pouncer saidMan, there sure are a lot of self-hating LGBTs on this site.
What a bitter irony that the trans experience, and conscientious objection, are foreign concepts on a site like this.
Many of us are as you say "self hating" because LGBT doesn't represent those of us who believe in the basics, and not making a scene/causing drama (which trannies/drag queens do) for attention. We're gay, so what? move on with life, don't ruin the word "gay" by giving us a bad image!
Oh please. Who gives a fuck what the gay image appears like to our oppressors. Stop trying to be like them.You unhappy gheys on RJ are constantly justifying your masculinity it's nauseating. How bout you do you without any labels attached? Try not to stress yourself out about the drag queens having harmless fun for attention.
You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You tell us to shed the labels and at the same time you expect us to embrace the LGBTXYZ bullshit as if that's not the most ridiculous label of all. Make up your fucking mind.
And no one is "justifying" anything. You point your finger at anyone who uses the word "masculine" as if it's some sort of offensive term. But you're just fine if someone claims to be fem. I'm a MAN and I will not be shunned into cowering down from using this word. However it says a lot about you that you're so against it. A whole lot.
I never said anything about embracing LGBTQ anything and you don't know a damn thing about me. A whole lot of nothing.
You say you're "sick and tired" of what other people think regarding the gay scene. A personal problem. I can say a slew of negative things about the LGBTQ community and you and a few others would follow but that's the same repetitive notion you get here and the forums continue to go downhill. I don't really stay in the box.
So to clarify, there's nothing wrong with being masculine or feminine at all unless you have a superiority complex about it and you friggin do. Feminism can be nauseating too but you tried. Some effeminate guys may be extremely obnoxious with how they act but you just don't see them stating the obvious like these masc4masc folks that are meme gold... You can go on and pretend like there's not thousands of moderate to extreme effeminate men claiming to be masc on whatever profile they're on. Not because they don't want to be shunned into cowering down from using the word but because they don't even want to acknowledge/are ashamed of the fact that they have a feminine side too. I'm personally attracted to strong men who are in touch with their feminine side. I think it's important.
I also find it interesting how these hindering "trannies" that are lumped in the same category as you are able to attract all these masculine men. Flamboyant twinks are attracting masc men too, so who exactly are you mad at?