Over 100 Clergy in the United Methodist Church Come Out As LGBT

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    May 11, 2016 7:59 PM GMT
    Over 100 Clergy Come Out As LGBT


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    May 11, 2016 9:12 PM GMT
    It seems odd on the surface of the issue but in reality, not suprising at all
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    May 14, 2016 6:24 AM GMT
    I've left the "Grace and Finished work of Jesus", emphasis kind of Church twice due to being disillusioned.

    My church has a beautiful message that God's Grace means His unmerited Favor on all of Us. The Sun shines, rain waters our crops, the Earth spins within safe perimeters of not freezing or cooking us to death, etc.

    This Grace is due to the Fact that Jesus is, always was, and will be God, the Great I am, as He put it. He explains this concept to us by saying the Way to see God, is as Son, in relationship with Him as Father, and also, His Spirit and they are all One, Holy uncreated always existing, All powerful, All knowing, every where present One.

    The Finished Work part is as Jesus is on the Cross taking on The Full punishment for All of Mankind's sin, He states, "It is Finished ", before His last breathe.

    That means He has, and is the only One, The Father accepts as full payment for the separation that Sin does between God and Mankind.

    The work any Christian does is not to be construed as a means to Heaven, but from the heart felt agreement, the deep cleansing, acceptance that Jesus got on that Cross willingly to bring me personally back into relationship with Him.
    He did everything the Rift between God and Mankind required happen. He Is, The Way, The Truth and The Life, The Only Way to God. Because He is God.

    He is not Religion but Relationship.

    He reaches to us. Religion is Man's attempt at ignoring God, from Eden, Noah, Abraham, David, then Jesus and Making up another way for themselves to play God or worship Fallen Angels Period!

    With that said, Lucifer or Satan or the Dragon or the Serpent of the Garden of Eden, as he is known has always had a problem with the fact that God gives salvation and Redemption only to Us, human beings.

    He is doing everything an Angel of his abilities is capable of to discredit God's Love.

    Now Love is not Sex by itself.

    4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

    8 Love never fails.

    The one thing I hope to make clear is that God sees our entire life, whether one has ever heard the name Jesus or never have.

    He knows who wants to be with Him and who rejects Him.

    Heaven is in God. Hell is the place that Angelic and Human rejection of God has created, because God gives everyone the destination they want.
    Hell is the Eternity of Darkness, Aloneness, and torment of unsatisfied desires.

    LGBTQI people please know that those from our kind of people are in Heaven and sadly , not everyone of us, because not all of us want God.

    Fellow believer's of Jesus actually Love and care about us. So please care about yourselves, please come to know His unfailing, never forsaking Love for you personally.

    I left my church over not experiencing nor understanding how to cope with the affection physical love and belonging that being in love with a only human man gives,

    compared to the very spotty affection received even as a result of being Very active with expressing God's Love to others in church.

    On top of that the oftentimes words of the Bible being used in an unbalanced accusatory way to make me feel like I shouldn't belong with the other redeemed Christians.

    But I'm returning because God has kept Loving me in his pure way that never defiles me nor makes me feel unloved even when I've been through awful messes.

    Jesus never compared me to others.

    Jesus never made me a promise and then decide once he got what he wanted out of me, not to keep his promise.

    Jesus never made me feel dirty.

    Jesus never demeaned me.

    He deserves His Love for me to be offered back to Him because it's more than human infatuation.

    More later
    Love you all