. The truth is it isn't some bulldozer rolling over the party. It is the tens of millions of Republicans who've hated blacks, hated gays, hated hispanics, hated science, hated compromise, hated peace, hated civility, hated Bill, hated Obama, hated Hillary, hated truth. It isn't the leaders. It is the flock.


    Exactly. I think what appalls the traditionalist arm of the GOP is that the veil of respectability has been so violently torn away - by Trump. Most of those who comprise the Trump trash probably never cared anyway. They were already perfectly attuned to the sort of rhetoric now coming from the loud, angry and hateful orange guy.
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    Mar 05, 2016 6:36 PM GMT
    "Republican Respectability" is has been a contradiction of terms for (at least) the past 20 years.
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    Mar 06, 2016 1:17 AM GMT
    http://fortune.com/2016/03/05/louis-c-k-trump/
    Comedian Louis C.K. Begs Fans Not to Vote for Donald Trump

    "It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler,” Louis C.K. says.

    Louis C.K. has joined team #NeverTrump. The comedian compared the Republican presidential candidate to Hitler in the postscript for an email promoting his web series Horace and Pete.

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    C.K. clarified he’s not advocating for democratic candidates Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders, and would rather have a conservative in the White House to “balance” out President Obama’s eight-year run. “But it only works if the conservatives put up a good candidate. A good smart conservative to face the liberal candidate so they can have a good argument and the country can decide which way to go this time. Trump is not that. He’s an insane bigot. He is dangerous.”