Trump - great at running his mouth, but can he run a campaign?

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    May 06, 2016 12:02 PM GMT
    http://www.thedailyreporteronline.com/news/2016/05/06/donald-trump-far-behind-preparing-general-election
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    May 07, 2016 2:22 PM GMT
    We're not seeing much in the way of signs that he can.
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    May 07, 2016 3:03 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.thedailyreporteronline.com/news/2016/05/06/donald-trump-far-behind-preparing-general-election


    I will let you "Hidden/deleted" members discuss your "FUD".....as tho it is a real issue.
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    May 07, 2016 3:21 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidhttp://www.thedailyreporteronline.com/news/2016/05/06/donald-trump-far-behind-preparing-general-election


    I will let you "Hidden/deleted" members discuss your "FUD".....as tho it is a real issue.

    People can have different opinions and there are normal people who don't like Trump. But there seems to be a correlation between Hidden Members and being virulently anti-Trump. Does he stir up deep passions in the mentally ill? Does someone overly confident in himself evoke deep negative feelings in some who have an extremely weak self-image?
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    May 07, 2016 4:55 PM GMT
    There's another correlation: a jammed-up and jelly-tight connection between no-namers and what Jonathan Swift called "the thing which is not," i.e., denial, untruth, a/o falsity. We see it manifested here by the thread's question, which the Symphony of One answers in the negative,* despite the fact that Trump's success in running his campaign has effectively secured him the GOP nomination.
    Now for my opinion, which for those who don't know the difference is not the same as the facts: he's doing just fine, TYVM, and will continue to improve as November approaches. Moreover, I believe he's that rare example of a candidate - he's no politician, wherein may lie others' problem - who actually learns something as he/she goes along the campaign trail, "listening tours" and other self-serving blather notwithstanding.
    Jail time for Billary? Hell, with Obama's DOJ, she'll never even be charged with anything, let alone be convicted and serve time, unless she somehow crosses him in the Byzantine world of Democratic infighting. The only thing more worth a peep into than that shit-show would be Obama's college and law school transcripts, and those won't see the light of day for a l-o-n-g time, if ever.
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    *And, rather impatiently too, given the 2:20 hr. "allowance" for responses to come pouring in. What does OCD stand for, again?
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    May 07, 2016 4:56 PM GMT
    It seemed crazy and unorthodox when President Nixon ended the dollar's convertibility into gold in 1971, undermining the post-war Bretton Woods currency regime. It seemed crazy when private ownership of gold was outlawed during in the Great Depression. And it seemed crazy when the Treasury started issuing fiat currency — known as "greenbacks" for their distinctive coloration — to bolster the war effort against the rebels in the South.

    Perhaps history books will mark President Trump's write-down of the national debt as another entry in the list of crazy economic ideas that got America back on track.

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2016/05/06/Why-Trumps-US-Debt-Default-Isn-t-Idiotic-It-Sounds
  • Brooklyn85

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    May 07, 2016 5:03 PM GMT
    Lol u think he's going to win
  • KissTheSky

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    May 07, 2016 5:29 PM GMT
    The polls tell it all -- Republicans nominated their worst candidate, with the least chance of winning. Donald Trump is literally the most unpopular candidate in history. (Google it.)
    BTW he is not even a real Republican - he was recently a registered Democrat who was donating money to Hillary. Many people think this all a stunt to get free publicity, because his favorite thing is to run his mouth in front of a camera.
    Now the GOP is falling apart because half their members hate him.

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    May 07, 2016 7:18 PM GMT
    He can't, but his highly paid advisers and surrogates can. The only question is whether Trump could set aside his narcissism and defer to them for strategic advice.
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    May 07, 2016 7:40 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe polls tell it all -- Republicans nominated their worst candidate, with the least chance of winning. Donald Trump is literally the most unpopular candidate in history. (Google it.)
    BTW he is not even a real Republican - he was recently a registered Democrat who was donating money to Hillary. Many people think this all a stunt to get free publicity, because his favorite thing is to run his mouth in front of a camera.
    Now the GOP is falling apart because half their members hate him.



    I think if the polls were right, it would have been some other candidate at this point. I think team Hillary is pretty afraid of this match up as he is too unpredictable .

    They could raise a few million in PPV fees off of the debates they would necessarily have.
    Forget about polls, which major Presidential candidate had a possible federal indictment hovering over them ?

    Too many variables, maybe even for Nate Silver.
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    May 07, 2016 11:17 PM GMT
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    Jail time for Billary? Hell, with Obama's DOJ, she'll never even be charged with anything


    In the absence of the much anticipated "Hillary indictment", this is the rather predictable conservative fallback narrative we can expect to hear for the next eight and a half years. The fact the current FBI Director is a Republican with a reputation for scrupulousness (and no love for the Clintons) will of course be quietly disregarded. Conservatives know that, when it comes to Clinton, the next best thing to a real scandal is a fake one.
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    May 08, 2016 1:21 AM GMT
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    May 08, 2016 1:36 AM GMT
    Trump is an entertainer and a professional fraud.
    The same could be said of all other politicians.
    But Trump is remarkable as a megalomaniac.

    His followers seem to be the proud, know-nothings that are already ruining our country, IMHO.
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    May 08, 2016 3:18 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidWe're not seeing much in the way of signs that he can.


    Really? No signs? Sorry, I need to respectfully disagree.

    Donald Trump, a man who has never run for any public office before, just took out 17 other candidates one by one --- several who were highly respected past or sitting governors, several top leading senators among them. He did this all while battling over $100 million in negative advertising aimed at taking him down, and navigating a mine field of his own words and other missteps that would have leveled the campaign of any other candidate. Is he the perfect candidate? No, hardly. Does he have some serious work to do winning back certain sectors of the voters he has offended if he has any chance of wining? Of course. Regardless, based on results, clearly he's struck a chord with millions of Americans and he's doing something right. "Unconventional" has served him very well so far.
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    May 08, 2016 3:19 PM GMT
    Kantankerous saidTrump is an entertainer and a professional fraud.
    The same could be said of all other politicians.
    But Trump is remarkable as a megalomaniac.

    His followers seem to be the proud, know-nothings that are already ruining our country, IMHO.

    +1
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    May 08, 2016 3:35 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidWe're not seeing much in the way of signs that he can.

    Really? No signs? Sorry, I need to respectfully disagree.

    Donald Trump, a man who has never run for any public office before, just took out 17 other candidates one by one --- several who were highly respected past or sitting governors, several top leading senators among them.

    The linked article in the OP dealt with Trump running a Presidential GENERAL election, against the Democrats. Trump triumphed in the Republican primaries. Against a clown-car assortment of incompetent competitors. And where Trump's bullying bluster, bigotries & bombast played well in that demographic of like-minded Teabagger types.

    Political experts and his "own" Party's leaders are doubtful that approach will work well in the General Election against Hillary Clinton. So let's stay on topic and focus on the realities of the upcoming General Election, shall we?

    http://www.thedailyreporteronline.com/news/2016/05/06/donald-trump-far-behind-preparing-general-election
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    May 08, 2016 3:42 PM GMT
    Kantankerous saidTrump is an entertainer and a professional fraud.
    The same could be said of all other politicians.
    But Trump is remarkable as a megalomaniac.

    His followers seem to be the proud, know-nothings that are already ruining our country, IMHO.


    We here, well me anyway, here in the UK are watching this battle with increasing fascination! And our politicians too are a bunch of crooks and liars, so no difference there! He who knows nothing! She with oh so much baggage, but experience of high office. And is America ready for a woman in the White House. We did it. Margaret Thatcher. Might you! And as for Trump knowing nothing. He doesn't have to! Just surround himself with people who do, then he can blame 'them' when things go wrong!
    Jonathan
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    May 08, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said

    Political experts and his "own" Party's leaders are doubtful that approach will work well in the General Election against Hillary Clinton. So let's stay on topic and focus on the realities of the upcoming General Election, shall we?



    I AM staying on topic. These same so-called "political experts" and Party Leaders are all the same people that a year ago...even 6 months ago...even 3 months ago were saying with complete confidence "Donald Trump will never be the nominee".

    Bottomline: We are in unchartered territory here. Nobody knows anything. Trump has his own set of rules. Whether they work or not in a general election is anyone's guess. Trump being underestimated has proven a big mistake so far.
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    May 08, 2016 3:49 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidWe're not seeing much in the way of signs that he can.


    Really? No signs? Sorry, I need to respectfully disagree.

    Donald Trump, a man who has never run for any public office before, just took out 17 other candidates one by one --- several who were highly respected past or sitting governors, several top leading senators among them. He did this all while battling over $100 million in negative advertising aimed at taking him down, and navigating a mine field of his own words and other missteps that would have leveled the campaign of any other candidate. Is he the perfect candidate? No, hardly. Does he have some serious work to do winning back certain sectors of the voters he has offended if he has any chance of wining? Of course. Regardless, based on results, clearly he's struck a chord with millions of Americans and he's doing something right. "Unconventional" has served him very well so far.


    Big difference between a campaign and governing as we might see.
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    Art_Deco said

    Political experts and his "own" Party's leaders are doubtful that approach will work well in the General Election against Hillary Clinton. So let's stay on topic and focus on the realities of the upcoming General Election, shall we?

    I AM staying on topic. These same so-called "political experts" and Party Leaders are all the same people that a year ago...even 6 months ago...even 3 months ago were saying with complete confidence "Donald Trump will never be the nominee".

    Bottomline: We are in unchartered territory here. Nobody knows anything. Trump has his own set of rules. Whether they work or not in a general election is anyone's guess. Trump being underestimated has proven a big mistake so far.

    The Donald will not win Democrats. He won't win most independents. There's the election right there. Plus a lot of Republicans are expressing their disgust with him. Trump's lost the Latino vote, the Black vote, and probably the majority of women, thanks to his own ungoverned mouth and Republican Party policies. Hillary landslide.
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    May 08, 2016 3:51 PM GMT
    Kantankerous saidTrump is an entertainer and a professional fraud.
    The same could be said of all other politicians.
    But Trump is remarkable as a megalomaniac.

    His followers seem to be the proud, know-nothings that are already ruining our country, IMHO.


    Well well, who might this be?
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    May 08, 2016 3:52 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said

    Big difference between a campaign and governing as we might see.


    Agreed
  • Lincsbear

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    May 08, 2016 4:10 PM GMT
    Trump has re-written the political rule book to some extent in the primaries, but as said above, his competitors were an unremarkable and unimpressive group.
    To go one step further and win the presidency, he`ll need to do something even more remarkable. The audience in the pimaries has been to his favour. Now he`ll have to face the entire electorate.
    But there are some older rules he may find harder to break. His ratings with women alone are very low and if he fails there, Clinton`s won. All the polls I`ve seen from the last six months show him trailing Clinton by quite a way. If present trends continue, Trump will lose.
    He`ll get a lot of publicity just on the basis of his various comments but that doesn`t add up to a campaign. Nor does saying things are bad in the US. He has to offer a better vision and add in some detail, especially on the foreign affairs front.
    He`s alienated so many voters, and I think he faces a long, uphill battle.
    But as always, it`s a long time to November and the election.
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    May 08, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidTrump has re-written the political rule book to some extent in the primaries, but as said above, his competitors were an unremarkable and unimpressive group.
    To go one step further and win the presidency, he`ll need to do something even more remarkable. The audience in the pimaries has been to his favour. Now he`ll have to face the entire electorate.
    But there are some older rules he may find harder to break. His ratings with women alone are very low and if he fails there, Clinton`s won. All the polls I`ve seen from the last six months show him trailing Clinton by quite a way. If present trends continue, Trump will lose.
    He`ll get a lot of publicity just on the basis of his various comments but that doesn`t add up to a campaign. Nor does saying things are bad in the US. He has to offer a better vision and add in some detail, especially on the foreign affairs front.
    He`s alienated so many voters, and I think he faces a long, uphill battle.
    But as always, it`s a long time to November and the election.

    All true.