North Carolina attorney general's office will NOT defend HB2

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    Mar 30, 2016 1:27 AM GMT
    dont worry folks it is all political but NC attorney general refuses to defend state from any and future HB2 challenges

    the state will have to hire outside counsel
    now NC will have to track the legal expenses

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    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article68780657.html
  • KissTheSky

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    Mar 30, 2016 2:44 AM GMT
    This is called moral leadership by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General. Standing up for what's right, and refusing to defend REPUBLICAN bigotry.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 30, 2016 12:10 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThis is called moral leadership by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General. Standing up for what's right, and refusing to defend REPUBLICAN bigotry.
    You mean right wing bigotry. Stop painting all republicans with a broad brush you bumbling idiot.
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    Mar 30, 2016 3:06 PM GMT
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    KissTheSky saidThis is called moral leadership by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General. Standing up for what's right, and refusing to defend REPUBLICAN bigotry.
    You mean right wing bigotry. Stop painting all republicans with a broad brush you bumbling idiot.

    He correctly means Republican bigotry. The NC Governor and the Legislature that created HB2 to persecute LGBT are not members of the Right Wing Party. They belong to the Republican Party.

    And likewise in all the instances across the US where anti-LGBT legislation has been passed or proposed. It is always the Republican Party at work. This kind of hostility to gay rights is even contained in National & State Republican Party platforms, on which their candidates run.

    I have never heard of any LGBT-hateful legislation being passed, or pro-LGBT legislation being defeated, by elected members of this so-called Right Wing Party. The Republicans own it, baby. Your little attempt at political semantics to shield Republicans from their own voting history fails.
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    Mar 30, 2016 3:36 PM GMT
    Dissembling again, Artless, or is it just Miss Bloody Mary speaking? (And, at such an early hour!) How soon you forget that it was GA's GOP governor who recently vetoed anti-gay legislation in his state, AND that several NC Democrats voted for the bill involved there.

    As for NC's AG, he took an oath to defend the laws of that state. If he disagrees with them, he should resign instead of breaking his oath and violating the trust people put in him to do his job. The Dispensing Power hasn't been part of the Anglo-American constitutional system since 1688, and Obama's best efforts to revive it, or encourage others like this AG to follow it, are as unfounded as they are without merit. Yes, the law is a stupid one, but throwing it out is a job for the courts, not the AG. The "moral high road" allegedly taken by the AG here is nothing more than a roundabout route to lawlessness.
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    Mar 30, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidDissembling again, Artless, or is it just Miss Bloody Mary speaking? (And, at such an early hour!) How soon you forget that it was GA's GOP governor who recently vetoed anti-gay legislation in his state, AND that several NC Democrats voted for the bill involved there.

    When you resort to baseless ad hominem attacks against me you've already lost the argument. Shows how weak your own arguments must be.

    And what YOU seem to have forgotten in Georgia is that the Governor vetoed a REPUBLICAN anti-LGBT bill. You apparently believe the veto of a Democratic Governor got all the Republicans off the hook for having passed it in the first place. Along with the Georgia voters who elected these bigoted Republican clowns to the legislature.

    Clowns who meanwhile are plotting a way around the Governor's veto, since a vote on a veto override may not be doable, the legislative session having adjourned, and for other procedural reasons. Along with other non-elective groups, mostly religious oriented, who have declared the fight against gays will continue. They hope in the next legislative session.

    Per another thread where you slandered me, yeah, I know exactly how friendly Georgia is to gays, in all its voting population. The gubernatorial veto of one man does not change that. But nice try at blurring the facts, a typical Republican tactic.
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:05 PM GMT
    There was nothing baseless about your drunken motorcycle rides around Seattle you regaled us with in another post; your references to your drinking are rampant, even if they eventually leave you couchant: you're lucky you didn't injure or kill anyone! As for GA's alleged hostility to gays, how else to explain ATL's being a major gay center - even if it's no Wilted Manners - than by it all being the result of a "plot?" You sound even more ridiculous with each succeeding script.
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 30, 2016 4:17 PM GMT
    ^^^Typical. Republicans can't argue policy so they resort to slander. Go vote for your hero-- let's see, is it Trump or Cruz? Boy, those are the perfect symbols for both you and your Republican buddies.
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:33 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said^^^Typical. Republicans can't argue policy so they resort to slander. Go vote for your hero-- let's see, is it Trump or Cruz? Boy, those are the perfect symbols for both you and your Republican buddies.

    The policy and political arguments were made earlier, but you chose to ignore them. And, stating the facts - especially when supplied by the person complaining about them - amounts to neither slander nor libel. I'm not one to turn the other cheek, but to tell it like it is and reply in kind. If you can't handle that, tough.
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:50 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidThere was nothing baseless about your drunken motorcycle rides around Seattle you regaled us with in another post; your references to your drinking are rampant, even if they eventually leave you couchant: you're lucky you didn't injure or kill anyone! As for GA's alleged hostility to gays, how else to explain ATL's being a major gay center - even if it's no Wilted Manners - than by it all being the result of a "plot?" You sound even more ridiculous with each succeeding script.

    I think you're the one hugging the bottle this morning. I never rode around Seattle drunken on my motorcycles. I went to some gay clubs on them. When I drink it's measured and controlled, never more so than when I'm on a motorcycle.

    Riding a bike requires a lot more skill & coordination than driving a car. My general rule was 1 drink max, then wait a full hour afterwards before I got back on the bike. I assure you that's a lot more self-discipline than many bikers have.

    And BTW, I've traveled all through Georgia, was also stationed there in the Army. It's more than Atlanta. The proof is at the voter polls, and in the actions of their elected state legislature and local governments. An inconvenient fact you simply won't address. And when did I use the word plot? Another of your inventions, like my alleged drunkenness on my motorcycles? You really are just a mean, nasty bigot.
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:58 PM GMT
    From a post or two above:
    "Clowns who meanwhile are plotting a way around the Governor's veto,
    since a vote on a veto override may not be doable, the legislative session having adjourned, and for other procedural reasons. Along with other non-elective groups, mostly religious oriented, who have declared the fight against gays will continue. They hope in the next legislative session."


    And, you know what? People actually do vote for people and causes not because they are pro- or anti-gay! It's not egocentric, sure, and maybe it's even "insensitive" - whatever that means - but it's a legitimate exercise of one's vote. The world is not gay-centric and there are A LOT more things and people out there in it then those who concern themselves solely with gaydom.
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    Mar 30, 2016 6:57 PM GMT
    Drugs, cutting off or adding boobs and penises don't make males and females.

    Its about chromosomes:

    In humans, each cell normally contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, for a total of 46. Twenty-two of these pairs, called autosomes, look the same in both males and females. The 23rd pair, the sex chromosomes, differ between males and females.

    Biological Males should use the Mens Room.
    Biological Females should use the Womens Room.

    New construction and new business should be legislated to allow single patron restrooms for people who have chosen to mutilate themselves into a hybrid creature.

    Liberals:
    50 cents is NOT a dollar.
    Obama is NOT black, he's mixed race.
    Someone who uses drugs and surgery to try and change sexes can never be converted fully to the opposite sex.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 30, 2016 9:43 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    roadbikeRob said
    KissTheSky saidThis is called moral leadership by a DEMOCRAT Attorney General. Standing up for what's right, and refusing to defend REPUBLICAN bigotry.
    You mean right wing bigotry. Stop painting all republicans with a broad brush you bumbling idiot.

    He correctly means Republican bigotry. The NC Governor and the Legislature that created HB2 to persecute LGBT are not members of the Right Wing Party. They belong to the Republican Party.

    And likewise in all the instances across the US where anti-LGBT legislation has been passed or proposed. It is always the Republican Party at work. This kind of hostility to gay rights is even contained in National & State Republican Party platforms, on which their candidates run.

    I have never heard of any LGBT-hateful legislation being passed, or pro-LGBT legislation being defeated, by elected members of this so-called Right Wing Party. The Republicans own it, baby. Your little attempt at political semantics to shield Republicans from their own voting history fails.
    WRONG! As usual, painting all republicans as bigots rather than taking the time out to expose the right wing of the GOP. Your inaccurate generalizations are not only false by highly irritating.icon_mad.gif
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    Mar 31, 2016 11:32 AM GMT
    This bill also ban government's anti-discrimination law regarding sexual orientation too, right?
    So this affect gay, lesbian, and bisexual community too.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 31, 2016 11:51 AM GMT
    Ronar2 saidThis bill also ban government's anti-discrimination law regarding sexual orientation too, right?
    So this affect gay, lesbian, and bisexual community too.
    The whole problem here is that we allowed those gender bending radicals known as transgenders to remain part of the gay, lesbian, and bisexual community. This is an angry right wing backlash against that undesirable element in our community but it is hurting us all as a result.icon_mad.gif
  • Mathdude08

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    Apr 01, 2016 4:47 AM GMT
    Oh BOY! I can't wait for the day (which is not matter of if, but WHEN) all of these "oh yea, I cut off my dick so now that MUST mean i'm a female" idiots who wander into a females bathroom while someones child is in there and the mother tells the police that this FAKE he/she was looking at them in a sexual way or making advancements toward them and files charges soon. HELLO future Sex Offender! Welcome to the conditions of the Adam Walsh Act and the Sex Offender Registry!

    Call it whatever you want, but when it comes to the battle of sexes in the U.S Justice system, biological females have ALWAYS been more protected in circumstances like this when they include their child in the legal issue at hand. So for all the the surgically changed fake transgendered people, walk right on in the females bathroom while someone elses child is in their. I can't wait when your face is plastered on every Sex Offender list for acting like the total dumbass that you are.
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    Apr 02, 2016 12:05 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    I have never heard of any LGBT-hateful legislation being passed, or pro-LGBT legislation being defeated, by elected members of this so-called Right Wing Party. The Republicans own it, baby. Your little attempt at political semantics to shield Republicans from their own voting history fails.

    WRONG! As usual, painting all republicans as bigots rather than taking the time out to expose the right wing of the GOP. Your inaccurate generalizations are not only false by highly irritating.icon_mad.gif

    Of course, you're so right! (Pun intended). These bigots do NOT campaign and get elected as Republicans. They do NOT run on official Republican campaign platforms that spell out their bigotry, and how they will implement it.

    But when someone becomes as delusional as you are, and believes Republicans have nothing to do with the bigotry and discrimination we see being enacted in US States across the country, then discussion really becomes impossible. Or someone like you who contends that because a small minority of Republicans don't hold those beliefs (but obviously not enough to keep the radicals from being elected in growing numbers), then ALL Republicans are exonerated from the taint of the majority.

    WRONG! The monolithic Party of No, which has tests for loyalty, brooks no heresy. So that when you vote for one Republican you vote for them all, including these radicals in States like North Carolina and Mississippi.

    And BTW, scroll back and read what I wrote. I was initially focusing on the Republican PARTY, not on voters and ordinary citizens. You distorted my words to apply to something I did not write nor intend.
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    Apr 02, 2016 4:29 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    roadbikeRob said
    Art_Deco said
    . . . [One-sided rhetoric deleted]

    WRONG! As usual, painting all republicans as bigots rather than taking the time out to expose the right wing of the GOP. Your inaccurate generalizations are not only false by highly irritating.icon_mad.gif

    Of course, you're so right! (Pun intended). These bigots do NOT campaign and get elected as Republicans. They do NOT run on official Republican campaign platforms that spell out their bigotry, and how they will implement it.

    But when someone becomes as delusional as you are, and believes Republicans have nothing to do with the bigotry and discrimination we see being enacted in US States across the country, then discussion really becomes impossible. Or someone like you who contends that because a small minority of Republicans don't hold those beliefs (but obviously not enough to keep the radicals from being elected in growing numbers), then ALL Republicans are exonerated from the taint of the majority.

    WRONG! The monolithic Party of No, which has tests for loyalty, brooks no heresy. So that when you vote for one Republican you vote for them all, including these radicals in States like North Carolina and Mississippi.

    And BTW, scroll back and read what I wrote. I was initially focusing on the Republican PARTY, not on voters and ordinary citizens. You distorted my words to apply to something I did not write nor intend.

    You're wrong on all counts, Artless. Some of these bigots DO run as GOPers, just as they once did as Demos; your habit of distinguishing Dixiecrats from Demos, but not moderate GOPers from their intolerant colleagues is literally hypocritical. And, rbB never said that "[GOPers] have nothing to to with the bigotry ... [sweeping, overbroad posturing deleted]." But, apparently neither he nor any other GOPer had to, since "the taint [don't go there!] of the majority" applies to all.

    And, just what are those "tests for loyalty" that make a vote for one GOPer a vote for all, from the most innocuous school board seat in the Midwest, to the Supreme Ct. of AL? To the extent that you're even able to identify them, how do they differ from Demos' "tests?" As usual, you're way off, and succeed again only in displaying your own intolerant inability to think in any terms other than those which relate to - if not regale - yourself. So please, don't lecture anyone on "distorting your words;" they speak all too plainly for themselves.