Are there any gay MEN out there?

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    Apr 04, 2016 2:37 AM GMT
    Hello I'm getting really fed up with the gay guys that I'm meeting. All of them talk and act like women. If I wanted someone who talks and acts like a women I would get a real fucking women. Is the whole gay man who acts like an actual dude just a fantasy or does it actually exists. And before all of you feminine gays get offended I don't need someone who acts masculine. I just don't want someone who doesn't acts feminine. It annoys the fucking shit out of me. I'm gay for a reason and it's because I like men. Real men not men who act and talk like a women.
  • mystery905

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    Apr 04, 2016 2:46 AM GMT
    Amen!
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    Apr 04, 2016 4:05 AM GMT
    Most of the gay men I meet are regular guys. Yes, I see the guys who act like women but for the most part most gay guys are not the typical effeminate stereotype.
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    Apr 04, 2016 4:06 AM GMT
    You can't find a "real man" in Texas?! WTF is the world coming to?
  • Ariodante83

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    Apr 04, 2016 4:13 AM GMT
    #mennotmanlyenoughformethread
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    Apr 04, 2016 4:21 AM GMT
    needsomebodytohold said I'm gay for a reason and it's because I like men.


    Think about that statement....

    Most girls like men. Do you see the correlation?


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    Apr 04, 2016 12:06 PM GMT
    And you just scream masculinity. Yawn
  • rdberg1957

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    Apr 04, 2016 1:00 PM GMT
    Masculinity and femininity are cultural constructs. What is considered masculine in one culture may be considered feminine in another. Your writing sounds angry; men you meet aren't meeting your standards for masculinity. Maybe it's time you look inside and see why you're so angry about this.

    Personally, I have lots of masculine attributes, at least externally. My first partner said, "you don't read gay." However, if anyone gets to know me, I have many feminine attributes (empathy, nurturing, emotional warmth). I like those qualities. I wouldn't be happy without them.

    The first men who fought for gay rights weren't straight-acting and straight-appearing. They were drag queens. They were people who couldn't blend in so they fought. What's more masculine than that?

    That being said, I don't enjoy drag, but do enjoy female impersonation (rarely seen these days).

    I had a partner who on the outside appeared feminine and his laugh was high-pitched. HIs mind was like a steel trap; he was a brilliant scientist. Very logical.

    One place I learned a lot about being male and being a man was the Mankind Project. In 2012, I went to a Gateway weekend for GBT men. I met the full gamut of masculinities. It's important to remember that "all man" just ain't so. Almost all males are half female biologically.
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    Apr 04, 2016 1:12 PM GMT
    Many concepts about manhood, masculinity, womanhood, femininity sexuality are outdated relics of the 1850's. Update your concepts.
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    Apr 04, 2016 2:02 PM GMT
    rdberg1957 saidMasculinity and femininity are cultural constructs.
    ...

    Personally, I have lots of masculine attributes, at least externally. My first partner said, "you don't read gay." However, if anyone gets to know me, I have many feminine attributes (empathy, nurturing, emotional warmth)...


    Cultural constructs? Not entirely unless you completely disregard the role hormones play in the development of male and female. There's a reason boys tend to be more boisterous and active and little girls tend to be more verbal and can sit for hours "conversing" with their dolls and stuffed animals.

    And since when are "empathy, nurturing, emotional warmth" solely feminine traits? I would argue that some cultures may cause males to suppress these attributes but that doesn't mean they aren't there.
  • Relajado

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    Apr 04, 2016 3:19 PM GMT
    Topic creator is in a bunch of camp photos - tbh I wouldn't have thoufhr you were particularly masculine?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 04, 2016 5:46 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can't find a "real man" in Texas?! WTF is the world coming to?
    He lives horrendously overrated, arrogant Austin the sprawled out suburban land where all the gay men are limp wristed, booze chugging, cigarette smoking pansies. Probably if he relocated either to San Antonio, Fort Worth, Dallas, or Houston he will see more manly gay men who act like real men. icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 04, 2016 6:19 PM GMT
    A lot of these "masculine" men are often closeted, married to women and want nothing to do with you outside of random one time hook-ups. If that is what you want, then you'll find plenty of those types.

    That isn't to say there aren't really hyper masculine out gay men, because there are plenty of them.
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    Apr 04, 2016 6:23 PM GMT
    Relajado saidTopic creator is in a bunch of camp photos - tbh I wouldn't have thoufhr you were particularly masculine?


    Cheap shot. I find nothing campy about his photos. Maybe we have different ideas as to what camp is.
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    Apr 04, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can't find a "real man" in Texas?! WTF is the world coming to?
    He lives horrendously overrated, arrogant Austin the sprawled out suburban land where all the gay men are limp wristed, booze chugging, cigarette smoking pansies. Probably if he relocated either to San Antonio, Fort Worth, Dallas, or Houston he will see more manly gay men who act like real men. icon_wink.gif


    I love how people who say such things always have the biggest gayface in the room. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
  • Wendigo9

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    Apr 04, 2016 9:47 PM GMT
    Agreed all the way, men are men and women are women, I can understand acting the opposite while joking around, but seriously! I question if those fem-like men even have balls, hell are they even called "men"? sure don't act like men.
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    Apr 04, 2016 11:14 PM GMT
    Try a leather bar. Or perhaps in Texas, they have "western" gay bars. But real "MEN" as you call them, are probably older than 22.
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    Apr 05, 2016 12:51 AM GMT
    Jitz627 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can't find a "real man" in Texas?! WTF is the world coming to?
    He lives horrendously overrated, arrogant Austin the sprawled out suburban land where all the gay men are limp wristed, booze chugging, cigarette smoking pansies. Probably if he relocated either to San Antonio, Fort Worth, Dallas, or Houston he will see more manly gay men who act like real men.


    I love how people who say such things always have the biggest gayface in the room. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


    No, that's the wrong tack. roadbikeRob's looks are irrelevant. I think with him it's personal. When he lived in Austin, somebody sheltered their cat in his vagina and he's been stuck with the smell of that rotting pussy ever since.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 05, 2016 1:41 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    Jitz627 said
    roadbikeRob said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidYou can't find a "real man" in Texas?! WTF is the world coming to?
    He lives horrendously overrated, arrogant Austin the sprawled out suburban land where all the gay men are limp wristed, booze chugging, cigarette smoking pansies. Probably if he relocated either to San Antonio, Fort Worth, Dallas, or Houston he will see more manly gay men who act like real men.


    I love how people who say such things always have the biggest gayface in the room. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


    No, that's the wrong tack. roadbikeRob's looks are irrelevant. I think with him it's personal. When he lived in Austin, somebody sheltered their cat in his vagina and he's been stuck with the smell of that rotting pussy ever since.
    Mr. Angry Austinite strikes again with his utter stupidity.icon_evil.gif
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    Apr 05, 2016 2:08 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidMr. Angry Austinite strikes again with his utter stupidity.
    I wonder, when you left Austin in a huff, was it because your vulva was battered by the fat piles of irony you kept squeezing out?
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    Apr 05, 2016 4:29 AM GMT
    Usually I find them to be regular guys- not women.

  • Coast

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    Apr 05, 2016 4:36 AM GMT
    I see piles and piles of salt here...

    As for what the OP was saying, sounds to me you're conflicted in how you view yourself in relation to other people. I think your idea of what a man is, is somewhat warped (I think all people have their warped expectations).

    People can be who they want to be so long you're not an asshole to your fellow human being icon_evil.gif
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    Apr 05, 2016 5:03 AM GMT
    I think for some gay scenes, into the scene, they act differently as a way to get attention, and feel like they belong in gay culture.

    Many gay guys I know are very masculine, confident, and so on. They're the guys you'll never see being outlandish at a gay pride parade, because they just don't behave that way. Many times, they have self confidence, and walk to their own drummer.

    You're in Austin, with a huge gay community. You'll find more folks less femmy as you go along. Those guys won't be the flamers strutting around or calling folks names like daddy, twink, bear, otter, etc...and all that other nonsense. They're gay, and they're o.k. with it. They like being guys. We can talk about culture, but, reality is, that men are men, and women are women. Society is evolving. Men do things that wasn't in their domain until just 30 years ago... eyebrows...shave...manicures..pedicures..facials, etc. That's a good evolution, but, we all have personalities with which we click. If a guy shows up with pink shoes, swishing, and a man purse...Sorry..not my type.

    The flamers have caused a lot of bisexual, and gay, guys to steer clear of some of gay culture. They don't like the way it makes them feel around being gay, and, they're not into the whole swish, swoon, and limp wrist. They're normal...if you want to call it that.

    Everyone knows I'm gay. I can command a room with my physical presence, and intellect. I don't need to swish. LOL.

    Tolerance is the ticket. Understand...the really weird ones...are going to end up with a life of struggle. Sameness can be good sometimes. Sexual preference is what it is. If you haven't read The Kinsey Studies.

    I love testosterone. I love being a guy. And, in middle age, you get a case of the fuck its. You become much more secure, and very much less concerned about what other folks are trending. I wanta' drive a big fat truck? I do. I wanna' wear tights at the gym? I do. I wanna' shave everything? I do. I don't wanna' hang out with folks that have no commonality with me? I don't.
  • phillo

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    Apr 05, 2016 4:29 PM GMT
    needsomebodytohold saidHello I'm getting really fed up with the gay guys that I'm meeting. All of them talk and act like women. If I wanted someone who talks and acts like a women I would get a real fucking women. Is the whole gay man who acts like an actual dude just a fantasy or does it actually exists. And before all of you feminine gays get offended I don't need someone who acts masculine. I just don't want someone who doesn't acts feminine. It annoys the fucking shit out of me. I'm gay for a reason and it's because I like men. Real men not men who act and talk like a women.


    I don't act feminine at all.
  • Ariodante83

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    Apr 06, 2016 6:17 AM GMT
    aaand OP is gone