Texas Superintendent Says Obama Directive on Transgender Students 'Going Straight to the Shredder'

  • metta

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    May 13, 2016 6:37 PM GMT
    Texas Superintendent Says Obama Directive on Transgender Students 'Going Straight to the Shredder'


    Historic Announcement by Obama Administration to Protect Transgender Students Dismissed by Administrator

    Superintendent Dr. Rodney Cavness of the Port Neches-Groves Independent School District

    "I got news for President Barack Obama. He ain't my President and he can't tell me what to do," Cavness told Steele. "That letter is going straight to the paper shredder."

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/texas_superintendent_says_obama_directive_on_transgender_students_going_straight_to_the_shredder

    Superintendent's Office - 409-722-4244
    Dr. Rodney Cavness, Superintendent, Ext. 1722
    http://png.schoolfusion.us/modules/cms/pages.phtml?sessionid=138999cd937a3948cd7dbb5f8864f4fa&t=4eb1866f7ae93ee1e88c6d01cb73bd7c&pageid=43421&



    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-rodney-cavness-58865517


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    May 13, 2016 7:29 PM GMT

    Lets just hope everyone is in agreement on this one icon_lol.gif


    Texas GOP to debate secession on convention floor
    http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Texas-GOP-to-debate-secession-on-convention-floor-7462082.php?cmpid=fb-desktop


    Delegates at state convention for the Republican Party of Texas will have a chance to vote on Texas secession, after a platform item calling for independence passed a special committee on Wednesday morning. It is not expected to pass, but represents a substantial achievement for proponents of a Lone Star nation.

    "It's going to be available for delegates to debate and vote on Friday during the convention," she said. "This is pretty big. This is really pretty huge."

    Most party leaders have firmly distanced themselves from the secession talk, and the proposal to hold a statewide vote on leaving Uncle Sam will most likely by swiftly shot down by the assembly of delegates.
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    May 13, 2016 7:33 PM GMT
    Cut school funding? Great, the state of Texas plans on a population of 6 grade adults, secede already! icon_redface.gif



    Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick: We'll Give Up Federal Funds Over LGBT Policy
    http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-LGBT-Rights/2016/05/13/id/728716/


    Texas' lieutenant governor said Friday that the state is prepared to forfeit billions of federal dollars in public school funding in defiance of an Obama administration directive requiring schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms consistent with their chosen gender identity.

    The new directive is expected to worsen tensions between Republican-led statehouses and the federal government over divisive social issues. It clarifies expectations for districts receiving federal school funds, which Texas' powerful Republican lieutenant governor argues the state's 5.2 million public school students can now do without.

    "We will not be blackmailed by the president's 30 pieces of silver," Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said. "The people of Texas and the Legislature will find a way to find as much of that money as we can if we are forced to."

    Patrick said Texas currently receives about $10 billion in federal education funding. He didn't say how that money would be replaced, and his remarks on Friday came only moments after more than half the state's 1,200 school districts lost a major lawsuit that claimed Texas unconstitutionally underfunds public schools


  • metta

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    May 14, 2016 12:04 AM GMT
    I'm all for them leaving but I expect them to pay the US for their assets. We are not going to just give it to them. And then I want that money used to pay down our debt.
  • metta

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    May 14, 2016 2:19 AM GMT
    New Obamacare Rule Protects Transgender Patients

    The Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule under Obamacare on Friday that prohibits denying health care or health coverage on the basis of gender identity.


    https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/new-obamacare-rule-protects-transgender-patients
  • tazzari

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    May 14, 2016 2:50 AM GMT
    He ain't my President

    Oh yes he is, twice elected. Your contempt for democracy is clear. (Leaving aside the interesting question of whether a superindendent who thinks "ain't" is good English has any business being a superintendent... )

    and he can't tell me what to do

    Perhaps not, but he can recommend, which this is, and the courts can enforce equal protection, which they will.

    Crawl back under your stone.
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    May 14, 2016 5:19 PM GMT
    metta saidI'm all for them leaving but I expect them to pay the US for their assets. We are not going to just give it to them. And then I want that money used to pay down our debt.


    Privately held assets do not belong to the federal government so there is no need to "pay" for them.

    Joining the Union was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.

    If Texas seceded the resulting sovereign state would be about the size of Germany. I wouldn't worry, Texas would do just fine.

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    May 14, 2016 5:33 PM GMT
    ELNathB saidCut school funding? Great, the state of Texas plans on a population of 6 grade adults, secede already! icon_redface.gif



    Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick: We'll Give Up Federal Funds Over LGBT Policy
    http://www.newsmax.com/US/US-LGBT-Rights/2016/05/13/id/728716/


    Texas' lieutenant governor said Friday that the state is prepared to forfeit billions of federal dollars in public school funding in defiance of an Obama administration directive requiring schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms consistent with their chosen gender identity.

    The new directive is expected to worsen tensions between Republican-led statehouses and the federal government over divisive social issues. It clarifies expectations for districts receiving federal school funds, which Texas' powerful Republican lieutenant governor argues the state's 5.2 million public school students can now do without.

    "We will not be blackmailed by the president's 30 pieces of silver," Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said. "The people of Texas and the Legislature will find a way to find as much of that money as we can if we are forced to."

    Patrick said Texas currently receives about $10 billion in federal education funding. He didn't say how that money would be replaced, and his remarks on Friday came only moments after more than half the state's 1,200 school districts lost a major lawsuit that claimed Texas unconstitutionally underfunds public schools


    How about federal transportation funding for all their gigantic superhighways and arterial roads, how are they going to fund those expensive bad boys if they secedeicon_question.gificon_idea.gif
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    May 15, 2016 11:49 PM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    metta saidI'm all for them leaving but I expect them to pay the US for their assets. We are not going to just give it to them. And then I want that money used to pay down our debt.


    Privately held assets do not belong to the federal government so there is no need to "pay" for them.

    Joining the Union was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.

    If Texas seceded the resulting sovereign state would be about the size of Germany. I wouldn't worry, Texas would do just fine.



    What an interesting and completely batshit opinion. We should all just re-litigate the Civil War now, shall we?
  • FRE0

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    May 16, 2016 12:08 AM GMT
    Suppose there is a female to male transgender student who appears truly masculine. Suppose he enters a female public convenience in accordance with school regulations. How would the girls feel about that? I wonder whether that possibility has been given due consideration.
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    May 16, 2016 12:17 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    What an interesting and completely batshit opinion. We should all just re-litigate the Civil War now, shall we?

    That's exactly what a lot of Texans and other Southerners DO want. "The South shall rise again!"

    And it's worse with Texans, who had their own independent republic for several years before statehood. Their national flag became their state flag, hence the "Lone Star State". They've never accepted the fact that they aren't still independent. Therefore you get school superintendents who defy the President on matters of Federal school funding mandates, a decision which is far above his own pay level.

    I've been saying for some time to let them have their independence back. They've had a poor concept of cooperative American citizenship and Federalism all along, anyway. No Texas is better than a faithless, defiant & disloyal Texas, in my view.
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    May 16, 2016 1:01 AM GMT
    FRE0 saidSuppose there is a female to male transgender student who appears truly masculine. Suppose he enters a female public convenience in accordance with school regulations. How would the girls feel about that? I wonder whether that possibility has been given due consideration.



    you mean like this guy? those people in the south are so stupid they would never be able to tell the difference icon_rolleyes.gif


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  • Triggerman

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    May 16, 2016 1:29 AM GMT
    If I remember correctly, Texas, which was in massive debt following a few wars with Mexico, was desperate to become a part of the US. They gave up parts of Oklahoma and Nebraska and New Mexico maybe Utah. The US was dubious and said, we are not sure about you. Texas was desperate, bankrupt and agreed to give up land. The Nation of Texas lasted only a few years before they came to the US with tail between knees and said OK, we will give stuff up. Let us join. Unlike California, my state, which was abundantly rich and could dictate the terms to the US when we joined the Union. When the Union said we would be too big, we said take a hike. Divide in half, not going to happen. We stood our ground and became the single greatest state in the Union. Watch a movie? By an iPhone?
  • Triggerman

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    May 16, 2016 1:40 AM GMT
    What do you do if a high school boy says he is transgendered? Intact, does not change his dress at all, but says, I am transgendered? I have a ton of transgendered friends. I get it. I see the problems they go through. But how can you stop, under these new rules, some hs kid that wants to push the boundaries, call himself trans and shower with female students? Not something I would do but I went to HS with guys that would do that. "I am trans, I want to shower with hs girls" How do you stop that?

  • Allen

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    May 16, 2016 6:52 AM GMT
    desertmuscl said
    metta saidI'm all for them leaving but I expect them to pay the US for their assets. We are not going to just give it to them. And then I want that money used to pay down our debt.


    ...

    Joining the Union was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.

    ...



    False. It is against the law. Over 600,000 Americans died making that so.

    I would, however, advocate amending out Constitution to allow such a thing. I think people should have the right of self-determination. And if the people of Texas don't feel strongly American enough that they want to secede and form their own country, then I prefer they do so.

    And if we make that amendment, I'd also like to see a provision that let's the country as a whole vote in a referendum to kick out a state who doesn't deserve to be among the United States of AMERICA. And I'd vote to kick out Texas, whether their voters voted to secede or not.
  • WrestlerBoy

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    May 16, 2016 1:04 PM GMT
    Allen said
    desertmuscl said
    metta saidI'm all for them leaving but I expect them to pay the US for their assets. We are not going to just give it to them. And then I want that money used to pay down our debt.


    ...

    Joining the Union was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option.

    ...



    False. It is against the law. Over 600,000 Americans died making that so.

    I would, however, advocate amending out Constitution to allow such a thing. I think people should have the right of self-determination. And if the people of Texas don't feel strongly American enough that they want to secede and form their own country, then I prefer they do so.

    And if we make that amendment, I'd also like to see a provision that let's the country as a whole vote in a referendum to kick out a state who doesn't deserve to be among the United States of AMERICA. And I'd vote to kick out Texas, whether their voters voted to secede or not.


    +1
    And this is why I stopped contributing here, as we have so many "know-nothings" who think they could all "be lawyers if they wanted to be."

    Texas v White (74 U.S. 700) holds that the federal Constitution does not permit States to secede "unilaterally". It is, therefore, "against the law."

    However...."revolution" of a state, or states, IS a right guaranteed by the Texas Constitution (as it is by other "radical" states...such as New Hampshire), and "revolution" (or the guaranteed "state" constitutional right) as opposed to "secession", the federal Constitution is dumb on.
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    May 16, 2016 1:29 PM GMT
    Welcome to the modern world - where the duly and legally elected leader of the country can be ignored because *you* think you actually have any say in his authority.

    "I got news for President Barack Obama. He ain't my President and he can't tell me what to do," Cavness told Steele. "That letter is going straight to the paper shredder."

    Well, a) he *is* your President, whether you like it or not, and b) You're the school superintendent, and you use *ain't*? No wonder education is in such bad shape in Texas.

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    May 16, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
    Doctor9 saidWelcome to the modern world - where the duly and legally elected leader of the country can be ignored because *you* think you actually have any say in his authority.

    "I got news for President Barack Obama. He ain't my President and he can't tell me what to do," Cavness told Steele. "That letter is going straight to the paper shredder."

    Well, a) he *is* your President, whether you like it or not, and b) You're the school superintendent, and you use *ain't*? No wonder education is in such bad shape in Texas.



    So, when President Trump requires all LGBT peoples to line up for registration and reeducation, you'll happily stand in line...
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    Doctor9 saidWelcome to the modern world - where the duly and legally elected leader of the country can be ignored because *you* think you actually have any say in his authority.

    "I got news for President Barack Obama. He ain't my President and he can't tell me what to do," Cavness told Steele. "That letter is going straight to the paper shredder."

    Well, a) he *is* your President, whether you like it or not, and b) You're the school superintendent, and you use *ain't*? No wonder education is in such bad shape in Texas.

    I wonder if that superintendent could tell that to a judge at any legal proceeding he might be required to attend. Whether regarding himself or as a witness in some case?

    "You ain't my judge and you can't tell me what to do." Or if the superintendent gets stopped for a traffic infraction, and the police ask him for his driver's license or to step out of the car.

    "You ain't my police and you can't tell me what to do."

    I think we all can imagine how these scenarios would turn out. Along with dozens of others like them. Methinks this guy might have some problem with authority figures. Or maybe especially authority figures of the wrong skin color and political party.

    A fine civic example for the students in his school system. If I was teaching US government to high school seniors again how would I explain that to them?
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    ELNathB said
    FRE0 saidSuppose there is a female to male transgender student who appears truly masculine. Suppose he enters a female public convenience in accordance with school regulations. How would the girls feel about that? I wonder whether that possibility has been given due consideration.



    you mean like this guy? those people in the south are so stupid they would never be able to tell the difference icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Off topic but: How do you believe you're a man when you have two huge, ugly scars on your chest screaming at you everyday that you are not what you think you are or that you have to be on hormone therapy until the day you die or your body will revert to its true self?
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    May 16, 2016 4:23 PM GMT
    Princeton Professor Says Transgenderism is not ‘Scientific’ but ‘Superstitious Belief’

    http://www.youngcons.com/princeton-professor-says-transgenderism-is-not-scientific-but-superstitious-belief/
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    May 16, 2016 4:26 PM GMT
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    Doctor9 saidWelcome to the modern world - where the duly and legally elected leader of the country can be ignored because *you* think you actually have any say in his authority.

    "I got news for President Barack Obama. He ain't my President and he can't tell me what to do," Cavness told Steele. "That letter is going straight to the paper shredder."

    Well, a) he *is* your President, whether you like it or not, and b) You're the school superintendent, and you use *ain't*? No wonder education is in such bad shape in Texas.

    I wonder if that superintendent could tell that to a judge at any legal proceeding he might be required to attend. Whether regarding himself or as a witness in some case?

    "You ain't my judge and you can't tell me what to do." Or if the superintendent gets stopped for a traffic infraction, and the police ask him for his driver's license or to step out of the car.

    "You ain't my police and you can't tell me what to do."

    I think we all can imagine how these scenarios would turn out. Along with dozens of others like them. Methinks this guy might have some problem with authority figures. Or maybe especially authority figures of the wrong skin color and political party.

    A fine civic example for the students in his school system. If I was teaching US government to high school seniors again how would I explain that to them?


    It is not too much different than when Obama started to make decisions based on how the non-voters "would" have voted in 2012- had they chosen to actually show up at the polls.

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    May 16, 2016 5:18 PM GMT
    Obama has really diminished his presidency with lame-brained moves like this. Sending threatening letters to the states on a silly issue involving who gets to use public bathrooms? Too funny. No wonder the Senate feels free to kick him in the balls on more important matters like the vacant SCOTUS seat.
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    May 16, 2016 6:30 PM GMT
    ^+1! The emotionalism of most of these comments aside, the TX superintendent has a good legal argument, and not only on federalism grounds. If ever there was a case of de minimis non curat lex ("the law does not concern itself with trifles"), this is it. Butt out, Obama, and take your divisive pandering elsewhere.
    As for TX's secession plans, that's just plain crazy talk.