A Jesus and Fishermen Disciples Found in Josephus Were Killed in Galilee Fighting the Romans

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    May 18, 2016 7:14 PM GMT
    A Jesus and Fishermen Disciples Found in Josephus Were Killed in Galilee Fighting the Romans

    Without Paul giving us much on Jesus and fishermen disciples, that which is written in the Gospels date to a) when they were revolting against Rome and b) after the Revolt was put down.


    January 67 to December 69 CE
    http://www.josephus.org/warChronologyIntro.htm (5: The Success of Vespasian--including winning the Battle of Galilee)


    Mark does not have to be written before January 67.


    The Gospel idea of Jesus and fishermen disciples correspond to a historical Jesus and fishermen disciples who also wanted a Jewish kingdom not a Roman kingdom.


    Is the Gospel of Jesus and fishermen disciples a peaceful way (peace propaganda by Rome) of describing a battle-violent Jesus and fishermen disciples?
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    May 23, 2016 5:55 AM GMT
    Is the Gospel of Jesus and fishermen disciples a peaceful way (peace propaganda by Rome) of describing a battle-violent Jesus and fishermen disciples?


    Jerusalem was given a crushing defeat, a devastating defeat. They not only lost the war but lost their religion, Temple Judaism. There were no heroes until the legend of Jesus and fishermen disciples was invented. No, the killed, bloated, stinking bodies from the losses of Jesus and his fishermen rebels at the battle upon the Sea of Galilee would be countered with legendary miracle of Jesus walking on the waters of the Sea of Galilee.

    This legend was written to lift the spirits and to give the defeated some heroes in a war they loss terribly.

    To do that Jesus and the fishermen disciples had to be moved back in time from a time of violent messianism to a time of relative peace between Jews and Romans, some decades earlier.

    Rome: They need a war hero? Give them Jesus; but, in the end, he is still killed by Rome. Give them a legend that runs aground. Make Jesus give them a ritual of defeat (cannibalism in Judaism is indicative of defeat); make Jesus give them a ritual that separates People from God (in Judaism, drinking blood causes their God to turn away his face--that they seek.) They seek but never will find with this legend.