Torn rotator cuff?

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    May 05, 2016 3:45 AM GMT
    OMFG, the pain is excruciating! I have had an issue with this injury for many years, but not to the stage it is now. I could always massage, heat, ice or stretch it out. Not now... i can barely move my arm and the pain is unfucking believable! From what i have read and know from a history of having this, i may have done the final damage and torn it.
    I spent the weekend 30' up a ladder wielding a chain saw ( with the 1 arm in question) cutting down a tree and all seemed ok. Some ain but nothing out of the ordinary. The next day, I was broom sword fighting with my 21 yr old son ( as we are known to do, LOL) and i felt some sharp cutting pain. Figured i had maybe pulled it again, but nope... This is the worst i have ever felt it.
    24 hrs later and I can barely move my right shoulder and arm.
    Anyone have any good DIY relief ideas? Im afraid i will need to visit the emergency dept and have it checked out.
  • badbug

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    May 05, 2016 4:06 AM GMT
    Go to the doctor. Quit using that arm, now, don't do any DIY bullshit and go to the doctor. You are going to need an x-ray or some type of imaging anyways, so might as well head to the emergency room and oversell how much pain you are in. Maybe you'll get some oxys! (you won't) icon_smile.gif


    Sorry, waiting at the doctor is unavoidable and you are going to wait for imaging anyways, so just suck it up and head down there now. Oversell the pain! Oversell! Don't act tough and manly and wait an extra 3 hours.

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    May 05, 2016 4:28 AM GMT
    well, luckily for me, i can't use it! And i doubt i will have to oversell the pain either.
    I found an 9 yr old oxcy from long ago dental surgery. It hasn't helped, nor have any other pain killers, and i even washed them down with wine.
    I think I'm in for a long sleepless night. icon_cry.gif
  • badbug

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    May 05, 2016 4:33 AM GMT
    I found an 9 yr old oxcy

    You found nothing then. 9 years is more than enough to wipe out most of its performance.

    Go to the emergency room you dummy. Can't be clearer about that. icon_smile.gif


    Opioids and Booze, good plan if you want to die young (well not young) and have your anti-homosexual rants be scrutinized after your death, not unlike certain former formerly known as artists that shall remain nameless.

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    May 05, 2016 4:35 AM GMT
    wait, i have anti-homosexual rants??
  • badbug

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    May 05, 2016 4:36 AM GMT

    Probably. I just assume.


    Are you going to St.Paul's? Go now. And are you writing with your one good arm?
  • badbug

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    May 05, 2016 4:44 AM GMT

    Shit. I think he died.

    Sigh. I guess i now look the most like Harry Potter's dad.
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    May 05, 2016 4:55 AM GMT
    LOL... you obviously volunteer at hospitals to cheer people up? LOL..
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    May 05, 2016 4:56 AM GMT
    I used this and it fixed mine:

    http://www.amazon.com/Treat-Your-Own-Rotator-Cuff/dp/1598582062/

    There may be others on amazon that will also help.
  • interestingch...

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    May 05, 2016 8:28 AM GMT
    If you can handle any heat on it, look up on google and even better you tube and do a castor oil pack on the front and back, you can only do one side at a time, maybe for a couple hours at a time, take pain killers to help with the pain, minimise any movement for several weeks. Make sure you use organic oil, it may have cold pressed written on the side instead of organic, it has amazing healing benefits, the heat opens the pores and the oil gets in through the skin through several inches and helps to heal the area, I don't know how it works but its amazing stuff and I always turn to that first before anything else. You may need someone to help you do it, as with any oil it stains all clothes, bedding, carpets etc. To clean it off you, mix sodium bicarbonate, baking soda is the common name, mix it with warm water and wipe off. I would be interested in how you get on with it. Good luck, any questions then just ask.
  • monstapex

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    May 05, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
    A friend told me about Active Release Therapy when i messed my rotator up a few years ago . After a few treatments the pain was gone . A few more treatment i was good as new . You should check it out.
    http://synergyhealthmanagement.com/active-release-technique/



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    May 05, 2016 5:16 PM GMT
    Heat is the one thing to avoid - it will only increase the swelling and inflammation. Icing, aspirin or ibuprofen to help lessen the swelling, and a visit to the doc. Sharp pain in joints - like a needle (or musically high notes)- generally indicates damage to cartilage, whereas dull pain - like a punch (or musically like bass notes) - generally indicates ligament damage.

    Most likely the only way you'll find out what is damaged is via an MRI - no need to pay the emergency room bill for that. Get in to see your ortho doc and learn what is wrong. Shoulders can take a very long time to heal - with or without surgery.
  • interestingch...

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    May 05, 2016 8:53 PM GMT
    CrabNebula saidHeat is the one thing to avoid - it will only increase the swelling and inflammation. Icing, aspirin or ibuprofen to help lessen the swelling, and a visit to the doc. Sharp pain in joints - like a needle (or musically high notes)- generally indicates damage to cartilage, whereas dull pain - like a punch (or musically like bass notes) - generally indicates ligament damage.

    Most likely the only way you'll find out what is damaged is via an MRI - no need to pay the emergency room bill for that. Get in to see your ortho doc and learn what is wrong. Shoulders can take a very long time to heal - with or without surgery.


    colloidal gold is a very good anti inflammatory and will help to heal the area, buy from a reputable company and get advice from them on how much to take, gold is used in treatment for arthritis through injection, don't do that because its painful, drink it instead, it works on a cellular level.
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    May 06, 2016 5:52 AM GMT
    Thanks. All good tips. Went to emergency, they did nothing. Referred me to a sports therapist specializing in soft tissue injuries. Told me to take at least 1200mg of ibuprofen, keep it in a sling for a few hours a day.
    I must admit taking 1200 mg today has helped a fair amount. It allowed me to get 4 hours of sleep. Not sure how my guts will like it. Old age sucks!! icon_mad.gif lol
  • interestingch...

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    May 06, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    I am doing some training in holistic medicine, I asked my teacher about your condition.
    mix together some apple cider vinegar and table salt, soak a flannel in the mixture add plastic on top and then a hot water bottle, not too hot though, it will help heal the area but keep the arm in a sling and try not to use it at all.
    When you can manage it, massage in to the area as well.
    the majority should be the salt which is damp with the vinegar.
    what have you got to loose in trying.
  • ChicagoSteve

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    May 06, 2016 10:03 PM GMT
    Oh how I can identify with this. But there is hope! I went through a right rotator cuff/shoulder injury that lasted 3 and a half years. And I had pain the whole time. It is now completely healed. First, go and get an MRI to determine exactly what the damage is. I would also recommend doing massage, taking Turmeric supplements, which I swear was the main reason I healed, and I also went and had acupuncture treatments from a Chinese doctor. Now I am completely healed and back to swimming full strength at the health club. Turmeric supplements and acupuncture are the magic words.
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    May 06, 2016 10:38 PM GMT
    I can be all for holistic, natural treatments. I have to admit I have never heard of numeric supplements. This has been an on and off problem for me for years.
    I will say, I have seen babies born faster than you can get an MRI done in Canada. lol.
    Even the skin around the shoulder area is sore to the slightest touch. thanks for the suggestions..
  • badbug

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    May 07, 2016 12:55 AM GMT

    They didn't do shit? That's terrible. I bet you acted too Macho. Probably should't of worn your weight belt and done concentration curls with your one good arm while you were waiting, you sick fuck.

    Turmeric is all the rage now apparently, i've looked into it. It does have a nasty effect of slowing down your liver's ability to process certain shit, like certain shit stays in your blood longer for higher concentrations, so you wouldn't want to be taking turmeric in high doses if you are taking a bunch of other shit, atleast i wouldn't want to.

    Also, Turmeric is pretty much useless unless you take it with piperine, an ingredient in pepper. So you would have to take turmeric with pepper, fresh cracked, or a supplement that contains both turmeric and piperine.


    Look into "hanging for shoulder pain relief". (just google that) and look around. I have shoulder issues too and am just starting it, it seems to be helping already. I feel good after i do it. Obviously you need to recover first, but look it up now. Seems to be a lot of positive feedback on amazon about the doctor that has popularized it.


    Also, computer usage fucks with shoulder tendons (for some people) big time. Do you work rest periods into your computer use?

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    May 07, 2016 7:22 PM GMT
    ^^^^ They didn't do shit? That's terrible. I bet you acted too Macho. Probably should't of worn your weight belt and done concentration curls with your one good arm while you were waiting, you sick fuck.

    Actually I wore my best pink frock with a plunging neckline... Didn't do a thing!! LOL..

    Thanks for the advice on the hanging part. Im trying a huge rubber band for gentle movement. The pain has subsided and i have some mobility, likely due to the mega anti-inflamitories I'm taking. My guts will never be the same. Im trying to get it moving, but slowly..
    you're a sick fuck!!! LOL.
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    May 09, 2016 1:51 AM GMT
    Acupuncture works for me for the same issue as does heat and massage from my physiotherapist.
  • interestingch...

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    May 09, 2016 6:12 PM GMT
    As an anti inflammatory you could always take colloidal gold which is a natural way to do it, you would have to get advice on how much to ingest from either the company you buy it from or a holistic practitioner who is educated on using it, it has amazing benefits apparently, I do use colloidal silver as an anti viral anti bacterial but not the gold yet, I know they use gold to inject into arthritis sufferers which helps a lot.
    It will be better for your digestive system and is natural and not full of other things which lets face it ha a lot of side effects.
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    May 13, 2016 6:55 PM GMT
    Got a cortisone shot yesterday. Pain free... why they didn't give one earlier.. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • jon666uk

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    May 22, 2016 1:00 PM GMT
    I have the same problem. The doctor said the pain was caused by bleeding into the muscle which cause it to inflame. The bleeding had stopped, but he gave me some anti inflammatory drugs to solve the problem. Note the drugs were so strong, he gave me others to protect my stomach from their effects. About 4 weeks later, most of the pain was gone and my shoulder back to normal. This is not a quick fix. I am now back to my old weights, but still have a few pains from time to time
  • mcbrion

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    Jun 02, 2016 3:44 PM GMT
    I have had rotator cuff issues on both shoulders since 2001, but they were okay until 2008. Glucosamine Chondroitin is very helpful, although it does take a week or two to kick in.
    As for turmeric, I've been using it for 12 years, and the worst side effect I've personally noticed (and I gave it to my mother for Alzheimer's and it was quite strikingly effective in 1Gram dosages) was constipation. I had never heard it affected the liver, but it hasn't affected mine. I was tested for everything after my brother died of pancreatic cancer 2 years ago, so we wanted to make sure I was okay (cancer runs in the family). MY liver was fine, so I suspect this is a case-by-case thing.
    But the Glucosamine worked wonders and by the time my GP (the klutz) had sent me to an orthopedic surgeon, the pain had all but disappeared. They did an MRI anyway, and I told the orthopedic surgeon I was taking glucosamine just to see his reaction. He didn't react at all, so when I asked, "So you're okay with the glucosamine?" He replied, yes, it's a well-known anti-inflammatory. Just don't expect it to work like a pain pill. It does not. It works over a period of weeks.
    (And turmeric with Black pepper? Sorry, I never gave my mother that and the whole reason turmeric was recommended for Alzheimer's is that it was discovered China and India had the lowest rates of Alzheimer's and they determined it was the turmeric.) But I'll investigate further. Thanks for the heads up.
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    Jun 02, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
    badbug said
    They didn't do shit? That's terrible. I bet you acted too Macho. Probably should't of worn your weight belt and done concentration curls with your one good arm while you were waiting, you sick fuck.

    Turmeric is all the rage now apparently, i've looked into it. It does have a nasty effect of slowing down your liver's ability to process certain shit, like certain shit stays in your blood longer for higher concentrations, so you wouldn't want to be taking turmeric in high doses if you are taking a bunch of other shit, atleast i wouldn't want to.

    Also, Turmeric is pretty much useless unless you take it with piperine, an ingredient in pepper. So you would have to take turmeric with pepper, fresh cracked, or a supplement that contains both turmeric and piperine.

    Hmmm....not what this site says: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-turmeric-may-be-diseased-livers-best-friend-friend-a

    And I've used it since 2004, long before it was "the rage" and, as I've said, never used it with pepper and never had liver issues. And I take 1 gram a day in powdered form which I got from a wholesale place (Organic India). I wonder when the rumor about liver disease started. It's not hurting the Chinese or Indians. Maybe we have different biochemical makeups?



    Look into "hanging for shoulder pain relief". (just google that) and look around. I have shoulder issues too and am just starting it, it seems to be helping already. I feel good after i do it. Obviously you need to recover first, but look it up now. Seems to be a lot of positive feedback on amazon about the doctor that has popularized it.


    Also, computer usage fucks with shoulder tendons (for some people) big time. Do you work rest periods into your computer use?