Gay SCOTUS Marriage Plaintiffs Denied Cemetery Headstone by Louisville Archdiocese

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    May 18, 2016 1:22 AM GMT
    Gay SCOTUS Marriage Plaintiffs Denied Cemetery Headstone by Louisville Archdiocese


    http://www.wdrb.com/story/31988184/louisville-gay-couple-denied-a-cemetery-headstone-by-archdiocese

    http://www.towleroad.com/2016/05/gay-couple-headstone/
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    May 18, 2016 4:03 AM GMT
    It's this type of assholery on the part of people with agendas that turn reasonable people off. They know the Catholic Church's stand on marriage yet they chose to buy a plot in a Catholic cemetery and then slap the Church in the face by proposing a tombstone celebrating Supreme Court's decision on gay marriage and then feign indignation when the design is rejected. Fuck 'em they could have bought a plot in any secular cemetery. They're just looking for notoriety.
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    May 21, 2016 10:32 PM GMT
    Not4u saidIt's this type of assholery on the part of people with agendas that turn reasonable people off. They know the Catholic Church's stand on marriage yet they chose to buy a plot in a Catholic cemetery and then slap the Church in the face by proposing a tombstone celebrating Supreme Court's decision on gay marriage and then feign indignation when the design is rejected. Fuck 'em they could have bought a plot in any secular cemetery. They're just looking for notoriety.


    I do appreciate the validity of the point you are making in your initial sentence as well as the limits of its validity. The most important response is "Galileo Galilei" and "Copernicus". The Church was wrong there initially, too; knew it was wrong for 400 years and 200 years respectively; and only in 1992 did the Pope issue a "mea culpa" for the Church's role.

    The Church is wrong about homosexuality, and therefore, since these two are Catholics—their church is wrong-headed and in error—they have as much right as any other Catholic to ask to be buried in a Catholic cemetery, and perhaps with a bit more moral authority than the Church's, since the Church does deserve the slap in the face, given the Church's teaching is wrong.
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    May 21, 2016 11:39 PM GMT
    The Church's teaching on homosexuality will never change.The Archdiocese should permit them to sell the plot if it is still empty.
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    May 22, 2016 12:21 AM GMT
    Sulla, the Church may in fact be wrong about homosexuality however it is perfectly within its right to make its rules about the property it owns. They may have bought a cemetery plot but like a condo there are property rules when you buy a condo and there are property rules when you buy a cemetery plot. Caveat emptor.

    Also, like the condo association analogy the Church isn't denying them the right to buy the property and live eternally there just denying them decorating the eternal condo against the building owners specifications.
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    May 22, 2016 2:48 AM GMT
    Not4u saidSulla, the Church may in fact be wrong about homosexuality however it is perfectly within its right to make its rules about the property it owns. They may have bought a cemetery plot but like a condo there are property rules when you buy a condo and there are property rules when you buy a cemetery plot. Caveat emptor.

    Also, like the condo association analogy the Church isn't denying them the right to buy the property and live eternally there just denying them decorating the eternal condo against the building owners specifications.


    What the Church may have a legal right to do is completely beside the point; morally and particularly intellectually the Church is in the wrong.

    (And, btw, for your analogy, condo rules are often excellent examples of idiocies, if you've ever had much occasion to examine many sets of them!)
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    May 22, 2016 2:59 AM GMT
    Sulla you might think the Church is wrong but thousands of years before you were born theyheld to the same teaching and when you are dust they will still have the same doctrine.
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    May 22, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
    Sulla said
    Not4u saidSulla, the Church may in fact be wrong about homosexuality however it is perfectly within its right to make its rules about the property it owns. They may have bought a cemetery plot but like a condo there are property rules when you buy a condo and there are property rules when you buy a cemetery plot. Caveat emptor.

    Also, like the condo association analogy the Church isn't denying them the right to buy the property and live eternally there just denying them decorating the eternal condo against the building owners specifications.


    What the Church may have a legal right to do is completely beside the point; morally and particularly intellectually the Church is in the wrong.

    (And, btw, for your analogy, condo rules are often excellent examples of idiocies, if you've ever had much occasion to examine many sets of them!)
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    It's really quite simple - If you find the rules idiotic then don't buy the condo or grave site.

    These two are extremely stupid or missing their fifteen minutes of fame as plaintiffs in one of the cases involved in last June’s historic marriage equality ruling by the Supreme Court. I'm thinking it's both.