Inside the GOP effort to draft an independent candidate to derail Trump

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    May 15, 2016 12:30 PM GMT
    It seems the crew of the sinking ship GOP want to be seen at least trying to save it.

    A band of exasperated Republicans — including 2012 presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a handful of veteran consultants and members of the conservative intelligentsia — is actively plotting to draft an independent presidential candidate who could keep Donald Trump from the White House.

    These GOP figures are commissioning private polling, lining up major funding sources­ and courting potential contenders, according to interviews with more than a dozen Republicans involved in the discussions. The effort has been sporadic all spring but has intensified significantly in the 10 days since Trump effectively locked up the Republican nomination.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-gop-effort-to-draft-an-independent-candidate-to-derail-trump/2016/05/14/1b04682e-1877-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_thirdparty-1248pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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    May 15, 2016 2:30 PM GMT
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    Well, here's a bit from the article that I hadn't considered but I don't think it would pan out today:

    One related objective is to prevent both Clinton and Trump from clinching a majority in the electoral college and thus throwing the presidential election to the House of Representatives, under the provision of the 12th Amendment of the Constitution. This scenario played out in 1824


    But to the less tossed to fate measure of submitting a late candidate to the electorate, I don't even know how that would play other than further fracturing.

    Even on the notion of a late Biden play should Clinton be indicted, even though I've always liked Biden, even though I'd have picked him over her were those my choices, even though I like Bernie better but I'd be satisfied enough with Biden as I would Clinton (assuming her email "innocence" or simple stupidity) were either to win the Democratic side of things, I'm not sure how I'd vote in the general. Haven't really mulled that over yet to know how I'd feel.

    I wouldn't be not voting for Biden because of his record. I'd feel badly about not voting for him because I like him. And I'd want to defeat Trump. But I don't know that I could vote for my party's last minute shenanigan when Bernie--who I like--was there the whole time. I wouldn't fill in Alfred E. Neuman as a protest against a Biden, but I might leave that space blank because even though what I'd be voting against would remain pure (my antiTrump), I might then feel my vote was being coerced and thereby corrupted. I generally protest that. I keep Alfred for when I don't like my only choice. But since I like that choice but not the process I might just blank it. I don't know.

    Where's freedom without free will? I'd imagine even a GOPer, at least one with the integrity to lose on fair ground, would feel similarly about their party's presented choices. Given all that, it seems to me that their ringmaster trumps their ringer.
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    May 16, 2016 4:13 PM GMT
    TRUMP will win! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYicon_biggrin.gificon_wink.gif
  • Destinharbor

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    May 16, 2016 4:52 PM GMT
    The thing that is so funny about all the handwringing by the GOP insiders is that it is their batshit scorched earth policies that gave rise to the stupid wing of the party who now support someone who in some ways is more moderate than the establishment. I just hope they all lose and the Dems retake the House, Senate, and hold the Pres. I don't see it happening but I can have fun watching them burn in hell. Obama seems to be having some fun with it all right now.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 16, 2016 5:27 PM GMT
    The only thing this so-called 3rd Party attempt has done (which will never happen anyway) is that it has succeeded in removing the last drop of dignity Mitt Romney had.

    Head of the GOP, Reince Priebus, called this a "Suicide Mission"...'Nuff said
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    May 16, 2016 5:41 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThe thing that is so funny about all the handwringing by the GOP insiders is that it is their batshit scorched earth policies that gave rise to the stupid wing of the party who now support someone who in some ways is more moderate than the establishment. I just hope they all lose and the Dems retake the House, Senate, and hold the Pres. I don't see it happening but I can have fun watching them burn in hell. Obama seems to be having some fun with it all right now.

    Some political cartoonists are having fun portraying Trump as Frankenstein's monster, that its creator cannot control. Well Trump's certainly the Republican Party's monstrous creation.

    It couldn't happen to nicer, kinder, more generous and well-meaning people, could it?