How Political Parties Rig Elections

  • metta

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    May 06, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
    How Political Parties Rig Elections




    Demand Representation:
    http://www.independentvoterproject.org/elections_should_be_for_people_not_parties
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    May 07, 2016 5:05 PM GMT
    You left out the part about allowing illegal aliens to not only remain in the US but to register and vote, usually Democratic, and being encouraged to "reunite" their self-severed "families" so even more can do so. But what do I know? I only served as a precinct captain in SF, one of the country's most permissive and flagrant violators of voting laws, and saw it all firsthand.
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    May 08, 2016 7:24 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidYou left out the part about allowing illegal aliens to not only remain in the US but to register and vote, usually Democratic, and being encouraged to "reunite" their self-severed "families" so even more can do so. But what do I know? I only served as a precinct captain in SF, one of the country's most permissive and flagrant violators of voting laws, and saw it all firsthand.


    It was intentionally left out because those of us who are independents don't care to blame one party over the other... we see BOTH as equally bullshit. That's what this video spells out clearly. With a two party system we should have TWICE the solutions to our problems.
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    May 08, 2016 10:19 PM GMT
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    There's probably a case against gerrymandering and the other bitch I've got is senator numbers not based on population sizes (what I'd imagine is a Constitutional can of worms I'd rather not open while this country is so fucking nutz) but for primaries I've got about zero sympathy for the so-called independents.

    Can't you people just tweet the same candidate to each other and then write in that name for the general election? Think how much money you'll save on brochures.

    Pew* shows that the "share of independents in the public, which long ago surpassed the percentages of either Democrats or Republicans, continues to increase. Based on 2014 data, 39% identify as independents, 32% as Democrats and 23% as Republicans. This is the highest percentage of independents in more than 75 years of public opinion polling".

    So not half, but 39% and I think the latest Gallup showed 40something percent.

    But more importantly, Pew also shows that "When the partisan leanings of independents are taken into account, 48% either identify as Democrats or lean Democratic; 39% identify as Republicans or lean Republican."

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    http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/[/url]

    That data was noted in this story:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/01/08/most-political-independents-actually-arent/
    independents who lean toward a party — or “independent leaners” — behave like partisans, on average. They tend to be loyal to their party’s candidate in elections. They tend to have favorable views of many political figures in their party. They are not much more likely to identify as ideologically moderate. To be sure, independent leaners are not as partisan as the strongest partisans. But they resemble weaker partisans much more than they do real independents. In actuality, real independents make up just over 10 percent of Americans, and a small fraction of Americans who actually vote.


    So, really, this youtube, at least the few moments I watched, is kind of a crock, because the true number is closer to 10% and even they are not entirely disenfranchised because they can vote in some primaries and certainly in the general. And they can tweet each other a write-in candidate.

    If they wanted their own selection choices in the primary, they can form The Party of the Loosely Connected by Virtue of Our Not Signing Up with Established Parties or TPOTLCBVOONSUWEP for short. They can hold TPOTLCBVOONSUWEP debates, mail out TPOTLCBVOONSUWEP brochures and even set up a TPOTLCBVOONSUWEP facebook page.

    For the other 90% of the so-called independents, how about this, pull your pants up, tie your shoelaces and pick the side you lean towards anyway. Then get involved to make your party as best you think it ought to be. How difficult is that?
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    May 11, 2016 2:53 AM GMT
    OPPS.... I saw "Rig Elections" and thought it said "Big Erections" my mistake....I don't have anything relevant to sayicon_redface.gif
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    May 11, 2016 11:31 PM GMT
    Eddy12free saidOPPS.... I saw "Rig Elections" and thought it said "Big Erections" my mistake....I don't have anything relevant to sayicon_redface.gif
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