Pride, and your town's/city's chemistry

  • Wendigo9

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    May 16, 2016 10:18 PM GMT
    Toronto, New York, San Francisco, Miami, etc. . . seems like any/all tourist based cities enjoy pride, but where I live, well. . . it's not as LGBT friendly despite Brock U's trying to change that.

    Point to this, how does your town/city view pride? and if negatively like most of Niagara, any ideas on where it can be fun.

    Last summer I went to an event called "pride in the park" and saw a bad take on Wizard of Oz, trannies worse than a Marylin Manson video, indecent public exposure, and kids 10 and younger questioning sexuality ("is that a man or woman?"). Police were on site, but ignored all complaints about it.

    I don't know what to think of pride anymore after what I saw, having their fun while breaking various laws. . . please tell me pride isn't about public orgies and messing up kids minds. Gay as I am, trannies partying and shouting "gay love" makes me feel aweful, embarrassed, and ashamed to seen/labeled that way.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 16, 2016 10:24 PM GMT
    It is because of those garish, annoying trannies that many folks in St Catherines, Welland, and the surrounding Niagara Region across the border from me still have a negative perception of gay men. I thought that Canadian society's acceptance of gays and lesbians would have a strong influence on the Niagara Region but apparently your home region is stubbornly hanging onto old prejudices.
  • badbug

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    May 16, 2016 10:42 PM GMT


    You guys should form your own hate group.







  • Fireworkz

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    May 16, 2016 10:43 PM GMT
    It's not usually the trannies that give Pride a bad name
    It's the half or fully naked guys almost having sex.

    But then it depends on what your philosophy of Pride is about
    For some it's breaking the stereotypes and boundaries of how society thinks people should act.

    For some it's about being proud of our community. I think Pride should reflect the state of gay rights in the vicinity. In eastern europe it is a struggle just to have a pride unthreatened by violenece.

    I've been to Pride in Barcelona and Sitges where it is pretty fun there are loads of straight people with children present and everyone is accepting. It was less politically charged and more about having fun and celebrating all of gay culture. There were plenty of trannies and no one had a problem with it.

    I'm not really a fan of this uncle tom philosophy that gays need to police themselves and appear straight so as not to upset straight people but also I think the message of Pride is being proud of who you are and accepting. I don't think that means flouting indecency laws though.


    I don't go to London Pride because the after party is a drunken mess, but I do go to Brighton Pride (a popular town on the UK coast an hour from London) which is more of a party in the park. The straight population is generally very supportive and Pride in Brighton is actually for everyone. Most businesses are flying the flag.
  • Wendigo9

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    May 16, 2016 10:56 PM GMT
    badbug said
    You guys should form your own hate group.

    I did say "I don't know what to think of pride anymore" in a non-hateful manner, just hang my head sadly and facepalm.
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    May 17, 2016 3:50 AM GMT
    I've been in PDX during "pride" a few times. It's pretty much all about the drag queens. I can't imagine how they could set it up to make people hate and disrespect us more than this.
  • Allen

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    May 17, 2016 6:58 AM GMT
    badbug said

    You guys should form your own hate group.



    Couldn't agree more.
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    May 17, 2016 1:03 PM GMT
    Fireworkz saidIt's not usually the trannies that give Pride a bad name
    It's the half or fully naked guys almost having sex.

    But then it depends on what your philosophy of Pride is about
    For some it's breaking the stereotypes and boundaries of how society thinks people should act.

    For some it's about being proud of our community. I think Pride should reflect the state of gay rights in the vicinity. In eastern europe it is a struggle just to have a pride unthreatened by violenece.

    I've been to Pride in Barcelona and Sitges where it is pretty fun there are loads of straight people with children present and everyone is accepting. It was less politically charged and more about having fun and celebrating all of gay culture. There were plenty of trannies and no one had a problem with it.

    I'm not really a fan of this uncle tom philosophy that gays need to police themselves and appear straight so as not to upset straight people but also I think the message of Pride is being proud of who you are and accepting. I don't think that means flouting indecency laws though.


    I don't go to London Pride because the after party is a drunken mess, but I do go to Brighton Pride (a popular town on the UK coast an hour from London) which is more of a party in the park. The straight population is generally very supportive and Pride in Brighton is actually for everyone. Most businesses are flying the flag.


    Sex in public isn't acceptable from straight people, shouldn't be acceptable for LGBT either. It's not about appearing straight, it's what is acceptable in public vs the privacy of a club or home.

    People should be free to be who they are. If you don't want "them" being representative of the Gay/Bi "norm/stereotype" then stop sitting on the sidelines or not even going, and join the fucking parade. The more of you there are, the less of "them," by proportion.

    Show the world that there are fit, healthy, well dressed hotties in the Gay/Bi club.

    As far as how Indianapolis does receives Pride week, June 4th - June 11th, http://www.circlecityinpride.org/week/ I've only been to the last one. There was a very small gathering of protesters, less than a dozen from what I recall. Kooks basically.

    It was packed the day my boyfriend and I went. Wasn't there for the parade. There were some guys in jocks, underwear, or speedos but it was a small minority.

    I volunteered to work 2 days at this years events. Doing registration for the pet pride parade, and helping setup for the main day.
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    May 17, 2016 3:51 PM GMT
    So there are big, shiny major enterprises and at the same time small, naive new businesses.

    So there are mayor pride events in big cities and, small, crappy suburban demonstrations like the one you describe.

    So wwhile the entertainment quality may vary wildly, it's important to remember that it ultimately is about the freedom to organize and demonstrate.

    Let the crappy events afford some time to improve over the years.

    And should some of them choose the wrong path (as in becoming something unethical or immoral) then let them fail
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    May 19, 2016 1:42 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidI've been in PDX during "pride" a few times. It's pretty much all about the drag queens. I can't imagine how they could set it up to make people hate and disrespect us more than this.


    In PDX?
    There's not a lot of hate toward us in Portland and a million drag queens aren't going to change that.