Contrary to popular belief, Americans don't have an innate allergy to socialism -- People are learning they've been socialists all along only they didn't know it

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    Mar 30, 2016 2:05 AM GMT
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    article circa 2013
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/19/seattle-socialist-city-council-kshama-sawant
    The election of Kshama Sawant, a socialist, to the city council of Seattle seems like dropping a pebble in the ocean...

    But her election does show that not only was she not afraid to be a socialist, people were not afraid of electing one. It's not just that socialism is coming into fashion; people are finding out that maybe they've been socialists this whole time and didn't know it. ...

    ...the liberal achievements of the New Deal, such as Social Security, were the result of pressure from the growing popularity of the Socialist...The achievements of the labor movement, such as the eight-hour work day, are the result of the agitation of radical unionists....

    Senator Joe McCarthy and FBI Director J Edgar Hoover were successful in undoing a lot of that progress with their witch hunts. And it was easier during the most tense moments in the Cold War for the right to malign socialists, even if they were opposed to Soviet-style authoritarianism. The mere word brought to mind images of bread lines and secret police. American capitalism always looked good by comparison. Besides, no one likes a traitor.

    But not only has the quality of American economic life vastly declined since the fall of the Berlin Wall, that horrific image doesn't exist anymore. Further, millennials, a demographic acutely and adversely affected by the economic downturn, have little to no memory of the hammer and sickle, and when one thinks where socialism exists in the world, they don't think of Russia, they think of social democracies like Denmark. Even Switzerland, a country most closely associated with the banking industry, is considering a universal basic income.

    It isn't just the Fox News anchors of the world who try to denounce any progressive economic policy as dreaded socialism. The American left has also had aversion to go all-in with the term. The 1999 protests against the World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle were called "anti-corporate", rather than "anti-capitalist"


    ...being labeled a socialist these days should be taken as a compliment.

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    Mar 30, 2016 2:26 PM GMT
    Nah- that's crap.
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    Mar 30, 2016 3:28 PM GMT
    desertmuscl saidNah- that's crap.

    You got that right! That - and a documented pattern of psychotic anger - is all he's good for, especially in recycled posts like this one. Any American who needs The Guardian to define his country's politics for him is obviously out of touch.
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    Mar 30, 2016 3:52 PM GMT
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    desertmuscl saidNah- that's crap.

    You got that right! That - and a documented pattern of psychotic anger - is all he's good for, especially in recycled posts like this one. Any American who needs The Guardian to define his country's politics for him is obviously out of touch.


    Any American who is so fat that you can't even see your own dick--and who the fuck would want to see that smelly thing anyway, so we can't really blame you for having grown a flap over it--ought not complain about Americans who can see ourselves from various views.

    Perhaps a surgical cheek reduction would widen your view of things. Do they do those? Or if you just lost 150 lbs, I bet you'd be able to see outside your ass again.



    Your disgusting bathroom noises to follow...
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:09 PM GMT
    Careful with those references to Georgian England - they come awfully close to putting you back in Bedlam where you belong.
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    Mar 30, 2016 4:26 PM GMT
    You are fat and you are ugly and that's just your head and your heart. No one gives a flying fuck for what you say.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 31, 2016 1:39 AM GMT
    Well the U.S. has become the land of corporate socialism where both the NFL (football) and the NL(baseball) get hundreds of millions of tax dollars to design and build new sports stadiums with no strings attached. icon_mad.gif
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    Apr 01, 2016 12:53 AM GMT
    Sometimes these remarks are rich, when neither person has lived in a communist or socialist country, or in a social democracy.
  • musclmed

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    Apr 01, 2016 2:28 AM GMT
    Thanks for the laugh. Now its confirmed you dont get out that much.

    Seattle? ..... You forgot the San Francisco board of Supervisors. Get real....

    Its the reason why they have to advertise on Craigslist to protest Trump in Wisconsin
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 01, 2016 1:18 PM GMT
    It's true. All of us are born socialists. Then we grow up. At least most of us do.

    PS: Our rights are not granted to us by the government.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 03, 2016 9:04 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidIt's true. All of us are born socialists. Then we grow up. At least most of us do.

    PS: Our rights are not granted to us by the government.
    Well than the wealthy team owners in the NFL have never grown up because they always have their hands to the politicians and the taxpayers for more free money to spend as they freely please.