LGBT History: How Times Change!

  • bro4bro

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    Apr 08, 2016 8:37 PM GMT
    I’ve been reading through a few old gay rights publications lately and came across an eye-opening item from 1978.

    In that year the major gay rights issue being discussed across the country was California Proposition 6, also known as the Briggs Initiative, sponsored by state senator John Briggs of famously conservative Orange County. Prop 6 would have made it illegal for gays and lesbians to be employed in public schools in California. Even straight teachers who discussed homosexuality in anything but a negative light would be fired. This was the political issue central to the plot in the movie Milk.

    A letter to the editor of Houston’s gay rights newspaper Upfront in late October 1978 blasted then-president Jimmy Carter for remaining silent on the issue, and hinted that he was sympathetic to Christian fundamentalist Anita Bryant’s anti-gay crusade. In part:

    “He has sat in DC and watched this co-religionist race from sea to shining sea spreading her own brand of pious intolerance throughout the ‘land of the free’ and he has said nothing. He has seen a neo-fascist movement jump onto the ballot in our largest state but he has said nothing.”

    When campaigning for the presidency in 1976, Carter had described himself as a “born-again Christian”, which made the gay community nervous. The Republican Party branded him a religious wacko – they hadn’t yet aligned themselves with the "religious right".

    Carter scored some points by appointing gay and womens’ rights advocate Midge Costanza as his “Assistant to the President for Public Liaison”, but after inviting 14 members of the National Gay Task Force to the White House at the height of Bryant’s anti-gay crusade her role was diminished, and in September of 1978 she resigned. Among the gay and feminist communities it was felt that Carter had fired her.

    The letter closes with the statement “Even Ronald Reagan opposes Proposition 6.” In fact the former California governor (and future president) had voiced strong opposition, even writing an editorial for the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner. Here’s a couple quotes:

    “What constitutes 'advocacy' of homosexuality? Would public opposition to Proposition 6 by a teacher - should it pass - be considered advocacy?”

    “Whatever else it is, homosexuality is not a contagious disease like the measles. Prevailing scientific opinion is that an individual's sexuality is determined at a very early age and that a child's teachers do not really influence this.”

    The Democratic Party and Jimmy Carter finally voiced opposition to Prop 6, mere days before the election. The measure failed by a comfortable margin, even in Orange County.

    Two years later in his campaign for the presidency, Reagan jumped into bed with Jerry Falwell and the “Moral Majority”, and the Republican Party has been championing the “religious wackos” ever since.
  • bro4bro

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    Apr 08, 2016 11:23 PM GMT
    Obviously you're young.

    Back in the day, all it took was an accusation.
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    Apr 08, 2016 11:49 PM GMT
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    My memory was that the Republicans started to embrace the religious right at about Roe v Wade in the 70s (see recently posted http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4202156 The Abortion of the Conservative Coalition) and I had a wonderful opportunity to have dinner the following decade with Sara Weddington who argued that case. I was with her for most of the night. Very smart lady. She of course had a running debate with the grand doucheous of the once conservative Republican Party Phyllis Schlafly.

    So my memory is Roe then to Anita that pie-faced bitch (I was in south Florida for that bit of fun--I hate her so much) and then Falwell kicked in at about that time on through the whole rest of it. I do remember your school teacher issue and that came on the heal of Anita's Save the Children crap. Have I mentioned how much I hate her?

    Googling just now, I found this interesting piece...

    http://billmoyers.com/content/timeline-the-religious-right-and-the-republican-platform/
    The Republican party platform of 1912 did not contain a single reference to God.

    The word faith appeared once, in the phrase “faith in government.” A century later, the 2012 Republican platform contains 10 references to God and 19 to faith — in phrases like “faith-based organizations,” and “faith communities.” What changed?

    The forty-year timeline below traces the increased inclusion in the platform of the language and ideals of the Religious Right.

    1972 The Republican party platform does not contain a single reference to God or religious issues.

    1976 Following the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision, the Republican platform calls for “a position on abortion that values human life.” It also asserts that “Our great American Republic was founded on the principle: One nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.”

    1980 A year after Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority, the Republican platform contains only one reference to God, but an entire section on abortion. While affirming the party’s “support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children”...

    1984 Following James Dobson’s founding of the Family Research Council in 1983, issues like sex education and sex and violence in the media appear in the party platform for the first time....

    1988 This was the year that right-wing televangelist Pat Robertson was a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination....

    1992 The year of Pat Buchanan’s infamous “culture wars” convention speech, the party unveils a platform with four references to God and seven references to “family values.” This is the first Republican party platform to address sexual preference, opposing the inclusion of sexual preference as a protected minority, rejecting any legislation which legally recognizes same-sex marriage and supporting the continued exclusion of homosexuals from the military....

    1996 This platform goes a step further, endorsing the Defense of Marriage Act to prevent states from recognizing same-sex unions...


    So yeah, it still looks to me like the GOP brought in God during the abortion debate and then they used their standard bearer, the fetus, to hit LGBT over the head with. What the GOP lacks in charm they make up for in being perfectly disgusting.
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    Apr 08, 2016 11:51 PM GMT
    Ah, the downside of blocking people. Every so often someone posts something that makes you go "huh?" because they respond to a comment you can't see.

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    Apr 09, 2016 2:54 AM GMT
    I have them on block too so rest assured if I've blocked them you really don't want to know what their comment was. I reserve the block feature for the truly odious slime.
  • ASHDOD

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    Apr 09, 2016 8:46 PM GMT


    And you were light years before everyone else, in gay rights ,so imagine how it was in other places

    in 1980 i was 14 and i saw on the back page of the most popular newspaper a pic titled, ''love in san Francisco' and there were two guys there siting on a law wall and kissing' and i remember thinking then ,how beautiful it looked, and another thing, there is a place in the world, where gay men can kiss in public ,and that place is called san Francisco, :
  • Wendigo9

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    Apr 10, 2016 5:12 AM GMT
    I've done a report on stonewall and the gay rights movement years ago, and the idea of pride was originally to confirm all equal human rights, regardless of what the over-the-top religous broad protested against. I think although a giant step forward towards acknowledging humanity and making individuality become the norm of society, there are some people in the crowd to this day who are going/willing/trying/planning to abuse it royally for their stupidity and crave for attention.

    Point Blank : We've come a long way, but there are still those who will ruin it for us.
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    Apr 10, 2016 7:53 AM GMT
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    My memory was that the Republicans started to embrace the religious right at about Roe v Wade in the 70s (see recently posted http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4202156 The Abortion of the Conservative Coalition) and I had a wonderful opportunity to have dinner the following decade with Sara Weddington who argued that case. I was with her for most of the night. Very smart lady. She of course had a running debate with the grand doucheous of the once conservative Republican Party Phyllis Schlafly.

    So my memory is Roe then to Anita that pie-faced bitch (I was in south Florida for that bit of fun--I hate her so much) and then Falwell kicked in at about that time on through the whole rest of it. I do remember your school teacher issue and that came on the heal of Anita's Save the Children crap. Have I mentioned how much I hate her?

    Googling just now, I found this interesting piece...

    http://billmoyers.com/content/timeline-the-religious-right-and-the-republican-platform/
    The Republican party platform of 1912 did not contain a single reference to God.

    The word faith appeared once, in the phrase “faith in government.” A century later, the 2012 Republican platform contains 10 references to God and 19 to faith — in phrases like “faith-based organizations,” and “faith communities.” What changed?

    The forty-year timeline below traces the increased inclusion in the platform of the language and ideals of the Religious Right.

    1972 The Republican party platform does not contain a single reference to God or religious issues.

    1976 Following the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision, the Republican platform calls for “a position on abortion that values human life.” It also asserts that “Our great American Republic was founded on the principle: One nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.”

    1980 A year after Jerry Falwell founded the Moral Majority, the Republican platform contains only one reference to God, but an entire section on abortion. While affirming the party’s “support of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children”...

    1984 Following James Dobson’s founding of the Family Research Council in 1983, issues like sex education and sex and violence in the media appear in the party platform for the first time....

    1988 This was the year that right-wing televangelist Pat Robertson was a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination....

    1992 The year of Pat Buchanan’s infamous “culture wars” convention speech, the party unveils a platform with four references to God and seven references to “family values.” This is the first Republican party platform to address sexual preference, opposing the inclusion of sexual preference as a protected minority, rejecting any legislation which legally recognizes same-sex marriage and supporting the continued exclusion of homosexuals from the military....

    1996 This platform goes a step further, endorsing the Defense of Marriage Act to prevent states from recognizing same-sex unions...


    So yeah, it still looks to me like the GOP brought in God during the abortion debate and then they used their standard bearer, the fetus, to hit LGBT over the head with. What the GOP lacks in charm they make up for in being perfectly disgusting.


    I've been saying for decades now, there is no longer a Republican Party in America — it has been replaced by the Religican Party!!!
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    Apr 11, 2016 12:37 AM GMT
    Conveniently Curiously, ever since giving themselves to God, has anyone noticed that whenever we fight for marriage for same sex couples or whenever we protest against discrimination towards LGBT or whenever we support a candidate who champions the rights for gay people to adopt a family of our own, the Gobs Of Poop levy the charge that we are single-issue voters.

    Yet when it comes to abortion, or stealing money giving vouchers from public schools' tax money to fund Christian "education", or whether gay Republicans vote for candidates who champion a platform discriminating to LGBT, somehow, that's not single issue voting.

    How does that work? Is it God's omnipresence permeating Republican pores breathing life into every aspect of religion so that only all the many various aspects of the Gay Rights Movement = single issue but not so with those of religion? How convenient.

    Or are they just being, surprise, hypocrites.

    Fucking Republicans. They act as if God is a handpuppet with their fist up his ass making Him say whatever at their will.

    I'd not be surprised if that one day backfires on them.

    They say God works in mysterious ways.