Clinton-Sanders Ticket Suggested by Sanders Campaign Strategist

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    Mar 16, 2016 3:12 PM GMT
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-strategist-opens-door-for-clinton-sanders-ticket
    The top strategist for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) floated the idea Monday that Sanders could be a running mate for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton even as he added that no one is talking about that in the throes of a primary battle.

    During an appearance on Politico's Glenn Thrush's Off Message' podcast, Tad Devine suggested that one way Clinton may be able to make up ground with young voters would be to add Sanders as her running mate....

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    Mar 16, 2016 3:18 PM GMT
    If he doesn't get the nom, I'd rather Clinton nominate him for the SEC, or Treasury.
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    Mar 16, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
    Somewhere in the cabinet for sure. I was hoping like putting a tooth under a pillow that his message would catch on better but I wasn't really expecting the public to open its eyes so quickly to the reality that the wealth of the nation has been being redistributed to the wealthy for two generations now. They were so sneaky about their thieving that people first have to admit that they allowed themselves to be scammed. It's like realizing a "friend" was just using you or that you were in a housing bubble or a tech bubble or any bubble that you can't see while you are inside one.

    And he was trying to fix--or rather to at least make people aware of--in just a few months what the scamming thieves have had the last nearly 50 years to hijack. I kind of figured it was a lost cause when Bloomberg decided against running. He said it was because he didn't think he could win. But I'd bet the real reason was that he determined Bernie was no longer an immediate threat to his moneyed friends.

    Another article I noticed was suggesting Warren but just imagine the hate that would come out against two females on one ticket. Yikes. She also ought to be in the cabinet though.
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    Mar 16, 2016 4:18 PM GMT
    I must be more of a Macchiavellian than most people here. When Clinton nails the nomination she will drop Sanders like a hot potato. She want want to be saddled with his socialist agenda! Talk about a way to motivate people leaning in the fence towards Trump!!! Young people hardly vote and those heart-on-their-sleeve idealists supporting Sanders will pick her over Trump anyway (most, not all). She can forget about them. She needs to re-calibrate her message to grab the fence sitters.
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    Mar 16, 2016 4:35 PM GMT
    In the online forums, and among callers on Washington Journal, I hear a lot of Sander's supporters claim Trump is their second choice. I find this pretty unbelievable, except for those who only want a non-establishment candidate. There might be some overlap between the two policy-wise, but they would be completely different presidents, obviously. And, I say nobody knows Trump's real position on most issues. He has done no deeds with which to compare to his words. Sander's we know has been delivering the same message consistently for as long as he's been in public service.

    That all said, if there is polling data that shows Hillary will lose to Trump because of support from Sander's people, I am sure she'll take steps to negate that.
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    Mar 16, 2016 4:48 PM GMT
    YVRguy saidI must be more of a Macchiavellian than most people here. When Clinton nails the nomination she will drop Sanders like a hot potato. She want want to be saddled with his socialist agenda! Talk about a way to motivate people leaning in the fence towards Trump!!! Young people hardly vote and those heart-on-their-sleeve idealists supporting Sanders will pick her over Trump anyway (most, not all). She can forget about them. She needs to re-calibrate her message to grab the fence sitters.


    I agree. I think she will go for someone who is likely to appeal to mainstream Dems and wavering Republicans, given the latter probably won't have anyone from their own party to rally round by then. Wesley Clark perhaps? He's generally admired and respected across the board by politicians and voters alike.
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    Mar 16, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
    Hypertrophile saidIn the online forums, and among callers on Washington Journal, I hear a lot of Sander's supporters claim Trump is their second choice. I find this pretty unbelievable, except for those who only want a non-establishment candidate. There might be some overlap between the two policy-wise, but they would be completely different presidents, obviously. And, I say nobody knows Trump's real position on most issues. He has done no deeds with which to compare to his words. Sander's we know has been delivering the same message consistently for as long as he's been in public service.

    That all said, if there is polling data that shows Hillary will lose to Trump because of support from Sander's people, I am sure she'll take steps to negate that.


    The Sanders/Trump hybrid people also boggle my mind. The only way I can justify their existence is to think them morons. My only hope is that they are the hybrid parrot which doesn't reproduce a next generation and not a hybrid wolf (I've raised one) which can produce a following litter.

    I get the points made elsewhere about socialism but Sanders is about democratic socialism, so all the tingeing of communism has been a load of malarkey.

    The weird thing (to me) is that changes Bernie might have seeded (and I hope he already accomplished that) even as president would take generations to affect the building up of what must come from the base. Whereas, typical of authoritarian destruction, the detrimental effects of Trump could ravage this country in one term, toppled from the top.

    But you are wrong on a point, that "he has done no deeds with which to compare to his words" unless by that you mean his deeds counter his words because it isn't just that his deeds have not lived up to his words but that his words lie about his deeds. Bring back American jobs that he himself exports? Perhaps you were being diplomatic.

    Whereas Sanders was not simply delivering the same words consistently throughout his career. He lived his words. His actions matched his words. This is a man of integrity. He worked tirelessly. His wife was a college president. They've purposely lived a middle-class life, staying in touch with the people.

    For what I've been shown so far in the press about what seems like email nonsense, I have no issues voting Clinton, not Trump, should she get the primary (Sanders got my primary vote, of course). But to the political me, either Trump or Clinton is a Corporate win, a 1% win. Clinton maybe somewhat a social win. But neither an absolute American win with America working for its people, for its working class, and not just for the profit of international investors using the blood of young American soldiers, the sweat of American labor to open new & maintain markets for their meaningless widgets.
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    Mar 16, 2016 6:40 PM GMT
    You got it. Because Sanders actions in congress align perfectly with his public statements, we know exactly what we're getting. We only know how Trump would behave in a business setting, but in spite of oft used analogies, running a government is not the same as running a business. They have different, though not always exclusive, goals, for one.

    We also know that Trump seems to do everything off the cuff, which is dangerous on the global stage.
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    Mar 17, 2016 12:24 AM GMT
    It will never happen. If it does happen, the Democrats should just send Justice Roberts to the Trump Tower in Manhattan, Bible in hand.