US House Speaker Paul Ryan 'can't back Trump'

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    May 05, 2016 8:33 PM GMT
    Uh-oh

    US House Speaker Paul Ryan has said he cannot currently support Donald Trump as Republican presidential nominee.

    Mr Ryan, the highest-ranked elected Republican, called for the Mr Trump to strive for "higher aspirations".

    Former presidents George W Bush and George H W Bush also said Thursday that they will not endorse the controversial presumptive nominee.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36216325
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    May 05, 2016 9:01 PM GMT
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/06/us/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump.html?_r=0
    ...Mr. Ryan, who is also chairman of the Republican National Convention, has repeatedly said he would support his party’s nominee. But he has carved out some terrain to differentiate himself, by insisting that House Republicans write their own policy agenda this year and by giving speeches that at times criticized Mr. Trump’s views. Mr. Ryan said Republicans needed a “standard-bearer” who embodied the party’s standards.

    “I don’t want to underplay what he accomplished,” Mr. Ryan said in an interview on CNN with Jake Tapper. But he added, “We hope that our nominee aspires to be Lincoln and Reaganesque,”...


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/04/08/donald-trump-has-never-had-any-idea-what-he-was-talking-about-we-only-just-noticed/
    Donald Trump has never had any idea what he was talking about. We only just noticed.

    Asked by Bob Woodward what made Abraham Lincoln succeed, Donald Trump offered the following response:

    “Well,” Trump said, “I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man that did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time.” And then he started to ramble about Richard Nixon.


    lolololol

    It's like the Republicans are nominating Palin, only with a smaller dick.
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    May 05, 2016 9:16 PM GMT
    So does this mean a contested convention idea is a flop no go? icon_lol.gif

    They're like children on a playground, "you cant play with that, that's mine", "im tellin mom", "im not going cause hes going"
    "you stupa, cucka face" icon_lol.gif

    That Texas NWO Bush clan is furious! icon_lol.gif



    Romney skipping GOP convention, joins list of presidents, leaders
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/mitt-romney-skips-republican-convention/


    Mitt Romney won't attend the Republican National Convention this summer, joining three previous nominees in skipping the event and underscoring the deep divide inside the GOP over Donald Trump becoming the party's standard-bearer.

    An aide to Romney said Thursday that the former Massachusetts governor would not go, despite accepting the nomination at the convention four years ago.


    With Trump as the party's presumptive nominee, whether to attend the convention has become the latest front in an internal party struggle over how to handle the billionaire businessman's role in the GOP.

    A spokesman for former President George W. Bush said yesterday that he would not be attending and a spokesman for his former President George H.W. Bush said he would not attend either. Jeb Bush, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination, told CNN earlier this year that he would not attend the convention.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 06, 2016 12:08 AM GMT
    The Donald is a grave threat to the status quo in the GOP so obviously all these establishment republicans are bent out of shape because the Donald is most likely going to be the republican nominee whether they like it or not. If Bernie cannot win the democratic nomination which is very possible at this point, than Donald Trump is going to be our next President.
  • KissTheSky

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    May 06, 2016 12:37 AM GMT
    Trump the racist crackpot is toxic waste -- elected officials do NOT want to be associated with his massive loss in November.
    It seems like all the prominent Republicans are running away from Trump as fast as they can.
    A humiliating public shaming for Trump, but richly deserved by this hateful bigot.
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    May 06, 2016 12:53 AM GMT
    Ryan will change his tune as November approaches. It's one thing for 2 Republican ex-Presidents, the Bushes, to withhold their support for Trump (as much because they're pissed that Jeb! was a 2016 flop). But entirely another thing for the current Republican Speaker of the House to not endorse the Republican Presidential candidate.

    Precedent and Party pressure will compel Ryan. Otherwise his own position as Speaker (or as Majority Leader if the unthinkable happens in November) will be threatened.
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    May 06, 2016 9:04 PM GMT
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    Trump Seeks Republican Unity but Finds Rejection

    Donald J. Trump may find it difficult to raise funds after being shunned by respected party figures, including Mitt Romney, Paul D. Ryan and President George W. Bush and Mr. Bush’s father.

    Hoping for a moment of party unity, Mr. Trump had scarcely declared victory in Indiana when the cascade of rejection began, starting with the announcement by George Bush and his son George W. Bush, the only former Republican presidents still living, that they would not back his candidacy. And on Thursday night, Mitt Romney, the party’s 2012 nominee, said he intended to hold to his earlier pledge not to vote for Mr. Trump, according to an audio recording of his remarks. Mr. Romney said at a private speech in Washington that he was “dismayed” by the state of the campaign. “I wish we had better choices,” Mr. Romney said. “I keep hoping that things will somehow get better.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/donald-trump-seeks-republican-unity-but-finds-rejection.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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    May 06, 2016 10:06 PM GMT
    After the Republican convention, when Trump is officially confirmed as the GOP Presidential standard bearer, a lot of these naysayers will change their tune. They must, or undermine their own electoral base.

    They are Republican politicians, after all, aren't they? For whom Party comes before people. And if the Party chooses Trump at the convention they'll soon get in line. If only for the sake of their own hides, certainly not for the good of the country.

    And of course will blame their flip-flop on Hillary Clinton. Saying she's a worse choice than Trump (really???). Some Repubs endorsing Trump are already doing that, even before Hillary has been selected by her own Party's convention.
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    May 06, 2016 10:22 PM GMT
    After all, Trump is the new liberal on the block who will crush all in the establishment, rewrite the rules and call the frauds, fakes, flakes and worthless do-nothing in DC out!
    lol
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 06, 2016 11:20 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidAfter the Republican convention, when Trump is officially confirmed as the GOP Presidential standard bearer, a lot of these naysayers will change their tune. They must, or undermine their own electoral base.

    They are Republican politicians, after all, aren't they? For whom Party comes before people. And if the Party chooses Trump at the convention they'll soon get in line. If only for the sake of their own hides, certainly not for the good of the country.

    And of course blame their flip-flop on Hillary Clinton. Saying she's a worse choice than Trump (really???). Some Repubs endorsing Trump are already doing that, even before Hillary has been selected by her own Party's convention.
    Yes Hillary is the worse choice for President than even Donald Trump. She is a crook and a pathological liar. She has no credible leadership skills and only talks a good game. Yet you are foolish enough to want this incompetent, hot tempered whore for President.
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    May 07, 2016 12:34 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidAfter the Republican convention, when Trump is officially confirmed as the GOP Presidential standard bearer, a lot of these naysayers will change their tune. They must, or undermine their own electoral base.

    They are Republican politicians, after all, aren't they? For whom Party comes before people. And if the Party chooses Trump at the convention they'll soon get in line. If only for the sake of their own hides, certainly not for the good of the country.

    And of course blame their flip-flop on Hillary Clinton. Saying she's a worse choice than Trump (really???). Some Repubs endorsing Trump are already doing that, even before Hillary has been selected by her own Party's convention.
    Yes Hillary is the worse choice for President than even Donald Trump. She is a crook and a pathological liar. She has no credible leadership skills and only talks a good game. Yet you are foolish enough to want this incompetent, hot tempered whore for President.

    Your constant, unqualified, and actually slanderous referral to Hillary as a "whore" or a "ho" in every post here, for the past year, invalidates your credibility here.

    And if we're gonna talk about crooks, what better example than Trump? The cases against him regarding his failed Trump University scam are still working their way through the court system. Will be exciting if they erupt after his nomination at the convention is confirmed.

    And far more compelling than my personal opinions, or yours, are the comments by prominent US leaders, including Republicans, that Trump is unhinged, a serial philanderer, a pathological liar... the list of serious negatives is rather long.

    Republicans have painted themselves into a corner with Trump, with their own past irresponsible rhetoric, policies and tactics. It's fun now to watch them squirm at the unintended results. Apologists like you notwithstanding, Republicans have fucked themselves royally, and their senior leaders know it.
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    May 07, 2016 7:27 PM GMT
    Ryan may not back Trump, but in the privacy of that voting booth he will vote for Trump. The same goes for all, or most, of the Republicans who are purportedly against Trump. The Republicans are singularly worried about the Supreme Court, and they will do everything to make sure that Clinton doesn't get to appoint the next SCOTUS justice.
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    May 07, 2016 7:32 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidRyan may not back Trump, but in the privacy of that voting booth he will vote for Trump. The same goes for all, or most, of the Republicans who are purportedly against Trump. The Republicans are singularly worried about the Supreme Court, and they will do everything to make sure that Clinton doesn't get to appoint the next SCOTUS justice.

    Yes. And their unprecedented Senate decision to not even consider President Obama's Supreme Court nomininee to take the place of late Justice Scalia (may he rest in Hell) may come back to haunt them if Hillary becomes President, and they lose the Senate.

    Therefore a lot of Republican Party actions are now focused on saving the Senate, not on getting Trump elected. When a Party goes into damage control, you know things are not going well. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 07, 2016 10:07 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidUh-oh

    US House Speaker Paul Ryan has said he cannot currently support Donald Trump as Republican presidential nominee.

    Key word is "currently". Ryan will change his tune just before or after the Republican convention. There's no way in Hell the Republican Speaker of the US House of Representatives will not openly support the Republican Presidential nominee confirmed at their convention. He'd be voted out of his position as Speaker by fellow House Republicans if he didn't support Trump.