Do you support Open Primaries?

  • metta

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    May 19, 2016 2:30 AM GMT




    Open Primaries

    #openprimaries #SupportOpenPrimaries #SupportDemocracy #democracy #USA #votingrights #vote

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  • metta

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    May 19, 2016 2:31 AM GMT
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    May 19, 2016 3:09 AM GMT
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  • tj85016

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    May 19, 2016 10:03 AM GMT
    the entire "delegate/super-delegate" system is a rigged crock of shit

    in addition, Debbie Whatshername-Schultz (DNC Chair) is nothing more than a prostitute and should resign
  • Svnw688

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    May 19, 2016 1:15 PM GMT
    Open primaries?

    No.
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    May 19, 2016 2:14 PM GMT
    No. Open primaries allow instigators, poseurs and provocateurs to create unnecessary trouble and disruption. Would I want outsiders to participate in my own family's decision-making?
  • metta

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    May 20, 2016 5:17 PM GMT
    The government should stop helping to fund primaries of the two parties unless they allow everyone to vote.
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    May 20, 2016 5:28 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidNo. Open primaries allow instigators, poseurs and provocateurs to create unnecessary trouble and disruption. Would I want outsiders to participate in my own family's decision-making?

    +1

    Otherwise when open it's not a Party primary, but a mini-general election.
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    May 20, 2016 5:52 PM GMT
    metta saidThe government should stop helping to fund primaries of the two parties unless they allow everyone to vote.


    Just because something has federal funding doesn't mean that everyone is eligible: rich people and welfare, for instance, well, aside from corporate welfare, of course.

    So the fairness is not necessarily judged on that end of it--for we would not say that it's unfair that the wealthy don't get welfare--but rather on the end of the mechanism of who gets funded. So it would be unfair if a poor black person got whatever appropriate welfare assistance but that a poor white person did not.

    Just as funding the welfare system doesn't open up eligibility to everyone, as there are other criteria to consider, nor does it in the public funding of candidacies. Just as your getting whatever tax breaks off your taxes in any particular year or whatever gifted rebate from the government doesn't mean that I get to walk through your front door to sit at your breakfast table uninvited. Right? You've still control over that.

    So the fairness would be determined by establishing the same rules for any candidate to get public funding, not by opening up that candidate's campaign to public access because of public funding.

    Outside of their own initiative or sense of commitment or even if by the nature of independents, there is nothing outside of their own inherency which prevents them from organizing, selecting candidates, running them for office and being eligible for their own public funding.

    We Democrats would not feel an urge to vote in your primary just because you get funding from our taxes.

    http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml#Eligibility
    Eligibility for Public Funds

    To be eligible for public funds, a Presidential candidate or a party convention committee must first submit a letter of agreement and a written certification in which the candidate or committee agrees to:
    •Spend public funds only for campaign-related expenses or, in the case of a party convention, for convention-related expenses;
    •Limit spending to amounts specified by the campaign finance law;
    •Keep records and, if requested, supply evidence of qualified expenses;
    •Cooperate with an audit of campaign or convention expenses;
    •Repay public funds, if necessary; and
    •Pay any civil penalties imposed by the FEC.

    Primary candidates must additionally certify that they have met the "threshold requirement" for eligibility by raising in excess of $5,000 in each of 20 states (see "Primary Matching Funds," above). A candidate may satisfy eligibility requirements and submit private contributions for matching payments any time after January 1 of the year before a Presidential general election. Actual payments are not made, however, until after January 1 of the Presidential election year.