Israel holds its first transgender beauty contest

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    Apr 16, 2016 4:29 PM GMT
    Israel holds its first transgender beauty contest
    Isaac Scharf And Alon Bernstein, The Associated Press
    http://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/israel-holds-its-first-transgender-beauty-contest-1.2803464

    TEL AVIV, Israel -- Nearly 30 transgender women strutted down the catwalk in skinny jeans, crop tops and stiletto heels at a Tel Aviv club on Thursday, vying for a chance to enter the first "Miss Trans Israel" beauty pageant.

    Tel Aviv has emerged as one of the world's most gay-friendly travel destinations, standing in sharp contrast to most of the rest of the Middle East, where gays can face persecution.

    Israela Stephanie Lev, the pageant's organizer, said that in the past it was "terrible" living as a transgender woman in Israel. But today, people are more accepting, she said.

    "Definitely we are achieving, enlightening the people to accept and empower transsexuals," she said.

    Among the contestants was Talleen Abu Hanna, a 21-year-old from a Catholic Arab family in the northern city of Nazareth. She said she came to the audition because she wants to do something with her life.

    "I have this something, I am a dancer, and I am a singer, I play the trumpet. I have something to give the people," she said. Although Israel's more conservative Arab society is often unaccepting of gays, Abu Hanna said her family accepts and supports her.

    "We are normal people. This is normal," she said.

    Elian Nesiel, a 20-year-old contestant, said she believes that being transgender is "gradually accepted more and more."
    "Yes, it's a process, like everything," she said.

    Israel is generally tolerant toward gays and transgender people. Gays openly serve in Israel's military, as does at least one openly transgender soldier. In 1998, a transgender singer, Dana International, won the popular Eurovision song contest.

    But homosexuality is shunned in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities. Last year, an extremist ultra-Orthodox Jew stabbed a teenage girl to death at a Jerusalem Pride parade.

    [That attack was universally condemned by all parties across the political spectrum and the general population - including among the ultra-Orthodox who while they consider homosexuality a sin, view murder as worse.]

    Finalists will compete at a pageant in May, and the winner will represent Israel at the Miss Trans Star International pageant to be held in Spain in August.

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    Apr 18, 2016 5:00 AM GMT
    ROTFLMWAO!!! wow, the circus comes in all shapes and sizes.
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    Yes, Wendigo9, and that circus is known as humanity.
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    Apr 18, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidYes, Wendigo9, and that circus is known as humanity.

    They just need a harsh dose of reality, fake is not real
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    Apr 18, 2016 7:13 PM GMT
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    I blocked Paul for that racist post. Now I'm blocking Cody as well. I believe in two states for two peoples and am not a fan of either Netanyahu or Hamas.
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    Apr 18, 2016 11:00 PM GMT
    The haters and sock puppets have to politicize this thread, too...
    ...because there aren't enough political threads?
    (Oh, right, trolls can never discuss a topic in its thread, they just regurgitate their spam wherever they can.)

    See:

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    and early 20th century Arab denials of the existence of "Palestine".

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    Arabs (like Arabic) NOT indigenous to Israel
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4019405

    The Palestine Paradox
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2652202

    The Emergence of Palestinian Arab Nationalism
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4193729

    Let's talk peace: The two-state solution
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4180210
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    Apr 18, 2016 11:52 PM GMT
    They are factual.
    If anything is "misleading", post and correct (or at least challenge) it there.

    GladiatorSam said^ Those threads you posted above aren't hateful and misleading? Looks who's talking.
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    Apr 19, 2016 5:48 AM GMT
    Trolls can never discuss a topic in its thread, they just regurgitate their spam wherever they can

    [They prove me right]

    Just "report" the posts.


    Now back to this thread:

    Israel holds its first transgender beauty contest


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    Apr 20, 2016 9:50 AM GMT
    One thing I absolutely dislike about MTF trans people is that they either dress themselves like a trashy attention seeking slut or cover themselves in drab like a granny.
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:10 PM GMT
    The anti-Trans posts here are just as disconcerting as those who have revealed that they hate Jews/Israel more than they care for transgendered people and issues.
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    Apr 21, 2016 7:25 AM GMT
    ricky1987 saidOne thing I absolutely dislike about MTF trans people is that they either dress themselves like a trashy attention seeking slut or cover themselves in drab like a granny.


    Interesting that your experience has been the polar opposite of mine. I've only met about three MTF transgendered people, but each of them came across to me as very mild-mannered, kind, and decent and dressed pretty conservatively.

    Drag queens in gay bars are a totally different story. Most of them are usually over-the-top obnoxious and very confrontational.
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    Allen said
    ricky1987 saidOne thing I absolutely dislike about MTF trans people is that they either dress themselves like a trashy attention seeking slut or cover themselves in drab like a granny.


    Interesting that your experience has been the polar opposite of mine. I've only met about three MTF transgendered people, but each of them came across to me as very mild-mannered, kind, and decent and dressed pretty conservatively.

    Drag queens in gay bars are a totally different story. Most of them are usually over-the-top obnoxious and very confrontational.


    Oh no. I am definitely very pro-trans (if that's a term) Even in my experience, the trans I have met are very polite and well-mannered but I am simply talking about dressing sense.
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    Apr 28, 2016 7:26 AM GMT
    ricky1987 saidOne thing I absolutely dislike about MTF trans people is that they either dress themselves like a trashy attention seeking slut or cover themselves in drab like a granny.

    It's true, one of the many reason I don't like trannies, they try too hard to stand out. . . as a model reject.
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    Apr 28, 2016 7:54 AM GMT
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    Paul80 saidfree-palestine-and-fuck-israel-5.png


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    Apr 28, 2016 3:52 PM GMT
    So now anyone who doesn't appreciate your endless trolling and sock puppets created just for that is an "idiot hardcore Zionist" icon_rolleyes.gif

    You really don't get it? This is a "Gay Health and Fitness" site. Yet you and your ilk flood threads about the Olympics, Humus, Trans issues and Russia's animosity to gays with your anti-Israel nonsense.

    While you avoid threads in the politics section dedicated to the topic, even when linked and invited to participate in them?

    Oh, that's right. Trolls can never discuss a topic in its thread.
    (Because they've already been shown wrong, they endlessly need to post their BS in new threads.)

    GladiatorSam saidBe aware, there are some idiot hardcore Zionists on this RealJock website. They may report you or have you banned from this website. It happens before with other members.
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    May 02, 2016 2:19 PM GMT
    I took a peek in the bathroom during the intermission, and sure enough found a tranny in front of the urinal.

    (OK, probably more fitting at the Detroit Trans Beauty Contest.)

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    Jun 06, 2016 4:53 AM GMT
    Meet the Arab Woman Who Has Just Become the First Miss Trans Israel
    Talleen Abu Hanna is a Palestinian Christian from the north of Israel

    http://time.com/4352201/talleen-abu-hanna-first-miss-trans-israel

    With her long legs, piercing green eyes, high cheekbones, plump pink lips and lustrous black hair, Talleen Abu Hanna has all the looks of a model. Last month a taxi driver was convinced that she was Gal Gadot, the Israeli actress who plays Wonder Woman in Batman v Superman, and like Abu Hanna, lives in Tel Aviv. Gadot’s career took off after she was crowned Miss Israel in 2004. Walking through the market this morning, men selling produce ask Abu Hanna, “Aren’t you the beauty queen?”

    Actually, Abu Hanna is a beauty queen. Last week the 21-year-old beat out 11 finalists to win Miss Trans Israel, Israel’s first transgender beauty pageant.

    Aside from its holy sites and holy wars, Israel is also known for being one of the world’s most gay-friendly countries. In 2012, Tel Aviv was named the world’s top gay city by GayCities.com, and was recently referred to as “the gayest city on earth” by the Boston Globe.

    The 18th annual Tel Aviv Pride Parade is expected to draw nearly 200,000 participants, of which an estimated 35,000 will fly in from abroad, according to the Tel Aviv municipality. Tel Aviv’s is among the biggest pride parades in the world, and certainly the largest in the Middle East, where being gay isn’t typically celebrated.

    For those who wish to showcase the relative freedom and tolerance enjoyed by Israel’s LGBT community, Talleen Abu Hanna is an ideal model. Born and raised in Nazareth, the childhood home of Jesus Christ, Abu Hanna is a Catholic Israeli Arab. Like many of Israel’s 1.6 million Arab citizens, she calls herself Palestinian as well. But ask her where she’d rather live, and her response is swift.

    “I wouldn’t be alive if I grew up in Palestine,” she says in perfect Hebrew. “Not as a gay man, and definitely not as a transgender woman.”

    She recalls how in Thailand, where she completed her gender transition surgery just one year ago, she met many transgender women from Arab countries. Their occasional trips to Thailand — known in the trans community as the best place for transitional surgery –were the only times when these women felt safe to be themselves, wearing makeup and dressing as women. Back home, they told her, they had to disguise themselves as men. “It’s something you need to keep a secret in Arab countries, and even then it’s forbidden,” she says.

    Homosexuality is considered a crime in many countries. Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen are just a few whose penalties for homosexuality include death and lashings.

    “I got really lucky to live in a country where they bring everything to you on a silver platter” says Abu Hanna, ticking off each of her long fingernails the rights she’s been given as a transgender Israeli woman: people refer to her with female pronouns, her Israeli ID card says that she is female and she can enter retirement at a younger age.

    With that, she stops and reminds herself that “there is still room for improvement, and still some rights we deserve.” After all, it is impossible for same-sex couples to marry in Israel, as marriage is overseen by religious courts. Same-sex couples are also barred from Israel’s surrogacy process, which leaves many couples no choice but to pay exorbitant amounts of money for foreign surrogates.

    There are also many social challenges facing transgender women, says Yuval Egertt, director of the Tel Aviv municipality’s LGBT center. Outside of Tel Aviv, he says, Israeli society “is not so open” to the LGBT community. “It’s only open here in the bubble, in the State of Tel Aviv,” he says.

    Just last year, an ultra-Orthodox Jew attacked participants in Jerusalem’s Gay Pride Parade with a butcher knife, killing a 16-year-old girl. He had just been released from prison, where he was serving time for stabbing marchers at the same parade in 2005.


    While Abu Hanna’s mother, sisters and friends all accept her — she’s been female since she was 5, she jokes, explaining that she was a ballerina and often dressed as a girl — her father hasn’t spoken to her since she underwent sex reassignment surgery. Other women in the competition had it much worse. According to the pageant’s producer, Shenhav Levi, both of the Muslim finalists were beaten and exiled by their families.

    Caroline Khouri, a 24-year-old from the Arab-Israeli village of Tamra, fled her home after her male relatives threatened to kill her for transitioning from man to woman. Her father, uncles and cousins chased her to Tel Aviv, where they tied her up inside an apartment, beat her, cut her hair, and starved her for three days. Israeli police rescued Khouri and imprisoned her attackers. She now has no connection to her family, says Levi.

    Abu Hanna works at a clothing store owned by a transgender designer, but according to Egertt, many trans women face discrimination in housing and employment, leading many in the trans community to resort to prostitution.

    Those who draw attention to Israel’s thriving LGBT community are sometimes accused of “pink-washing,” or using the issue of gay rights to paint a pretty picture of what critics say is an ugly place for Palestinians.

    Talleen Abu Hanna insists she is merely describing the reality she knows, and isn’t trying to sugarcoat anything. “If I was somewhere else in this region I would have been in my grave a long time ago,” she shrugs. “Of course there are problems here, and I’m still Palestinian, but what I’ve gotten here I couldn’t get anywhere else.”

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    RJ really needs to enforce a shorter text limit. Just post a link instead of regurgitating the article.