Male Mental Health and Homosexuality

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    Mar 08, 2016 6:51 AM GMT
    Hey fellow RJers,

    I typically do not create threads (as some of you may have noticed), I usually choose to pick apart everyone else's threads like a prickish dickhead, but I have a few stances on some topics that I would appreciate some feedback on from you all.

    When it comes to the mental health of men, I find it to be the invisible elephant in the room that no one ever addresses, because it is actually invisible to most people's attention. I do believe that men kill themselves more often than females do, partially because they have been taught to possess the drive needed to succeed in doing it more so than females. Females usually will receive support if they demonstrate weakness (not always), where men will most likely be scrutinized or humiliated. Also just last night at work, I overheard a female saying that men can't really be sexually harassed, and though men can't be harassed as easily by women, they are harassed by other men all the time; the fact that you share the same genitals with an abuser does not mean that the sex as a whole is to blame: the indoctrination of abuse between men, permitted by all forms of humanity is to blame. This is an example of female ignorance relating to typically common male struggle.

    I personally believe that homosexual men are special, as I interpret homosexuality within males to be the epitome of spiritual magnanimity, not just for the male sex, but for all of humanity, as men are the most responsible for the creation and destruction of the physical world throughout history. Homosexual males have the most partners, and have the most sex when compared to all other types of sex partners, because something bigger than ourselves is attempting to counteract all of the violence men have been taught to express towards one another for millenniums worth of generations, via war.

    I don't identify as gay, though I identify as having predominately homosexual tenancies, with hetero/bi sexual undertones. My real sexuality is quite ambiguous, and if I were to describe the essence of my true sexual identity, I would describe it to be a force that is attracted to the most misunderstood, irrationally stigmatized act present within our world currently: homosexuality. Many sexual acts such as bestiality, pedophilia, and rape, are acts that warrant stigma as they are either not very natural, or they are malefic forms of sexuality where the power leverage is unbalanced, though same sex attraction is very natural, since we as humans need empathic love from all humans regardless of sex and gender (fathers must love son, mothers must love daughters). Any unfulfilled emotional needs of the child will result in a desire to fill it from that type of sex in adulthood via sexual orientation. To cement the initial statement of my sexual nature with an example, If females having sex with each other were to be the most taboo sexual act, and male homosexuality was nationally approved, I would be attracted more exclusively to witnessing females have sex, or being female and having sex with a female. This is why my exact sexuality is not gay or homosexual, it is actually a deeper sexuality that has more so to do with aligning myself with sexual acts that will progress humanity. Also if you have seen the film Cloud Atlas and understood it's theme and message, you would likely understand me when I say that in my next lifetime I would reincarnate as whatever sex/gender/race/form of consciousness that resonated with a particularly challenging struggle that needed to be understood during that time period, in order to create the most expansion and philanthropic progress in that generation.

    If you made it this far than I am impressed with your mental vigor, if you enjoyed what I had to see feel free to reply, and if you disliked it or disagree, please also reply and tell me your thoughts. If I ever create a thread, I appreciate all thoughts that are added to it regardless of tone or position.
  • JackNNJ

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    Mar 08, 2016 3:26 PM GMT
    It's true, men are more successful at suicide than women. Men are more successful at EVERYTHING, good and bad.

    It's the Bell Curve (I think). If you walk into a room of 100 people (say), all mixed sex, race, etc., the chances are that the most successful, accomplished, and confident person will be a man.

    Similarly, the biggest loser asshole miscreant idiot who's made a mess of their life will also be a man.

    So happy International Women's Day. Celebrate with some good old fashioned woman's work:

    homens+perfeitos.jpg
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    Mar 08, 2016 6:46 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said... Men are more successful at EVERYTHING, ...
    Several studies have shown that women are more successful at multi-tasking than men.
    Women have a lower center of mass, allowing them to handle higher g-loads than men.
    The above two traits combined mean women are more successful fighter jet pilots than men.
    Just to name a few...








    Oh and I spilled some coffee earlier. What's this guy's number?

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    Mar 08, 2016 6:54 PM GMT
    I really don't being label as "Gay" too and I am sure there are many guys are like us don't feel comfortable being label. Some of my gay friends think I am a "Bisexual". Some of my straight friends think I am confused "Straight". So I really dislike being label.
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    Mar 08, 2016 8:40 PM GMT
    Nimrod saidI really don't being label as "Gay" too and I am sure there are many guys are like us don't feel comfortable being label. Some of my gay friends think I am a "Bisexual". Some of my straight friends think I am confused "Straight". So I really dislike being label.


    I've never quite understood why other people think it's appropriate to label your sexuality for you, when they don't have access to your emotional bank or perspective at any given time, other than what you offer with words. Honestly...you can label yourself however you want, and obviously it will be more accepted if you admitt it sincerely. If you're resistant in saying you're not homosexual but you have sex with guys, maybe you're afraid of being what you are, or maybe you don't like the label, or maybe something even deeper is occurring; a long time ago I heard man open up on a radio show, saying he had sex with men in college and believed he was gay, and realized that he was just physically driven to do so but was never happy. He then found a relationship with a female and it made him very happy, and ended up having kids and is living a better life. Most people this does not happen to and this is know propoganda for gay curing as it is very rare, but just as some people think they are straight and realize they're homosexual after a prolonged period of time, it is possible for some people to think they are homosexual, possibly due to ongoing sexual abuse in childhood or some other strange event, to then realize later that they may in fact not entirely be homosexual, or may have the physical drive for it but absolutely no emotional drive attached to it. Sex and Love are deep topics.
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    Mar 08, 2016 8:47 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidIt's true, men are more successful at suicide than women. Men are more successful at EVERYTHING, good and bad.

    It's the Bell Curve (I think). If you walk into a room of 100 people (say), all mixed sex, race, etc., the chances are that the most successful, accomplished, and confident person will be a man.

    Similarly, the biggest loser asshole miscreant idiot who's made a mess of their life will also be a man.

    So happy International Women's Day. Celebrate with some good old fashioned woman's work:

    homens+perfeitos.jpg


    Exactly, being a man is a polarizing existence is what I am implying too, and I don't think people observe males the way that you do, because if they did more men would feel empathy for their feelings of constant inadequacy. 90% of humans in prisons are also male btw.

    My main point is yes it is high risk high reward being a male, which is why I like being a male because I fit that type, but nontheless men have their own unique sets of challenges and pressures different than most of what females experience on a conditioning level, and I really think a TON of problems would diminish if men were just given permission to not have to be tough and intact all of the time.
  • LJay

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    Mar 09, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
    Interesting post, OP. It's a bit hard to see your point, but you still have a lot of interesting things to say.

    Now as to that picture of the young gentleman (who is delicious at the very least) Mom always said that the only way to get a floor really clean is to get down on your hands and knees with a brush and she was not above doing it herself. Thanks to the fellow who posted it to remind me of her wisdom.
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    Mar 09, 2016 7:12 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    JackNNJ said... Men are more successful at EVERYTHING, ...
    Several studies have shown that women are more successful at multi-tasking than men.
    Women have a lower center of mass, allowing them to handle higher g-loads than men.
    The above two traits combined mean women are more successful fighter jet pilots than men.
    Just to name a few...



    However, studies have also shown that "multi-tasking" itself also produces results in each task inferior to what a person single-tasking produces. This difference between the genders might also be partly biologically driven, since women bear and are biologically supposed to raise their children (feminists have a hard time understanding the implications of having an uterus!) Riding herd on small children certainly demands multi-tasking not necessarily executed perfectly, so it would not be especially surprising that women turn out to have greater natural abilities in this area evolutionarily.



  • Shark100

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    Mar 10, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
    I hate labels either, why do you have to be gay or straight or bi, I believe that gender does not matter when you actually feel that special connection, of course physical attraction is important.

    Lately I have had the oportunity to talk to guys, most of them married, the thypical father, husband, workman, the tradie, the banker, the guy who watches footy on Saturday drinking a beer with his mates...and guess what...all of them cruising...looking to have some fun with other men.

    I had the impression all these years that I was gay and that caused me a terrible anxiety, as I could not accept it, I also had girlfriends and in one way or another I enjoyed their presence in my life.

    In terms of mental health, all those stereotypes can cause a lot of distress and mental illness, now that I have noticed that even the guy next door possibly enjoys from time to time a bit of male to male contact, it makes me feel that it is not about being gay, or bi, or curious straight, I think it is more about the nature of sex, and in some way the need of contact with other people.

    Unfortunately the stigmatised society we live in can cause great damage to our live, happiness, stress level and health in general, of course there should be boundaries, but also denying the human nature labelling as wrong or immoral or dirty , do not help to make better people.
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    Mar 10, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidIt's true, men are more successful at suicide than women. Men are more successful at EVERYTHING, good and bad.

    It's the Bell Curve (I think). If you walk into a room of 100 people (say), all mixed sex, race, etc., the chances are that the most successful, accomplished, and confident person will be a man.

    Similarly, the biggest loser asshole miscreant idiot who's made a mess of their life will also be a man.

    So happy International Women's Day. Celebrate with some good old fashioned woman's work:

    homens+perfeitos.jpg

    Oh YUM!!! I'd be happy to give HIS key a few twists!
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    Mar 10, 2016 1:06 PM GMT
    More seriously, I've never been happier since I came out 21 years ago (anniversary this month!). Until then I was emotionally conflicted inside and unfulfilled, but couldn't understand why.

    Yeah, living gay in a predominately straight world has its drawbacks. But better than when I was living confused and unhappy as a presumed straight.

    We are happiest living the way we were made, whether it's gay or straight. I was born gay. But couldn't or wouldn't recognize that, causing me to live a wrongful life that didn't make me as happy as I might have been, nor perhaps achieving my full potential (assuming I had any).

    Well, for the last 20 years I've been trying to make up for that. And I've never been happier, my mental health never better. Live who you really are, and you'll live to your best. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 12, 2016 10:28 PM GMT
    Mental health is what it is.

    Step 1: Like yourself...pictured, profiled, full face, full name, handshake, and smile.
    Step 2: get on with life.
    If you can't get past step 1, seek the help of a qualified mental health professional; educate yourself about the world around you.

    Part of good mental health is step 1. If you can't get past step 1 on your own, then, you need help.
  • Noeton

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    Mar 13, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
    I didn't read all of this, but I must say the post directly above mine is an example of mental illness writ large -- a cry for help. Get help! But first accept that you need it.

    I had a friend who committed suicide about 20 years ago, and I know I'll never entirely get over it. Unless it's to escape totalitarianism, torture or catastrophic chronic illness, it's not worth it.

    If the shoe fits, wear it. If the label is true, accept it. If it's a lie, reject it. Respect yourself and others as much as possible.
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    Mar 13, 2016 7:05 PM GMT
    gudgelcl saidMental health is what it is.

    Step 1: Like yourself...pictured, profiled, full face, full name, handshake, and smile.
    Step 2: get on with life.
    If you can't get past step 1, seek the help of a qualified mental health professional; educate yourself about the world around you.

    Part of good mental health is step 1. If you can't get past step 1 on your own, then, you need help.


    This.
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    Mar 14, 2016 3:52 AM GMT
    gudgelcl saidMental health is what it is.

    Step 1: Like yourself...pictured, profiled, full face, full name, handshake, and smile.
    Step 2: get on with life.
    If you can't get past step 1, seek the help of a qualified mental health professional; educate yourself about the world around you.

    Part of good mental health is step 1. If you can't get past step 1 on your own, then, you need help.


    This is probably one of the laziest, simpleton answers I have ever seen on RJ. Everyone experiences different levels of pain and trauma, and the ones who experience the most have more unique obstacles to overcome. Just because you're a simpleton and cut yourself off from the collective suffering of the world, doesn't mean that you are successful at preserving your mental health better than anyone else, it just means that you're a minimalist, which is fine, though minimalists never have qualitative insights on how to heal acute levels of suffering. Instead, they tend to gloss over life because they are too lazy to narrow there scope in on what is really going on inside the mind of another.

    Also sir, can you please inform the public on what a "professional' is exactly, because there are many certified therapists and specialists who fail patients all of the time. I have seen a therapist and she helped me a little but did not help members of my family, I have another friend who saw a therapist as a kid and also did not receive much benefit from it. The key is quality, personalized attention, not the kind of lazy haphazard responses like the one above. What's the point of responding to threads if you're just going to input a meaningless platitude that everyone has already heard?
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    Mar 15, 2016 2:29 PM GMT
    I also do not refer to myself as "gay", even though I am one of the few 100% homosexual men out there. "Gay" has too many ignorant assumptions that go along with it. And now that transexuals have become synonymous with being gay I never use it anymore.

    For example, I frequently will be hanging out with someone who doesn't know my sexual preference and they will comment on a passing female. My response is usually something like this: "Yes, she's very pretty but I'm not attracted to females." This opens up a nice dialog where I can both inform the person about myself while also educating. They almost always will say "Oh, so you're gay." And I inform them I don't identify with that term but that I'm attracted exclusively to men. You can see the lightbulb go off above their head. And sometimes they will admit to having same sex feelings too but also hate being labelled.
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    Mar 20, 2016 4:37 PM GMT
    It's so awesome you've all figured out what you're not.

  • May 17, 2016 7:21 PM GMT
    Radd saidI also do not refer to myself as "gay", even though I am one of the few 100% homosexual men out there. "Gay" has too many ignorant assumptions that go along with it. And now that transexuals have become synonymous with being gay I never use it anymore.

    For example, I frequently will be hanging out with someone who doesn't know my sexual preference and they will comment on a passing female. My response is usually something like this: "Yes, she's very pretty but I'm not attracted to females." This opens up a nice dialog where I can both inform the person about myself while also educating. They almost always will say "Oh, so you're gay." And I inform them I don't identify with that term but that I'm attracted exclusively to men. You can see the lightbulb go off above their head. And sometimes they will admit to having same sex feelings too but also hate being labelled.


    This. Being a homosexual does not mean anything correlates to being trans, and keeping the T in GLBT only perpetuate that misguided thought among most people, who are straight and even more worrisome, can vote.