Judge Sides with Gay Brandeis Student Guilty of 'Serious Sexual Transgression' for Kissing Sleeping Boyfriend

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    Apr 04, 2016 12:40 PM GMT

    I'm shaking shake my head...

    Robby SoaveA judge rebuked Brandeis University for denying fundamental due process rights to a student who was found guilty of sexual misconduct for a variety of non-violent offenses: most notably, because he had awakened his then-boyfriend with nonconsensual kisses.

    The process that Brandeis employed to investigate the matter was "essentially secret and inquisitorial," according to Dennis Saylor, a federal judge who ruled that the accused student's lawsuit against Brandeis should continue.

    This is a significant victory for advocates of due process in campus sexual misconduct investigations.

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    read more at this link, very interesting icon_confused.gif
    http://reason.com/blog/2016/04/01/judge-sides-with-gay-brandeis-student-gu
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    Apr 04, 2016 5:10 PM GMT
    Boyfriendship should allow that.
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    Apr 04, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
    Sometimes I wake up my husband with nonconsensual oral sex.
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    Apr 04, 2016 11:30 PM GMT
    StephenOABC saidBoyfriendship should allow that.


    Absolutely.
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    Apr 05, 2016 12:19 AM GMT
    We can blame feminists for that one. That's insane.
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    Apr 05, 2016 12:46 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidSometimes I wake up my husband with nonconsensual oral sex.


    my favorite way to wake-up
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    Apr 05, 2016 1:14 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    KJSharp saidWe can blame feminists for that one. That's insane.


    Yep, or more broadly, the political left.


    Exactly.

    Behind them are the ambulance chasing lawyers who $$$$$ support the political left.....new revenue streams, suing for emotional trauma or other nonsense damages from these stupid laws.
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    Apr 05, 2016 1:31 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    KJSharp saidWe can blame feminists for that one. That's insane.


    Yep, or more broadly, the political left.
    You mean all the extremist liberal hensicon_cool.gificon_question.gif
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    Apr 05, 2016 11:23 AM GMT
    I do like the way the Federal Judge is forcing the University's feet to the fire for the "kangaroo Court" process employed. That this single university administrator has the power of judge, jury, investigator and executioner, and was selectively allowing "anecdotal"comments as evidence to convict, but not as a defense is just a sham.I would think this type of charge would potentially chill any type of romance, when a person can go back and say that a relationship that had since gone bad was all sexual violence and not consensual...as a vindictive retaliation. The University also places a derogatory comment on the personnel/transcript of the student related to an "alleged administrative ruling" of sexual misconduct....really? on your transcript? The University process needs this lawsuit to go on....The "process" is badly flawed and makes too many assumptions not supported with "facts in context".
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    Sporty_G saidI do like the way the Federal Judge is forcing the University's feet to the fire for the "kangaroo Court" process employed. That this single university administrator has the power of judge, jury, investigator and executioner, and was selectively allowing "anecdotal"comments as evidence to convict, but not as a defense is just a sham.I would think this type of charge would potentially chill any type of romance, when a person can go back and say that a relationship that had since gone bad was all sexual violence and not consensual...as a vindictive retaliation. The University also places a derogatory comment on the personnel/transcript of the student related to an "alleged administrative ruling" of sexual misconduct....really? on your transcript? The University process needs this lawsuit to go on....The "process" is badly flawed and makes too many assumptions not supported with "facts in context".

    I do too, and I hope it ends with a healthy award of attorneys' fees against Brandeis, if not some FRCvP 11 sanctions and costs along the way.
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    Apr 05, 2016 11:20 PM GMT
    all assaults not reported within 2 days should not be admissible.
    If you have to think about it being a crime or not, it wasnt.
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    Apr 06, 2016 12:44 AM GMT
    With such a policy of arbitrary persecution of its students, whey would any young person want to attend that university?
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    Apr 06, 2016 6:27 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    KJSharp saidWe can blame feminists for that one. That's insane.


    Yep, or more broadly, the political left.


    Right. All the world's problems are the fault of the political left. It's wonderful that things are so simple because it spares of of the need to think.
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    FRE0 said
    southbeach1500 said
    KJSharp saidWe can blame feminists for that one. That's insane.


    Yep, or more broadly, the political left.


    Right. All the world's problems are the fault of the political left. It's wonderful that things are so simple because it spares of of the need to think.

    I dontt know about all the world's problems, but if one nedds to think why this trend is happening in universities, it all start from Obama and Departement of Education, when that "dear college" letters happen in 2011. So colleges, afraid being cut from federal funding, start "toughen up" their procedures, most to the extreme and disregard due process. There's this congressman Jared Polis during congressional saying

    mediate.com
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    During a congressional hearing, the Colorado Democrat said, “If there’s ten people who have been accused, and under a reasonable likelihood standard maybe one or two did it, it seems better to get rid of all ten people. We’re not talking about depriving them of life and liberty. We’re talking about them transferred to another university.”

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    http://www.mediaite.com/online/dem-rep-polis-apologizes-for-comments-about-expelling-innocent-students-accused-of-rape/

    and then everyone all democrats clapped and cheered at his statements.
    and I don't think that's true about transferring to other university. Lot's of men who got expelled found it hard to transfer even to community college because of why they got expelled. That is injustice to me.

    But of course, there are always political groups and other politicians behind this move that urge Obama and his task force to do this. I wonder who they are.... icon_rolleyes.gif