The UK government is warning LGBTQ travelers to be careful in the US

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    Apr 22, 2016 5:34 PM GMT

    British government should also warn about US "gun happy people"

    As an American citizen, I feel as though I must apologize for parts of my country, places where I would not feel comfortable myself going, working, living or doing business, the craziness you see or hear on the telly, is not reflective of most, liberal Americans. Conservative Americans though, may have a very different view

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    http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11474254/lgbtq-discrimination-uk-north-carolina

    The US is an extremely diverse society and attitudes towards LGBT people differ hugely across the country. LGBT travellers may be affected by legislation passed recently in the states of North Carolina and Mississippi. Before travelling please read our general travel advice for the LGBT community. You can find more detail on LGBT issues in the US on the website of the Human Rights Campaign.


    British officials warn travelers about anti-LGBT laws in the US
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/british-officials-warn-travelers-about-anti-lgbt-laws-the-us


    Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender foreign travel advice
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-foreign-travel-advice
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    Apr 23, 2016 3:14 PM GMT
    That is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).
  • charlitos666

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    Apr 24, 2016 5:29 AM GMT
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.
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    Apr 24, 2016 2:38 PM GMT
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    I never said it was a travel ban. I said the statement was dramatic, like your defensiveness. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 24, 2016 2:46 PM GMT
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    Exactly, when you go abroad you are expected to KNOW the laws of the country and abide by them. The advisory simply notifies travellers that there has been a change of legislation in those areas and they need to be aware of the fact.
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    Apr 24, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
    CODY4U saidIf they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK.


    And what flippant pearls of wisdom would you offer to the LGBTQ residents of North Carolina and Mississippi - "wear good running shoes"?
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    Apr 24, 2016 3:04 PM GMT
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    https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/go/lgbt.html
    Attitudes and tolerance toward lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) persons vary from country to country, just as they vary among U.S. cities and states...


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    25 Unusual Foreign Travel Warnings for Visiting the U.S.

    1. DON’T GET RIPPED OFF AT AN ORLANDO GAS STATION (UK)
    2. TAKE CARE OF THE FLOWERS (CHINA)
    4. DO NOT STALK ANYONE (GERMANY)
    5. WATCH OUT FOR GUNS AT NIGHTTIME (CANADA)
    6. STAY AWAY FROM THE EAST COAST (CHINA)
    7. REALLY, WATCH OUT FOR GUNS (GERMANY)
    9. DO NOT INSPIRE ROAD RAGE (CHINA)
    10. DO NOT TALK TO PROSTITUTES (GERMANY)
    11. DON'T PEE IN THE STREET (SWITZERLAND)
    12. DON’T JOKE ABOUT BOMBS (UK)
    13. TRY TO AVOID BEING NAKED (GERMANY)
    14. FEEL FREE TO SHACK UP (AUSTRIA)
    15. DON’T CUT IN LINE (CHINA)
    19. THE AMERICAN DREAM ISN’T REAL (RUSSIA)
    22. WATCH OUT FOR EXPENSIVE DOCTOR VISITS (AUSTRALIA)
    ...

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    Apr 24, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    19. THE AMERICAN DREAM ISN’T REAL (RUSSIA)


    lol - I wonder who came up with that one.

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    Apr 24, 2016 3:15 PM GMT
    UKgunz said
    The advisory simply notifies travellers that there has been a change of legislation in those areas and they need to be aware of the fact.

    "...a change in legislation..." And I suppose when the Nazi required Jews to wear the Star of David on their clothes that was also simply a change in legislation?

    There are "changes in legislation" that are sinister, those becoming places to be avoided by travelers. Knowing about them is not the point. That they would exist at all is the point. And what about the people who must live there, because they have deep roots there, or maybe lack the means to easily flee those menacing circumstances?

    And that this kind of prejudice, discrimination, hatred and narrow mindedness is how many of the great persecutions of groups of people began. A massive forest fire starts as an insignificant fire. Perhaps a lightning strike, a mere spark from a passing motor vehicle, campfire embers left unextinguished.

    It's when you ignore the small fires that you eventually must face the consuming conflagration. Brits and other non-US citizens cannot fight our fires for us, but they can point them out to us, and avoid harm themselves by wisely avoiding them. Until the US regains its good senses, for which we once used to be proud.
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    Apr 24, 2016 3:25 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    CODY4U saidIf they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK.


    And what flippant pearls of wisdom would you offer to the LGBTQ residents of North Carolina and Mississippi - "wear good running shoes"?


    Why running shoes? Think you need to rethink your punchline. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 24, 2016 10:45 PM GMT
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    I never said it was a travel ban. I said the statement was dramatic, like your defensiveness. icon_biggrin.gif


    "maybe they should just stay in the UK"


    That's the only dramatic thing that's been said on this thread. Im not from the U.K so I have absolutely nothing to be defensive about. I wonder if there is a world where you make more sense and less drama...
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    Apr 25, 2016 12:05 AM GMT
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    I never said it was a travel ban. I said the statement was dramatic, like your defensiveness. icon_biggrin.gif


    "maybe they should just stay in the UK"


    That's the only dramatic thing that's been said on this thread. Im not from the U.K so I have absolutely nothing to be defensive about. I wonder if there is a world where you make more sense and less drama...


    No, that's not all I said. You omitted parts so you could argue what you wish to argue. You were rather combative from the start; are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against strangers in forums?
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    Apr 25, 2016 12:05 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    CODY4U saidIf they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK.


    And what flippant pearls of wisdom would you offer to the LGBTQ residents of North Carolina and Mississippi - "wear good running shoes"?



    What kind of response were you expecting from the sock account of a white right-wing self loathing gay man?
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    Apr 25, 2016 4:47 AM GMT
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    I never said it was a travel ban. I said the statement was dramatic, like your defensiveness. icon_biggrin.gif


    "maybe they should just stay in the UK"


    That's the only dramatic thing that's been said on this thread. Im not from the U.K so I have absolutely nothing to be defensive about. I wonder if there is a world where you make more sense and less drama...


    No, that's not all I said. You omitted parts so you could argue what you wish to argue. You were rather combative from the start; are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against strangers in forums?


    "are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against stranger"

    And the drama is back. You are so good at it, you dont even notice.

    I didn't omit anything relevant to my response. You could try to elaborate and see where that takes you.
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    Apr 25, 2016 12:10 PM GMT
    Those advices do not look at all strange to me. If you have ever lived abroad for an extended time you know that often times what seem like an natural thing to do could come off as very strange/weird/freakish to local population of that place.
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    Apr 25, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
    ricky1987 saidThose advices do not look at all strange to me. If you have ever lived abroad for an extended time you know that often times what seem like an natural thing to do could come off as very strange/weird/freakish to local population of that place.

    What the UK government has issued is simply advice and you need to know these things when travelling abroad. Ignorance of the law is not a defence here, and I doubt it is anywhere else.
    The thing that would bother me most about visiting the US, as noted above, would be those states that allow private citizens to carry guns, especially concealed ones.
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    Apr 25, 2016 3:30 PM GMT
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U said
    charlitos666 said
    CODY4U saidThat is beyond dramatic. If they're that scared, maybe they should just stay in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised at all to see it all linked back to the Human Rights Campaign (the biggest drama queens of all).


    Travel advisories exists for all countries with backwards laws or prevalent violence that might be to the detriment of the traveler. The U.S ain't no exception. Its a warning, not a travel ban, the only thing that's beyond dramatic here is your reaction to a simple travel advisory message.


    I never said it was a travel ban. I said the statement was dramatic, like your defensiveness. icon_biggrin.gif


    "maybe they should just stay in the UK"


    That's the only dramatic thing that's been said on this thread. Im not from the U.K so I have absolutely nothing to be defensive about. I wonder if there is a world where you make more sense and less drama...


    No, that's not all I said. You omitted parts so you could argue what you wish to argue. You were rather combative from the start; are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against strangers in forums?


    "are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against stranger"

    And the drama is back. You are so good at it, you dont even notice.

    I didn't omit anything relevant to my response. You could try to elaborate and see where that takes you.


    You left out half of that sentence for a reason, and it's quite silly of you to deny it when my original comment is on the same page. Maybe you're not sure what it means to omit something? Seems like you're really eager to try me for some unknown reason, so back to my question (which you also misquoted): Are you one of those losers that gets mad and holds grudges against strangers in forums?
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    Apr 25, 2016 4:35 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    theantijock said
    19. THE AMERICAN DREAM ISN’T REAL (RUSSIA)


    lol - I wonder who came up with that one.

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    I'm more concerned with Swiss piss #11

    11. DON'T PEE IN THE STREET (SWITZERLAND)

    They had to be warned to not piss in public? Is that like how our mothers told us to look both ways before crossing the street?

    Well, at least that explains this google image search result for the Swiss Alps...
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    Apr 26, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
    A person has a right to know how they're expected to behave in strange places. Like the whole saying goes: "When in Rome...." But if you don't know the customs of "Rome", you could wind up in very big trouble.
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    Apr 26, 2016 1:12 AM GMT
    Radd saidA person has a right to know how they're expected to behave in strange places. Like the whole saying goes: "When in Rome...." But if you don't know the customs of "Rome", you could wind up in very big trouble.




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    Apr 26, 2016 12:08 PM GMT
    Smart move.
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    Apr 27, 2016 11:32 AM GMT
    I think it's to remind them of the wide regional differences in the USA, which the UK is too small for. There are differences between the UK and US.

    Plus you do have a massive gun problem, like most of the americas.

    It's more about being aware of your surroundings than actually preventing people from going.