Obama threatens the UK

  • interestingch...

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    Apr 24, 2016 4:33 PM GMT
    I don't know who the F***ing hell Obama thinks he is, threatening the British people for wanting to get out of Europe, we have a democracy and are proud of it, he has no right telling us what to do and blackmailing us by saying if we vote out then we will come last in consideration for trade deals throughout the world, F*** you Obama, he has upset the entire population of the UK in one visit, if he becomes head of the UN, we are in big trouble.
    Does anyone reading this think it is acceptable to make those comments, as a leader of a country? The UK don't tell the US what to do, ever,
    The majority of British people have been deeply insulted by him
  • Fireworkz

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    Apr 24, 2016 4:45 PM GMT
    I wasn't insulted. And David Cameron was right there. He probably was too scared to say what needed to be said so had Obama say it instead.

    Whatever he said at least he's not leading us into a pointless war as a certain former US President did.
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    Apr 24, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
    I was about to say that, Fireworkz.

    "The British people have been deeply insulted by him"

    I have not been insulted. Please stop making generalisations. At least just say you have been insulted. I think the issue of whether Britain leaves or remain in the UK is very important issue globally.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36083736

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    http://www.digitaljournal.com/science/will-leaving-the-eu-affect-british-science/article/463685

    84 percent of scientists wanted to remain.
    16 percent wanted to leave.

    http://sciencecouncil.org/uk-science-needs-the-eu-and-the-wider-world/

    I personally believe that if we leave the EU, science for Britain will decline in the short term. In the long term I also predict that science for Britain will falter.
  • interestingch...

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    Apr 24, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
    Saudi Arabia threatens to redact $750 billion from the US economy if the 9/11 families are allowed to take the foreign governments to court over the loss of their loved ones and now Obama has said this, most people I know are upset over his comments, WTF is going on, are they deliberately trying to screw up all the western nations economies, I think maybe yes is the answer to that one. He won the nobel peace prize as soon as he came into office which is a total joke, I thought that at the time and still do,
    I think he already is leading us into war, the war with ISIS which has been funded by the US government, Europe is going to suffer badly with all this, we haven't seen anything yet.
  • Fireworkz

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    Apr 24, 2016 5:00 PM GMT

    Where is your proof that the war with ISIS is funded by the US government?
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    Apr 24, 2016 5:14 PM GMT
    interestingchap saidI don't know who the F***ing hell Obama thinks he is, threatening the British people for wanting to get out of Europe, we have a democracy and are proud of it, he has no right telling us what to do and blackmailing us by saying if we vote out then we will come last in consideration for trade deals throughout the world, F*** you Obama, he has upset the entire population on the UK in one visit, if he becomes head of the UN, we are in big trouble.
    Does anyone reading this think it is acceptable to make those comments, as a leader of a country? The UK don't tell the US what to do, ever,
    The British people have been deeply insulted by him


    Who appointed you spokesman for Britain? (and a melodramatic one at that.) Are you even British?

    Like the other British guys above, I'm not "deeply insulted" by Obama's speech. In fact, I happen to think the president of a country that spent a lot of blood and treasure helping to sort out two major European wars (plus a cold war) in the last 100 years has every right to air his opinion on the future stability of Europe.
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  • interestingch...

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    Apr 24, 2016 5:30 PM GMT
    Fireworkz said
    Where is your proof that the war with ISIS is funded by the US government?


    If you look at all their machinery, tanks, pickups, armoured vehicles etc etc, they are all the ones that the US were using in Iraq and which the US government have said they left there, with all the keys in them no doubt, for all the terrorists to use because they were too expensive to ship back to the US, the government admitted it because the international press picked it up and exposed it all, convenient hey, all the weapons they are using are apparently also US supplied too, its all a total joke except it is far from funny.
    I have to be honest, if my family were killed by a foreign government, I would probably want revenge for their deaths too. ISIS, al qaeda, the taliban or whatever name they decide to call them next are fundamentally the same people who started off as mercenaries and have grown to include many middle eastern men who want revenge,
    Research it all out and you will see, you tube news clips, and posts by journalists etc,
    If you want to know whats really going on around the world then watch Alex Jones, info wars on you tube, its a radio podcast coming from Texas, he has amazing sources that supply info, all legitimate people, he is a little aggressive and I don't agree with everything he says but so far he has been correct about many many international affairs that doesn't hit the mainstream news because its all controlled by our governments, its a bit like wiki leaks by radio, he has exposed the New World Order plot, 9/11 and much else. There is no BS with it and I listen most evenings as well as watch our news so as to get a balanced view point.
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    Apr 24, 2016 6:26 PM GMT
    interestingchap is full of "interesting" ideas.   icon_rolleyes.gif
  • venue35

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    Apr 24, 2016 9:13 PM GMT
    If america sold the weapons that the ISIS is using then they have helped fund them. I don't know if that's true however. I do know that the US government hasn't shown much interest in the war against isis.
    Russia and Turkey are much more involved.
    Killing has always been good business and business is looking good apparentlyicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 24, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
    interestingchap saidSaudi Arabia threatens to redact $750 billion from the US economy if the 9/11 families are allowed to take the foreign governments to court over the loss of their loved ones and now Obama has said this...

    Nice story you're spinning there. The Saudis made their own direct threat of taking targeted action against the US. President Obama warned the UK of the consequences of its own actions if there's a Brexit. Which could have negative consequences for the US as well.

    I think he was well within our rights to make our concerns known. And to express anxiety about the well being of our closest ally.

    Now should Obama ever threaten to withdraw investments and other support from the UK, in order to force it to comply with US wishes, as the Saudis are trying with the US, then do get back to us.
  • Lincsbear

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    Apr 24, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
    Not insulted here.
    I think he was just telling us some of the possible consequences of a UK exit.
    As noted above, if the UK left the EU, that might have negative consequences for the US. I also note how much the US has invested in European stability over the years.
    If anything, Boris Johnson`s comments about Obama`s supposed motivations was the unfortunate, to say the least, statement.
  • badbug

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    Apr 25, 2016 12:34 AM GMT
    I also note how much the US has invested in European stability over the years


    Economic? Cause aggrevating Russia and moving up the borders of Nato right to Russia's front gate was most certainly not an operation in stability. It is easily one of the most short sighted ridiculously needlessly dangerous moves continued by party after party.

  • Lincsbear

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    Apr 25, 2016 2:48 PM GMT
    badbug saidI also note how much the US has invested in European stability over the years


    Economic? Cause aggrevating Russia and moving up the borders of Nato right to Russia's front gate was most certainly not an operation in stability. It is easily one of the most short sighted ridiculously needlessly dangerous moves continued by party after party.


    US policies are always a mixed bag, and largely for themsleves(NATO, for example). The conflict with Russia may not be as fierce as it was in the Cold War, but it`s still there. Russia plays it, too, with moves in Crimea, flying near UK airspace, etc.
    But the US (and Canada) made considerable sacrifices here in the Second World War. Without them, the UK would most likely have been a colony of the Third Reich.
    The Marshall Plan was a major aid, too.
  • interestingch...

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    Apr 25, 2016 7:36 PM GMT
    Its the New World Order causing all this, they want a one world government, its an organisation rather than a particular country although Saudi Arabia had a very large hand in 9/11, when are these bastards going to be held accountable for their atrocities.
  • Destinharbor

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    Apr 25, 2016 8:12 PM GMT
    Obama didn't threaten the UK. What a stupid spin (which I'm sure you picked up from some reactionary news source). What he said was that bigger trading blocks gain advantage in trade negotiations which Obama believes in. For all of you who bitch about trade deals, you must have a trade agreement to trade between two countries. What that deal says determines who gains an advantage. The greater your market attracts the other country, the better position you are in to negotiate a good deal. He simply pointed out that Europe is one trading block that ALL countries want access to, whereas Britain is attractive but not in a position to negotiate as favorable a deal.

    Grow up and stop reading moronic propaganda.
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    Apr 25, 2016 9:53 PM GMT
    Let the foolish UK go down with the rest of Europe. It's over anyway! bye bye
  • badbug

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    Apr 26, 2016 4:42 AM GMT
    But the US (and Canada) made considerable sacrifices here in the Second World War


    Better late than never in the case of the US. lol



    Russia plays it too because they had to. There was no magnanimous victor that was promised after the soviet union fell. We "weren't" going to expand Nato membership, then we did. Well we "weren't" going to expand it to satellite states...then we did. And then it was right up to the door step. You can only piss on people's legs for so long.


    It doesn't matter if you're the biggest kid on the block, if you start shit and escalate shit there is no telling where it will lead. Instead of having Russia as a partner, we made Russia a borderline enemy, there is no telling how that can come back to bite the west in the ass. We're still living with the aftermath of world war 1. Who knows how an atagonistic Russia will play in events 50 years from now. Who knows how they will play in events 5 years from now.

    Did the same bullshit to the B'aath party and now half of them work for ISIS. They could have kept their cushy jobs keeping Alqaida in check and there would of never been a fucking ISIS but instead we booted them out cause we could and they were "the bad guys" and "what are they gonna do about it, we won!" well what did we win? Now they make bombs and plan raids and sell oil for ISIS.

    You don't get a stronger more stable world by creating more enemies. US policy has been nothing but an object lesson in how to create enemies out of nothing the past 25 years. It's really striking how being the lone superpower was so poorly mishandled at virtually every turn.
  • interestingch...

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    Apr 26, 2016 5:00 AM GMT
    I just think its very sad at the state of things and the way they are going, its all been engineered this way and the UN/Nato want a third world war to lower the population of the world, engineer a financial collapse and bring in a world government of unelected dictators who have diplomatic immunity and the rest of us are slaves, I can't believe most people are asleep to what is going on, its very sad but some people are beginning to wake up to how things are being set up for all this to happen.
    The pope has already called for world government, so if you don't think this could happen then research it all, its been in the making for decades and decades.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 26, 2016 3:44 PM GMT
    2Bnaked saidLet the foolish UK go down with the rest of Europe. It's over anyway! bye bye
    The US is not too far behind unfortunately.
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    Apr 26, 2016 5:24 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    2Bnaked saidLet the foolish UK go down with the rest of Europe. It's over anyway! bye bye
    The US is not too far behind unfortunately.


    Dumb and dumber talking politics. (2B fair, RBR isn't quite as bovine as 2Bnaked.)
  • mindblank

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    Apr 27, 2016 11:55 PM GMT
    interestingchap saidI don't know who the F***ing hell Obama thinks he is.....


    Suck it up, like we Scots had to in 2014 when all and sundry from everywhere but Scotland were telling us how to vote on the future of our country, as if they know what's best for us.

    LOL.