white Liberal gays and Islam

  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
    Stupid people always mean well, but they're still stupid.

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  • secondstartot...

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    Apr 29, 2016 4:40 PM GMT
    yeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer
  • FirestormDavi...

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    Apr 29, 2016 4:46 PM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer


    Thanks dude made the point needed.

    Islam means peace. Since when do the most outlandish members of a group speak for the whole group? Oh wait. We live in a media bent on divide and conquer. All groups are cast in shadow by crazy idiots blocking the sunlight, because a society in chaos is the only way such a profoundly corrupt system as our world power structure could...stay in power.

    Strong societies don't need weak systems, therefor at every turn...unless you're a straight white man...they have examples of "you" to make others resent you.
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 5:34 PM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer


    You are being willfully ignorant.

    First off, you had to go back about 100 years to find an equivalent incident of "Christian" barbarity - and even then, you found a pic of a dramatization of the same (a still from Birth of A Nation). There are actual pictures of real lynchings available, but you are apparently too ignorant and/or lazy to know this or make an extra effort.

    Second, consider Saudi Arabia (arguably the worst fucking nation on the planet) which routinely executes people for things we would consider petty crimes or at best garden variety felonies. Yet SA enjoys a certain prestige among the ass-kissing world community (United Nations esp.).

    Saudi Arabia the spiritual home of Islam, and a place we should turn to glass TODAY.

    In at least a dozen other Muslim nations, you'd be lynched for being who you are. FUCK ISLAM.

  • FirestormDavi...

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    Apr 29, 2016 5:49 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer


    You are being willfully ignorant.

    First off, you had to go back about 100 years to find an equivalent incident of "Christian" barbarity - and even then, you found a pic of a dramatization of the same (a still from Birth of A Nation). There are actual pictures of real lynchings available, but you are apparently too ignorant and/or lazy to know this or make an extra effort.

    Second, consider Saudi Arabia (arguably the worst fucking nation on the planet) which routinely executes people for things we would consider petty crimes or at best garden variety felonies. Yet SA enjoys a certain prestige among the ass-kissing world community (United Nations esp.).

    Saudi Arabia the spiritual home of Islam, and a place we should turn to glass TODAY.

    In at least a dozen other Muslim nations, you'd be lynched for being who you are. FUCK ISLAM.



    You do not meet hate with more hate, you have there the ingredient for a brawl.

    You misunderstand Islam, use its worse example.

    Shame on you.

    How would you like to be judged by the worst example of a gay man?

    Are you an escort?

    Well most Muslims are beautiful bright loving people. All world religions carry with them the baggage of lies invented by old world leaders corrupt and bent on wielding their power over the masses.

    Do not get it twisted.

    Islam means peace.

    Let this speak to the importance of understanding. All names for God speak to the same being.

    Please pray for the hurt you have brought with your words.

    Diplomacy is about reconciliation.

    HOW ON EARTH do you expect to reconcile with people when you throw the baby out with the bathwater and condemn the many good people whose voices would be the most powerful in potentially eradicating the more barbaric elements of Islam.

    And don't pretend we need to travel far back to find barbarism in Christianity. See the God Hates Fags people, the countless southern churches that condone beating your spouse. A lot of Christians do unforgivable things because they are under the impression they are already forgiven, like a credit card with no pay back.

    Please be a more graceful force of healing yo.

    We really cannot afford for you to ad any more fuel to the fire.

    Unless of course, it is the fire of love.
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 6:13 PM GMT
    FirestormDavid said
    JackNNJ said
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer


    You are being willfully ignorant.

    First off, you had to go back about 100 years to find an equivalent incident of "Christian" barbarity - and even then, you found a pic of a dramatization of the same (a still from Birth of A Nation). There are actual pictures of real lynchings available, but you are apparently too ignorant and/or lazy to know this or make an extra effort.

    Second, consider Saudi Arabia (arguably the worst fucking nation on the planet) which routinely executes people for things we would consider petty crimes or at best garden variety felonies. Yet SA enjoys a certain prestige among the ass-kissing world community (United Nations esp.).

    Saudi Arabia the spiritual home of Islam, and a place we should turn to glass TODAY.

    In at least a dozen other Muslim nations, you'd be lynched for being who you are. FUCK ISLAM.



    You do not meet hate with more hate, you have there the ingredient for a brawl.

    You misunderstand Islam, use its worse example.

    Shame on you.

    How would you like to be judged by the worst example of a gay man?

    Are you an escort?

    Well most Muslims are beautiful bright loving people. All world religions carry with them the baggage of lies invented by old world leaders corrupt and bent on wielding their power over the masses.

    Do not get it twisted.

    Islam means peace.

    Let this speak to the importance of understanding. All names for God speak to the same being.

    Please pray for the hurt you have brought with your words.

    Diplomacy is about reconciliation.

    HOW ON EARTH do you expect to reconcile with people when you throw the baby out with the bathwater and condemn the many good people whose voices would be the most powerful in potentially eradicating the more barbaric elements of Islam.

    And don't pretend we need to travel far back to find barbarism in Christianity. See the God Hates Fags people, the countless southern churches that condone beating your spouse. A lot of Christians do unforgivable things because they are under the impression they are already forgiven, like a credit card with no pay back.

    Please be a more graceful force of healing yo.

    We really cannot afford for you to ad any more fuel to the fire.

    Unless of course, it is the fire of love.


    The "worst example" of Islam, Saudi Arabia, has been mainstreamed into international recognition and given commensurate prestige. It's ISIS with a seat at the UN.

    I wouldn't like to be judged by the worst example of a gay guy (who is statistically and typically a hateful, self-righteous, moralizing, self-centered white Liberal douchebag, who probably lives in Lower Manhattan or San Francisco and wears a "Sarah Palin Is A Cunt" T-shirt). This is why I stand with muh wigga Milo, he of fabulous Dangerous Faggot renown. We talk facts, numbers, data, studies, logic, reason, and so forth - but we don't give a fuck about your feelings.

    Nothing I have said prevents these supposed loving Muslims from speaking out against the crazies. This is due to their fear, or more likely due to the tacit approval they give to the worst practices of Islam.

    You're as likely to see "moderate Muslims" taking action (not just "speaking out" but taking tangible, effective, and forceful ACTION) against the crazy fucks as you are to see two unicorns humping under a rainbow on the 31st of April.

    There is no relativism to be taken seriously or analog with Christianity here - in the West, when a "Christian" commits a barbaric act, he is more often than not found guilty by an all-Christian jury.

    The "God Hates Fags" idiots are the Westboro Church, which is a superultramega church of about THIRTY-FIVE fucking members. Yes, that's 35. "Moderate Muslims" the world over commonly support the death penalty for gays, and that bitch cunt Rachel Maddow doesn't mention it or even flinch. Yet night after night she'll talk about WBC as if it's the biggest threat mankind has ever faced.

    What we can't afford is white Liberals, gay, straight, or otherwise, denigrating their own Western civilization at every turn, yet giving uncivilized cultures a complete pass.

    Go sing your John Lennon songs at someone else, and WISE THE FUCK UP.
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    Apr 29, 2016 6:28 PM GMT
    I. The Meaning of Islam

    Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

    That's might be what it literally means but it isn't peaceful in reality, "good" Muslims notwithstanding.

    Compare and contrast the words and actions of Jesus to those of the false prophet Mohammed. Mohammed and his false religion were rotten from the very beginning.

    There is no historical record that anyone was killed by Jesus directly or by his directives. You can't say that about Mohammed.

    We have no record Jesus ever had sex with a nine year old girl. You can't say that about Mohammed.
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 6:32 PM GMT
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  • secondstartot...

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    Apr 29, 2016 6:36 PM GMT
    well I don't think I am either Liberal or conservative ... pretty much depends on the topic
    as I said I live in Israel in the south in the Negev in a city called Beersheva I have muslim neighbors and co workers

    I know full well the horrors committed in certain arab countries in the NAME of Islam .. I however dont see the problem in black and white if it were it could have been solved years ago.. its not its complicated and its scary

    I do believe however that it is driven by maniacal greed and power by a minority that happens to be a vast number of people with hell scary weapons and a lot of money and infrastructure and people are shit scared

    hating all muslims and being derogatory is not going to help and genocide because their ideal are not the same as ours is not the answer - then how are we with our so called democracy better ?

    the vast majority of all people are simply trying to live their lives watch a bit of TV and do a little shopping ...

    its not a complete answer or solution but reaching out and educating each other I think will be a much better thing as long as we are all hating each other we dont see that there is a small minority of people that benifit financially from this constant war

    the only things that benifit from a war are the crows and these days the crows have names .. like CNN and SKY news and some very wealthy conglomerates

    and before you accuse me of being ignorant I spent all of last summer in my local bomb shelter with my dog , my Neighbor Omar and his wife and daughters from downstairs and the Philippino lady and her Israeli Husband from across the hall


  • secondstartot...

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    Apr 29, 2016 6:57 PM GMT
    sorry my mistake... I can't believe it was two summers ago already !
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 7:06 PM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidwell I don't think I am either Liberal or conservative ... pretty much depends on the topic
    as I said I live in Israel in the south in the Negev in a city called Beersheva I have muslim neighbors and co workers

    I know full well the horrors committed in certain arab countries in the NAME of Islam .. I however dont see the problem in black and white if it were it could have been solved years ago.. its not its complicated and its scary

    I do believe however that it is driven by maniacal greed and power by a minority that happens to be a vast number of people with hell scary weapons and a lot of money and infrastructure and people are shit scared

    hating all muslims and being derogatory is not going to help and genocide because their ideal are not the same as ours is not the answer - then how are we with our so called democracy better ?

    the vast majority of all people are simply trying to live their lives watch a bit of TV and do a little shopping ...

    its not a complete answer or solution but reaching out and educating each other I think will be a much better thing as long as we are all hating each other we dont see that there is a small minority of people that benifit financially from this constant war

    the only things that benifit from a war are the crows and these days the crows have names .. like CNN and SKY news and some very wealthy conglomerates

    and before you accuse me of being ignorant I spent all of last summer in my local bomb shelter with my dog , my Neighbor Omar and his wife and daughters from downstairs and the Philippino lady and her Israeli Husband from across the hall




    Your experiences are anecdotal, as are mine. A friend of mine died on UF 175 on Sept 11, 2001. Flight attendant, and it's very likely he had his throat slashed before impact. Initials RF.

    "Reaching out and educating each other" is so much white Liberal moral relativist pablum. I don't need any fucking "educating." I am from a civilized society. Islamics need the education on what it means to be human fucking beings.

    I don't "hate all Muslims." I hate Islam. It is not "racist" to hate a set of ideas. Islam is a gutter ideology, an intellectually retarded system. Islam failed to embrace or experience the Enlightenment. That's not my fucking fault.


  • FirestormDavi...

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    Apr 29, 2016 7:20 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    FirestormDavid said
    JackNNJ said
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me

    this

    KKK-2a.jpg

    and saying fuck Christianity
    people confuse religion with politics .. at their hearts I think most religions are beautiful and supply people with comfort they dearly need

    man's desire for power and greed leads to the corruption of these faiths

    hate is not the answer


    You are being willfully ignorant.

    First off, you had to go back about 100 years to find an equivalent incident of "Christian" barbarity - and even then, you found a pic of a dramatization of the same (a still from Birth of A Nation). There are actual pictures of real lynchings available, but you are apparently too ignorant and/or lazy to know this or make an extra effort.

    Second, consider Saudi Arabia (arguably the worst fucking nation on the planet) which routinely executes people for things we would consider petty crimes or at best garden variety felonies. Yet SA enjoys a certain prestige among the ass-kissing world community (United Nations esp.).

    Saudi Arabia the spiritual home of Islam, and a place we should turn to glass TODAY.

    In at least a dozen other Muslim nations, you'd be lynched for being who you are. FUCK ISLAM.



    You do not meet hate with more hate, you have there the ingredient for a brawl.

    You misunderstand Islam, use its worse example.

    Shame on you.

    How would you like to be judged by the worst example of a gay man?

    Are you an escort?

    Well most Muslims are beautiful bright loving people. All world religions carry with them the baggage of lies invented by old world leaders corrupt and bent on wielding their power over the masses.

    Do not get it twisted.

    Islam means peace.

    Let this speak to the importance of understanding. All names for God speak to the same being.

    Please pray for the hurt you have brought with your words.

    Diplomacy is about reconciliation.

    HOW ON EARTH do you expect to reconcile with people when you throw the baby out with the bathwater and condemn the many good people whose voices would be the most powerful in potentially eradicating the more barbaric elements of Islam.

    And don't pretend we need to travel far back to find barbarism in Christianity. See the God Hates Fags people, the countless southern churches that condone beating your spouse. A lot of Christians do unforgivable things because they are under the impression they are already forgiven, like a credit card with no pay back.

    Please be a more graceful force of healing yo.

    We really cannot afford for you to ad any more fuel to the fire.

    Unless of course, it is the fire of love.


    The "worst example" of Islam, Saudi Arabia, has been mainstreamed into international recognition and given commensurate prestige. It's ISIS with a seat at the UN.

    I wouldn't like to be judged by the worst example of a gay guy (who is statistically and typically a hateful, self-righteous, moralizing, self-centered white Liberal douchebag, who probably lives in Lower Manhattan or San Francisco and wears a "Sarah Palin Is A Cunt" T-shirt). This is why I stand with muh wigga Milo, he of fabulous Dangerous Faggot renown. We talk facts, numbers, data, studies, logic, reason, and so forth - but we don't give a fuck about your feelings.

    Nothing I have said prevents these supposed loving Muslims from speaking out against the crazies. This is due to their fear, or more likely due to the tacit approval they give to the worst practices of Islam.

    You're as likely to see "moderate Muslims" taking action (not just "speaking out" but taking tangible, effective, and forceful ACTION) against the crazy fucks as you are to see two unicorns humping under a rainbow on the 31st of April.

    There is no relativism to be taken seriously or analog with Christianity here - in the West, when a "Christian" commits a barbaric act, he is more often than not found guilty by an all-Christian jury.

    The "God Hates Fags" idiots are the Westboro Church, which is a superultramega church of about THIRTY-FIVE fucking members. Yes, that's 35. "Moderate Muslims" the world over commonly support the death penalty for gays, and that bitch cunt Rachel Maddow doesn't mention it or even flinch. Yet night after night she'll talk about WBC as if it's the biggest threat mankind has ever faced.

    What we can't afford is white Liberals, gay, straight, or otherwise, denigrating their own Western civilization at every turn, yet giving uncivilized cultures a complete pass.

    Go sing your John Lennon songs at someone else, and WISE THE FUCK UP.


    haha yes we all should wise the fuck up.

    I agree we cannot give it a free pass. Schnike. So many moderate muslims support the death penalty eh? God is love it's so simple. Corrupt tradition will need a divine intervention of sorts.

    I understand that it is unlikely for a moderate to speak as the current situation unfolds today but we are on the cusp of vitual reality coming of age, cowboy. And let me tell you. It will make the world more intimate. Don't disrespect John Lennon or so called "Liberals". We all can wise the fuck up haha. The whole party system is an invention--we are too similar to discern polarity especially and even with our "differences".

    Yes.

    Religion, the coexistence of and genesis of is so complicated.

    There has to be one truth and maybe that truth can have many passages lead to it.

    Real Mighty East Indian saying goes something like "All paths lead to the same road"

    Love and health. Most dignified grace, most might and development. Seizing the potential. Lighting a fire under all asses.

    Rise.

    Virtual Reality Divine Intervention.
    Hollywood and the Video Game industries will take pretty big hits when this shit takes off. Because we go there to dream together.

    Waking Dreams like you've never seen.

    The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
    I agree we all have stacks to learn on all these complicated subjects knowing full well the game of telephone is at play over time what truth is what, what events really happened, what details or whole elements are fake...The Creator is a complex being. Life is an enigma.

    You disrespect John Lennon, may I ask why?

    Why do you generalize about people? Especially painting them as hateful and having extremely specific ideas about them? Hath not thee witnesses a great coral reaf of diversity? Dare not you dismiis these words as John Lennon BS. Peace is such BS eh? I've heard it has become shameful to want peace in the Middle East in some parts, from a guy who spoke to my group when I was in Israel last summer. His bro was killed by an Israeli border patrol so he threw a rock at one and went to jail. He said being a political prisoner is the best education for someone to learn about the deep core of the issue. He was a changed man.

    He spoke of when Jewish mothers called him crying after the death of his loved one and for the first time he thought of Jews as real loving people just as he and his own family are.

    I ask you as a friend, if you would do me the honor, to be more diplomatic in you quest to help us think about very real important threats.

    This dude speaking to us went on to say that peace is a payment, but no matter how steep it is always cheeper than the price of war.

    Corruption of power causes weakness. The entire world echoes the money structure set forth by America and t
  • FirestormDavi...

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    Apr 29, 2016 7:21 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    FirestormDavid said
    JackNNJ said
    secondstartotheright saidyeah .... so Im white jewish , I live in Israel for 6 years and.... this is not Islam ... its like showing me


    Go sing your John Lennon songs at someone else, and WISE THE FUCK UP.


    haha yes we all should wise the fuck up.

    I agree we cannot give it a free pass. Schnike. So many moderate muslims support the death penalty eh? God is love it's so simple. Corrupt tradition will need a divine intervention of sorts.

    I understand that it is unlikely for a moderate to speak as the current situation unfolds today but we are on the cusp of virtual reality coming of age, cowboy. And shit. It will make the world more intimate. Don't disrespect John Lennon or so called "Liberals". We all can wise the fuck up haha. The whole party system is an invention--we are too similar to discern polarity especially and even with our "differences".

    Yes.

    Religion, the coexistence of and genesis of is so complicated.

    There has to be one truth and maybe that truth can have many passages lead to it.

    Real Mighty East Indian saying goes something like "All paths lead to the same road"

    Love and health. Most dignified grace, most might and development. Seizing the potential. Lighting a fire under all asses.

    Rise.

    Virtual Reality Divine Intervention.
    Hollywood and the Video Game industries will take pretty big hits when this shit takes off. Because we go there to dream together.

    Waking Dreams like you've never seen.

    The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
    I agree we all have stacks to learn on all these complicated subjects knowing full well the game of telephone is at play over time what truth is what, what events really happened, what details or whole elements are fake...The Creator is a complex being. Life is an enigma.

    You disrespect John Lennon, may I ask why?

    Why do you generalize about people? Especially painting them as hateful and having extremely specific ideas about them? Hath not thee witnesses a great coral reaf of diversity? Dare not you dismiis these words as John Lennon BS. Peace is such BS eh? I've heard it has become shameful to want peace in the Middle East in some parts, from a guy who spoke to my group when I was in Israel last summer. His bro was killed by an Israeli border patrol so he threw a rock at one and went to jail. He said being a political prisoner is the best education for someone to learn about the deep core of the issue. He was a changed man.

    He spoke of when Jewish mothers called him crying after the death of his loved one and for the first time he thought of Jews as real loving people just as he and his own family are.

    I ask you as a friend, if you would do me the honor, to be more diplomatic in you quest to help us think about very real important threats.

    This dude speaking to us went on to say that peace is a payment, but no matter how steep it is always cheeper than the price of war.

    Corruption of power causes weakness. The entire world echoes the money structure set forth by America and the central bank that is the Fed Res set up the year after the Titanic sunk. (By JPMorgan, owner of the ship, cancleled his reservation morning of as wel as some of his closest chronies. They jst haad to get Astor, Guggenheim and the third richest bloke in the world dead so they'd be out of the way blocking them from creating the federal reserve. An untraceable cartel. Never audited.

    You say that "liberals" (Again, there is only one world party. It's he world Party haha) critique our government unfairly at every turn but our government is also corrupt and homophobic. The 6 coorporations that have created the oligarchy we are now in...this is no longer a democracy my friend...well they control the media and the portrayals of gay guys. Brokebak Mountain made 100,000,000+++ why arent more top line dudes dropping into theaters getting hot?

    Divide and conquer. It's why the media feeds every flame, as you do with your blanket hatred of Islam. We can't do this dude.. I can't be mad at you, I'm sorry for saying shame on you because we need to talk and understand not say shit like that. It's very important for you and us to be so outraged about something going on.

    Martin Luther King (Another dude big on peace, do you tell people to take their MLK words somewhere else? [Shoulder nudging jesterly] ) said we don't change unless we get angry.

    Light fires under asses, don't light asses on fire.

    We all can wise up. there is so much infinance to know.

    I blocked out, numbed the horror of the reality of the pic on top but you words bring the reality home to me.

    I greatly appreciate your passion in alarming the horrible truths of brutality facing the dude team.

    We need to do something about this and yeah I'm very with you. News networks are so corrupt it's beyond nuts.

    I can take and dick (only if there's love) and I can take a joke haha. as you say. I think it's funny to part ways sometimes with people by riffing on news BS by sayin

    If you find the orangutang that stole my teleprompter, you tell him that I will find him!
  • JackNNJ

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    Apr 29, 2016 7:31 PM GMT
    haha yes we all should wise the fuck up.

    I agree we cannot give it a free pass. Schnike. So many moderate muslims support the death penalty eh? God is love it's so simple. Corrupt tradition will need a divine intervention of sorts.

    I understand that it is unlikely for a moderate to speak as the current situation unfolds today but we are on the cusp of vitual reality coming of age, cowboy. And let me tell you. It will make the world more intimate. Don't disrespect John Lennon or so called "Liberals". We all can wise the fuck up haha. The whole party system is an invention--we are too similar to discern polarity especially and even with our "differences".

    Yes.

    Religion, the coexistence of and genesis of is so complicated.

    There has to be one truth and maybe that truth can have many passages lead to it.

    Real Mighty East Indian saying goes something like "All paths lead to the same road"

    Love and health. Most dignified grace, most might and development. Seizing the potential. Lighting a fire under all asses.

    Rise.

    Virtual Reality Divine Intervention.
    Hollywood and the Video Game industries will take pretty big hits when this shit takes off. Because we go there to dream together.

    Waking Dreams like you've never seen.

    The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
    I agree we all have stacks to learn on all these complicated subjects knowing full well the game of telephone is at play over time what truth is what, what events really happened, what details or whole elements are fake...The Creator is a complex being. Life is an enigma.

    You disrespect John Lennon, may I ask why?

    Why do you generalize about people? Especially painting them as hateful and having extremely specific ideas about them? Hath not thee witnesses a great coral reaf of diversity? Dare not you dismiis these words as John Lennon BS. Peace is such BS eh? I've heard it has become shameful to want peace in the Middle East in some parts, from a guy who spoke to my group when I was in Israel last summer. His bro was killed by an Israeli border patrol so he threw a rock at one and went to jail. He said being a political prisoner is the best education for someone to learn about the deep core of the issue. He was a changed man.

    He spoke of when Jewish mothers called him crying after the death of his loved one and for the first time he thought of Jews as real loving people just as he and his own family are.

    I ask you as a friend, if you would do me the honor, to be more diplomatic in you quest to help us think about very real important threats.

    This dude speaking to us went on to say that peace is a payment, but no matter how steep it is always cheeper than the price of war.

    Corruption of power causes weakness. The entire world echoes the money structure set forth by America and t[/quote]


    Diplomatic? No can do. Not on this white Liberal forum. It's full of relativists and anti-Westerners, whom I have no tolerance for.

    I deal with facts, and don't give a fuck about feelings. It has nothing to do with party affiliation - and no, we are not more similar than dissimilar. I am pro-Western, pro-capitalist, pro- free market. These sentiments are antithetical to today's bizarre, damaged, fragile white Liberal mind.

    You don't recall the dingbats in Brussels singing "Imagine" at the terrorists after that savage attack? That was weak, pathetic, and sickening to see and hear.

  • FirestormDavi...

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    Apr 29, 2016 7:39 PM GMT
    well if yo think that liking a piece of land more than me, liking a form of bartering more than me, is reason enough to consider me as good as alien beings to each other, I'm going to challenge you to allow life to be bigger than your homeland and Your Way. That's selfish.

    Why do you keep saying you don't care about my/our/any feelings? haha are ah...are you trying to proove how hard you are? Having a heart is the real power.

    You don't want to be a diplomat because of all these generalizations your making. Let the world be fresh and open and new. There is hope and a bountiful mess of possible futures, directions for humanity.

    If you think subtle ideas about life are enough to alienate yourself permanently, it makes sense why a song about oneness would make you sick.

    But I don't understand why it make you sick. Could you help me understand?

    I'm David, I'm pale as al gothic times but I'm black as all jettt in my core. Don't let the superficial generalizations blind you from your own team, mate.
  • JackNNJ

    Posts: 1051

    Apr 29, 2016 7:51 PM GMT
    FirestormDavid saidwell if yo think that liking a piece of land more than me, liking a form of bartering more than me, is reason enough to consider me as good as alien beings to each other, I'm going to challenge you to allow life to be bigger than your homeland and Your Way. That's selfish.

    Why do you keep saying you don't care about my/our/any feelings? haha are ah...are you trying to proove how hard you are? Having a heart is the real power.

    You don't want to be a diplomat because of all these generalizations your making. Let the world be fresh and open and new. There is hope and a bountiful mess of possible futures, directions for humanity.

    If you think subtle ideas about life are enough to alienate yourself permanently, it makes sense why a song about oneness would make you sick.

    But I don't understand why it make you sick. Could you help me understand?

    I'm David, I'm pale as al gothic times but I'm black as all jettt in my core. Don't let the superficial generalizations blind you from your own team, mate.


    Your tale of spending time in a bomb shelter with a multi-ethnic -religious -gendered -specied community is surely touching, but it means exactly squat. It confers upon you no cred whatsoever.
  • FirestormDavi...

    Posts: 340

    Apr 29, 2016 7:57 PM GMT
    Haha dude that was the other guy who actually lives in Israel. I don't live there...yet...haha.

    Did you read what the dude who spoke to my group said about peace? The guy who was in jail for throwing a rock at Israeli Border patrol because one of them killed his bro? And against the hopeless view that affects many, not just you, because the challenge IS so great...was changed into hope.

    A passion for bringing about reconciliation.

    He is working on building a park where Israeli and Palestinian families gather and party...it's called Heaven Park.


    What is it with you and affection? Sorry if you were devoid of it. But saying 'touching' sarcastically and saying you don't care about feelings isn't convincing me that you don't really need a hug from a friend. We all do. Life's intense. Even he who stands most mighty...has a positive chemical reaction to a hug.

    It's not because you think that you shouldn't want to feel. It's because you think that you should want to feel.

  • secondstartot...

    Posts: 1314

    Apr 29, 2016 8:06 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    FirestormDavid saidwell if yo think that liking a piece of land more than me, liking a form of bartering more than me, is reason enough to consider me as good as alien beings to each other, I'm going to challenge you to allow life to be bigger than your homeland and Your Way. That's selfish.

    Why do you keep saying you don't care about my/our/any feelings? haha are ah...are you trying to proove how hard you are? Having a heart is the real power.

    You don't want to be a diplomat because of all these generalizations your making. Let the world be fresh and open and new. There is hope and a bountiful mess of possible futures, directions for humanity.

    If you think subtle ideas about life are enough to alienate yourself permanently, it makes sense why a song about oneness would make you sick.

    But I don't understand why it make you sick. Could you help me understand?

    I'm David, I'm pale as al gothic times but I'm black as all jettt in my core. Don't let the superficial generalizations blind you from your own team, mate.


    Your tale of spending time in a bomb shelter with a multi-ethnic -religious -gendered -specied community is surely touching, but it means exactly squat. It confers upon you no cred whatsoever.


    and all your posturing and hate does not confer any cred whatsoever on you at all... and if you can't understand that I understand what life is like in a little corner of the actual middle east because , I actually live here


    .... then it explains a lot about where you are coming from .. no religion is perfect you think Christianity is so rosy ?... or Judaism ? no country is perfect ... but we as people are really all the same and the vast majority of us want the same ... except for the ones who are filled with blind hate .... and if wanting peace and understanding makes me a liberal then so be it ... thank fuck I am not the alternative
  • JackNNJ

    Posts: 1051

    Apr 29, 2016 10:09 PM GMT
    FirestormDavid saidHaha dude that was the other guy who actually lives in Israel. I don't live there...yet...haha.

    Did you read what the dude who spoke to my group said about peace? The guy who was in jail for throwing a rock at Israeli Border patrol because one of them killed his bro? And against the hopeless view that affects many, not just you, because the challenge IS so great...was changed into hope.

    A passion for bringing about reconciliation.

    He is working on building a park where Israeli and Palestinian families gather and party...it's called Heaven Park.


    What is it with you and affection? Sorry if you were devoid of it. But saying 'touching' sarcastically and saying you don't care about feelings isn't convincing me that you don't really need a hug from a friend. We all do. Life's intense. Even he who stands most mighty...has a positive chemical reaction to a hug.

    It's not because you think that you shouldn't want to feel. It's because you think that you should want to feel.



    My bad. You're all interchangeable.

    I can be as affectionate as anyone, but when it comes to Islam, and white liberal politics pertaining to self-important gay activism, trannies bitching, intersectionality, screaming genderism, third-wave feminism, and general hatred for the West, I don't give a fuck about feelings.

  • JackNNJ

    Posts: 1051

    Apr 29, 2016 10:21 PM GMT
    secondstartotheright said
    JackNNJ said
    FirestormDavid saidwell if yo think that liking a piece of land more than me, liking a form of bartering more than me, is reason enough to consider me as good as alien beings to each other, I'm going to challenge you to allow life to be bigger than your homeland and Your Way. That's selfish.

    Why do you keep saying you don't care about my/our/any feelings? haha are ah...are you trying to proove how hard you are? Having a heart is the real power.

    You don't want to be a diplomat because of all these generalizations your making. Let the world be fresh and open and new. There is hope and a bountiful mess of possible futures, directions for humanity.

    If you think subtle ideas about life are enough to alienate yourself permanently, it makes sense why a song about oneness would make you sick.

    But I don't understand why it make you sick. Could you help me understand?

    I'm David, I'm pale as al gothic times but I'm black as all jettt in my core. Don't let the superficial generalizations blind you from your own team, mate.


    Your tale of spending time in a bomb shelter with a multi-ethnic -religious -gendered -specied community is surely touching, but it means exactly squat. It confers upon you no cred whatsoever.


    and all your posturing and hate does not confer any cred whatsoever on you at all... and if you can't understand that I understand what life is like in a little corner of the actual middle east because , I actually live here


    .... then it explains a lot about where you are coming from .. no religion is perfect you think Christianity is so rosy ?... or Judaism ? no country is perfect ... but we as people are really all the same and the vast majority of us want the same ... except for the ones who are filled with blind hate .... and if wanting peace and understanding makes me a liberal then so be it ... thank fuck I am not the alternative


    I have never argued ONCE that ANYTHING is "perfect." But Judaism and Christianity managed to ride the wave of the Enlightenment and remain whole and still-relevant. Islam purposely fled the beach and remained backward, hateful, insular, and barbaric.

    IT could be no other way; at its base Islam is incapable of transformation or rehabilitation. And that is

    NOT MY FUCKING FAULT, SO SUCK IT.

    FUCK ISLAM.
  • FirestormDavi...

    Posts: 340

    Apr 29, 2016 10:27 PM GMT
    yeah all interchangeable spoken like a true blind seer. You tell others to wise up and then generalize. i want to help you see where you don't make sense.

    what is self important gay activism?

    Demanding respect diplomatically.

    You don't want people who have your back?
  • JackNNJ

    Posts: 1051

    Apr 29, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
    FirestormDavid saidyeah all interchangeable spoken like a true blind seer. You tell others to wise up and then generalize. i want to help you see where you don't make sense.

    what is self important gay activism?

    Demanding respect diplomatically.

    You don't want people who have your back?


    It's not my fault that you all speak think and act exactly alike. That's on you.

    And frankly, no, I don't want self-righteous white Liberals, whether gay or self-proclaimed "straight allies" (vomit) having my back.

    They are self-important evidenced by their condescending attitude toward people, their savior complex, viewing the world as one big Kindergarten classroom, with all the bullshit rules and snacky-/nappy-times that come with it.

    I've got my own fucking back. Me an muh wiggaz, niggaz, jiggaz, and quiggaz will be just fine without the Human Rights Campaign and GLAAD and any other self-righteous mob of patronizing douches you can name.

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  • Fireworkz

    Posts: 606

    Apr 29, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidStupid people always mean well, but they're still stupid.



    So what if you are gay and muslim?
    And why is it only white gay liberals that can support Islam?
    What about liberals of other colours?
  • JackNNJ

    Posts: 1051

    Apr 29, 2016 10:41 PM GMT
    Fireworkz said
    JackNNJ saidStupid people always mean well, but they're still stupid.



    So what if you are gay and muslim?
    And why is it only white gay liberals that can support Islam?
    What about liberals of other colours?


    U all up in da Kool-aid but u got da wrong flava. Darling.