Are you bitter?

  • Eli_jah

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    May 12, 2016 2:16 AM GMT
    I'm bitter, I can admit it. I don't want to be bitter though, and would rather work on bettering myself then wallowing in it all day and being resentful. I do hate that so much of my life and the quality of my life is at times dependent upon the will of others, but that goes for all of us.

    At this point, I think bitterness is an emotion most people in America feel and can relate to. Meh.
  • FirestormDavi...

    Posts: 340

    May 12, 2016 3:17 AM GMT
    yeah dude i know your experience in the artistic sense.

    sculpt whatever unacceptable anything you get from another into what it should be self fulfilling prophecy style.

    bitter cuz we feel the fleets of man love

    degraded to be mere meat

    cast your bitterness and struggle at my feet

    I will worship that shit into spun light pure

    at our feet in the hall of life most sacred

    a light that teases never to shine

    yet the sky has changed its color

    what was once Navy is royal and soon light blue And the White Star will drip its glowing lava into a smile, head back laughin loud.

    Does hearing this make you any less bitter?



    Music video's gonna be sick. Tribal fire dancer indian style in the 60s reinterpretation of the rag doll body hurl slow beat head back up to the sky.

    Mystical symbolism. Passover is my favorite holiday, can't beat being freed from slavery. We eat horse radish to symbolize the bitterness of slavery. It seems that we as gay dudes from ethnic groups that were enslaved, we have a very unique and metaphorical understanding of freedom. Maybe the biggest changes will come form those like us because our spirits are so fed up with all the disrespect.

    But shit's getting better. It's not horrible that the superbowl had some rainbow shit at halftime, God knows football is homoerotic as all bend over so i can put my finger on your gootch and yell at you until you produce the key element at my demand.

    Through the worst horrors reported Anderson Cooper gets shit said. The Sistine Chapel will always be by Michelangelo.

    Brokeback Mountain came out about 15 years ago though, that shit made 178 Million. How have they not made more top level dude gay shit? With explosions and espionage...the CIA loves recruiting gay dudes, we just may know double lives.

    Frank Ocean may drop some good manlove slow jams any day.

    my King Davidness sure will...
  • BuddhaLing

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    May 12, 2016 12:30 PM GMT
    WTF?
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    May 12, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
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    My grandfather used to say simply "quit your bellyaching" especially where you had some control over the situation. But even where life comes down hard on us, beyond our control, be that by betrayals or bad luck or an inconvenient death of a loved one, though at first we might grieve and for a while the mourning lingers or we might be frustrated or be hurt which interferes with our moving forward, failing to find some resolve or at least a way to put things aside can result in the wallowing which just brings you down further.

    Luxuriating in feeling sorry for ourselves comes at the price of happiness.

    How do we move on? With perseverance in the face of adversity. From where comes perseverance? From resilience. And from where comes resilience?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_resilience
    Psychological resilience is defined as an individual's ability to properly adapt to stress and adversity. Stress and adversity can come in the shape of family or relationship problems, health problems, or workplace and financial worries, among others.[1] In other words, resilience is one's ability to bounce back from a negative experience with "competent functioning". Resilience is not a rare ability; in reality, it is found in the average individual and it can be learned and developed by virtually anyone. Resilience should be considered a process, rather than a trait to be had. It is a process of individuation through a structured system with gradual discovery of personal and unique abilities...


    "If suffering can be corrected, then there's no need to be despondent. And if it cannot be remedied, there is no benefit even if one becomes unhappy."~~Shantideva
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    May 12, 2016 1:21 PM GMT
    got to set expectations in line with difficult to figure here.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 12, 2016 2:41 PM GMT
    Absolutely not. "Bitterness" is more than an emotion, it is a way of living life in the future. I've always been an optimistic person.. a "glass half full" when evaluating the good and bad. If you feel a certain outcome is unfair or you were wronged, seek to improve for the future and there are many ways of doing that. Practicing "being reasonable" and happy (in light of challenges) is what I seek.
    We all have challenges in life, what makes you successful or not.. is how you approach them.
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    May 12, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    Why be bitter when you can get revenge?
  • FirestormDavi...

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    May 12, 2016 3:57 PM GMT
    BuddhaLing saidWTF?


    haha did i go too far out for ya, chap?

    you antijock, haha i have no idea why you are anti jock, why are you ant jock? Anyway I appreciated your words.

    I have been bitter. Martin Luther King Jr. said that change is more likely to come when we get angry more so than if we are merely unhappy.

    Anger does have its purpose, but at the same time, it doesn't help the surgeon to get angry at the tumor, you know?

    I can become very angry yet at the base, when all is said and done, it's best to be happy as fuck.

    To not grant the problems the power to take you away from bliss.

    Going off antijock's words on resilience, if we can bounce back from anything, confident in our own ability to stand on our two feet and tower over that which befalls...then we're gonna have some fucking great deep smile lines in our old aged faces.

    Fuckin better.
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    May 12, 2016 4:26 PM GMT
    I have a cupful of bitterness in my body that I use often to motivate me to work harder, reach farther, last longer.
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    May 12, 2016 6:09 PM GMT
    I am not bitter, annoyed at the excessive narcissism in out community. Add that to being called bitter when I state my opinion, and it's fine, like I always say, consider the sources and then react.
  • FirestormDavi...

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    May 12, 2016 6:30 PM GMT
    you guys are dropping narcissism here any examples? I focus on what I am interested in usually and may be unaware of a threat in our midst that has evaded my awareness

    instead of being bitter could we become what we want others to be? i understand the challenge.

    once i got this image of a 3d grid of thousands of cubes animating the gym i was heading back into from the sinks. there are a million possible challenges at every turn, but in the end, if you regard all as your friend and bring a chill party vibe to the atmosphere miracles can happen among the social group. i imagined each cube was made of glass, and at the prospect of all possible challenges represented in the glass, i said fuck it all, we're here to party. And i walked through the cubes, shattering many in my wake. Shatter the challenges, don't shatter the people that made them. Disable the social tool they utilized to make this negativity occur...the permanent solution is the diplomat's ass crack. The QB's gootch outpost...waiting for the ball to snap.

    i've seen you dude, trumpness...spewing some mean things about people who are mean. and I've done this, I don't think Hilary cares at all about our honor, she just sided with gay marriage she so vehemently opposed...for votes. and I've said mean things about her, but that doesn't make things better. It brings me down to her level. And instead of being out here being the man you wish you saw populating every horizon, there is bitterness spreading.

    once a film teacher called me narcissistic because i made a few trippy movies using myself as the subject. i didn't really know what that meant and looked it up. haha jeeze, some people just want to speak and communicate in a means beyond words...it's called artistry, cheif haha. I don't think that makes me excessively self centered or thinking I'm the shit. I know I'm the shit, that just comes from self awareness.

    So who draws the line between narcissism and self awareness? I don't get off to myself but i get off with myself haha. is that the definition of which you speak?

    i think something i'm working on that may line up with things you could work on is that we tend to jump in the ring and duke it out with fuckers. that is all fine and healthy but it's the angle, the spin, the intent. Is our intent to jackhammer everything in sight with a crowbar or perhaps set a launchpad for a future we'll love more...

    launchpad up yo

    And for the love of God, so the freedom troops have fought for so many days and nights can be ours...vote for Bernie. haha Peace
  • giodude

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    May 12, 2016 6:41 PM GMT
    I'm quite bitter, ingeneral and in terms of a 19 yea old

    Most of it comes from being gay. Not with the orientation itself, but with the "community" that comes with it. I would rather face a bunch of homophobes than a group of gay men. I really wish I wasn't gay.
  • FirestormDavi...

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    May 12, 2016 7:10 PM GMT
    giodude saidI'm quite bitter, ingeneral and in terms of a 19 yea old

    Most of it comes from being gay. Not with the orientation itself, but with the "community" that comes with it. I would rather face a bunch of homophobes than a group of gay men. I really wish I wasn't gay.


    dude you have to realize those aren't everyone, those are just the ones that are drawn to the very limited culture centers we have

    being young we don't have the greatest means to effect substantial change but that has to be the fire under our ass to make this place better for the next gen men's men so they don't know the perils we know.

    there are millions of guys like us who don't experience a particular kinship with those in the gay community of today and with more visibility to one another as is slowly happening, we will grow in strength...and one day we will command a power of relaxed bliss so strong that men who are even a little bit bi will thank god for this because they no longer need ot be involved with a woman, and they will be graced and celebrated for marrying another dude. the gay community is a reflection and consequence of the way gay began to be talked about again after corrupt world leaders buried it for two thousand years. The first personifications exploited the feminine guys and the discourse has yet to recover its balance in truth.

    The fact is the perception of gaydar if it is based in anything but actual communication of interest, is an illusion because mannerisms are not unique to the gay cream--many straight men are feminine. We confuse gender identity with love persuasion and only we can change this.

    allow everyone to stand in the potential of the highest good before you cast aside groups of people with your blanket statements.

    We have to clear up the discussion and bring forth culture that embodies our dimensions, to take our domain and make it our territory, and the only way we will know peace is if we do it while upholding the dignity and unique nature of the other incarnations in our midst. We are given a canvas that is not blank, but comes with preconceived notions. The best we can do is manifest with the most strength.

    Never allow your bitterness to cause a drop in your self worth because it is your goodness and the resilience of its survival that will make this place sick as fuck for our later years and most importantly the youths of those yet to be conceived.
  • badbug

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    May 12, 2016 8:07 PM GMT


    I am susceptible to bouts of rage but have always had a pretty good control on my emotions. Even when i was younger and an older boy was picking on me for the millionth time, so much so that i chased him down the street with an axe, i was clear headed enough to turn the axe around so i would only be able to strike him with the blunt part. I never caught him as he was older and faster than me but i am pretty sure i would of just hit him in the legs a bunch, that was the plan as i recall, with the blunt part. I think though, as i was reaching for the axe, the was no plan other than to attack him with an axe. Ahh to be 8 again.


    So i don't think of myself as a bitter person but i do have a rage bubbling under the surface that can come out at any time but i am good at controlling it because it's always been obvious to me, even at a young age, that i have to. You can't go around hitting people with axes, even the blunt part. icon_twisted.gif
  • leanandclean

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    May 13, 2016 12:14 AM GMT
    No, I have been far luckier in life than most.
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    May 13, 2016 1:30 AM GMT
    Tonight with my vegie lo mein, in the take out bag, I found a plastic wrapped tiny as fuck fortune cookie. What the fuck is this I said to myself. Do I look like I have tiny trumpish fingers? Smallest fortune cookie I ever spilled out of a bag.

    But then I thought to myself, ohhhhhh, now I get it. Nothing to be bitter about: It's a small fortune cookie. I've just come into a small fortune. Which made me laugh. Much more fun than being upset over a stupid fucking cookie which as it turns out held this message (I shit you not):

    "In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true either is true or becomes true."

    & on the back is says: Learn Chinese - Sugar (táng)
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    May 13, 2016 1:36 AM GMT
    I've heard that eating certain foods (can't remember which unfortunately) will make your cum bitter.
  • Latinman27

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    May 13, 2016 1:48 AM GMT
    FirestormDavid said
    giodude saidI'm quite bitter, ingeneral and in terms of a 19 yea old

    Most of it comes from being gay. Not with the orientation itself, but with the "community" that comes with it. I would rather face a bunch of homophobes than a group of gay men. I really wish I wasn't gay.


    dude you have to realize those aren't everyone, those are just the ones that are drawn to the very limited culture centers we have

    being young we don't have the greatest means to effect substantial change but that has to be the fire under our ass to make this place better for the next gen men's men so they don't know the perils we know.

    there are millions of guys like us who don't experience a particular kinship with those in the gay community of today and with more visibility to one another as is slowly happening, we will grow in strength...and one day we will command a power of relaxed bliss so strong that men who are even a little bit bi will thank god for this because they no longer need ot be involved with a woman, and they will be graced and celebrated for marrying another dude. the gay community is a reflection and consequence of the way gay began to be talked about again after corrupt world leaders buried it for two thousand years. The first personifications exploited the feminine guys and the discourse has yet to recover its balance in truth.

    The fact is the perception of gaydar if it is based in anything but actual communication of interest, is an illusion because mannerisms are not unique to the gay cream--many straight men are feminine. We confuse gender identity with love persuasion and only we can change this.

    allow everyone to stand in the potential of the highest good before you cast aside groups of people with your blanket statements.

    We have to clear up the discussion and bring forth culture that embodies our dimensions, to take our domain and make it our territory, and the only way we will know peace is if we do it while upholding the dignity and unique nature of the other incarnations in our midst. We are given a canvas that is not blank, but comes with preconceived notions. The best we can do is manifest with the most strength.

    Never allow your bitterness to cause a drop in your self worth because it is your goodness and the resilience of its survival that will make this place sick as fuck for our later years and most importantly the youths of those yet to be conceived.
    Nobody cares.Go eat some shit.
  • FirestormDavi...

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    May 13, 2016 2:22 AM GMT
    leanandclean awesome to hear of someone so grateful

    hahaha the fortune cookie story was funny. that's a pretty profound message too that it brought ya.

    reminds me of how when people decide they're going to believe something, they only see what adds evidence for that belief and conveniently don't see anything else. take this latin man for instance. Ive said about six times that I've never eaten shit but he loves talking shit from his mouth. Tell me Latin man, how can you talk shit if you've never eaten it? I think you are the only one here who has, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about. You're probably going to die very soon because you should know that only amateur porn participants can eat shit with no health consequences.

    watching a dude take a thick train of a dump is the best, show some damn fucking respect haha...you lil twerp.

    bitter cum. oh shit dude that is some dangerous projectile. in the eye especially.

    you know what makes your cum sweeter? watching shit porn ;)
  • Latinman27

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    May 13, 2016 3:28 AM GMT
    FirestormDavid saidleanandclean awesome to hear of someone so grateful

    hahaha the fortune cookie story was funny. that's a pretty profound message too that it brought ya.

    reminds me of how when people decide they're going to believe something, they only see what adds evidence for that belief and conveniently don't see anything else. take this latin man for instance. Ive said about six times that I've never eaten shit but he loves talking shit from his mouth. Tell me Latin man, how can you talk shit if you've never eaten it? I think you are the only one here who has, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about. You're probably going to die very soon because you should know that only amateur porn participants can eat shit with no health consequences.

    watching a dude take a thick train of a dump is the best, show some damn fucking respect haha...you lil twerp.

    bitter cum. oh shit dude that is some dangerous projectile. in the eye especially.

    you know what makes your cum sweeter? watching shit porn ;)
    Yawn.You are pathetic,disgusting and a total loser.And obviously not worth my time.Night shit eater.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • FirestormDavi...

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    May 13, 2016 3:43 AM GMT
    you shouldn't think of yourself that way. if you do not command respect from others, your communication towards me seems an inevitable consequence. you'll not get respect by throwing words into a keyboard that are of ill intent, that is as good as hitting yo self. stop hitting yourself. stop hitting yourself. what you put out you'll get back so watch it ad to the party. if you're going to roast someone mix it up otherwise you just sound like a parrot who can't respond with an argument because you got nothing on me. King Kong DID have something on Denzel though. The character zell portrayed was a pretty bad guy. King Kong was inocent, therefor what King Kong has on zell is that he didn't deserve to die. You don't deserve to die for your words, but unless you're going ot get roast funny, you also don't deserve any level ups in the after life after parties for them.

    it's a matter of how good are you? live up to the word man in your screen name and treat others with the respect that is rightful to them as any of your rights are to you.

  • roadbikeRob

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    May 14, 2016 8:03 PM GMT
    I do get thoroughly disgusted with life at times and I harbor some major regrets but I don't think that I am a bitter person. However there are some on here that would strongly disagree with me because they consider me bitter.
  • giodude

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    May 14, 2016 9:27 PM GMT
    FirestormDavid said
    giodude saidI'm quite bitter, ingeneral and in terms of a 19 yea old

    Most of it comes from being gay. Not with the orientation itself, but with the "community" that comes with it. I would rather face a bunch of homophobes than a group of gay men. I really wish I wasn't gay.


    dude you have to realize those aren't everyone, those are just the ones that are drawn to the very limited culture centers we have

    being young we don't have the greatest means to effect substantial change but that has to be the fire under our ass to make this place better for the next gen men's men so they don't know the perils we know.

    there are millions of guys like us who don't experience a particular kinship with those in the gay community of today and with more visibility to one another as is slowly happening, we will grow in strength...and one day we will command a power of relaxed bliss so strong that men who are even a little bit bi will thank god for this because they no longer need ot be involved with a woman, and they will be graced and celebrated for marrying another dude. the gay community is a reflection and consequence of the way gay began to be talked about again after corrupt world leaders buried it for two thousand years. The first personifications exploited the feminine guys and the discourse has yet to recover its balance in truth.

    The fact is the perception of gaydar if it is based in anything but actual communication of interest, is an illusion because mannerisms are not unique to the gay cream--many straight men are feminine. We confuse gender identity with love persuasion and only we can change this.

    allow everyone to stand in the potential of the highest good before you cast aside groups of people with your blanket statements.

    We have to clear up the discussion and bring forth culture that embodies our dimensions, to take our domain and make it our territory, and the only way we will know peace is if we do it while upholding the dignity and unique nature of the other incarnations in our midst. We are given a canvas that is not blank, but comes with preconceived notions. The best we can do is manifest with the most strength.

    Never allow your bitterness to cause a drop in your self worth because it is your goodness and the resilience of its survival that will make this place sick as fuck for our later years and most importantly the youths of those yet to be conceived.


    I've read your posts I am not a "guy like you" at all, in any way. I don't want a "woodsman's musk at dawn". I'm not masculine, neither am I feminine. I'm just me, and I have a sense of self-worth. What I'm disdainful of is the objectification of people and shallowness of the gay community, not of people who don't conform to rigid gender profiles.
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    May 14, 2016 10:37 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidI don't think that I am a bitter person. However there are some on here that would strongly disagree with me because they consider me bitter.

    There's a difference between sour and bitter.
  • Fireworkz

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    May 14, 2016 10:49 PM GMT
    To OP what are you bitter about? Life in general?

    I can get bitter about relationships and gay dating. When this happens I do something to clear it. I meditate, get some coaching or do something that resets my perspective.

    For me bitterness is a wake up call to do something different or change the way I see things.