Is it because of porn?

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    May 21, 2016 9:20 PM GMT
    Something I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?
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    May 21, 2016 9:22 PM GMT
    You can if you want. I prefer not to.
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    May 22, 2016 5:50 AM GMT
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Yup. The overwhelming broad cultural trend is that of the constant progress, improvement, etc. So, the role models are the people (real or mostly imaginary) who fit the bill described above. I doubt that this will change any time soon.

    Now, the guys who are smart enough to understand that the indoctrination out there is what it is: indoctrination, will adjust both their goals and their requirements to the respective situations of their lives and make the most out of it.

    The rest will end up being very frustrated and totally unhappy!

    SC
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    May 22, 2016 7:49 AM GMT
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Lives revolve around more than just sex. Are you saying gay men are defined by sex?
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    May 22, 2016 9:31 AM GMT
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Do you mean that straight people base their entire lives in their parents' sexual life so they don't watch porn? icon_rolleyes.gif

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    May 22, 2016 1:11 PM GMT
    Crisistunity said
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Do you mean that straight people base their entire lives in their parents' sexual life so they don't watch porn? icon_rolleyes.gif



    I'm actually NOT saying anything. I'm asking a question that has been on my mind awhile. Of course straight people watch porn. BUT in addition to the fantasy of porn, straight people are surrounded by other real life straight people, most of whom are average. My question is since there are so few real life role models for gay men, do we accept the fantasy of porn as real?
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    May 22, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
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    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Lives revolve around more than just sex. Are you saying gay men are defined by sex?


    Good question. There is a lot more than sex in a porn video. And there is a lot more to gay men than sex. However, in porn, a good sex session solves every problem from weather to whatever.
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    May 22, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
    jimib said
    Crisistunity said
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Do you mean that straight people base their entire lives in their parents' sexual life so they don't watch porn? icon_rolleyes.gif



    I'm actually NOT saying anything. I'm asking a question that has been on my mind awhile. Of course straight people watch porn. BUT in addition to the fantasy of porn, straight people are surrounded by other real life straight people, most of whom are average. My question is since there are so few real life role models for gay men, do we accept the fantasy of porn as real?


    So what type of role models do gay people need? Being sexually attracted to and having sexual relationship with members of our own sex is the only thing that separates us from straight people.

    If I'm gay and want to be an engineer what does it matter if my role models are straight? What does being gay have anything to do with engineering? Or a banker, or a realtor, or an accountant, or any profession? Even straight guys can be paid enough to do gay porn.

    It's just not professions either. You don't have to trumpet your sexual orientation to role model any specific human behavior. A straight role model can be just as good a role model as a gay role model for any number of human characteristics - bravery, honestly, loyalty, trustworthiness, compassion, etc.
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    May 22, 2016 2:09 PM GMT
    The assumption that underlies the thesis is wrong: it assumes, wrongly, that all gay men are one-dimensional. Yes, perhaps some gay men are, but they're probably in the minority
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    May 22, 2016 2:53 PM GMT
    Vote trump, he seems to love dumb people.
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    May 22, 2016 3:43 PM GMT
    DOMINUS saidThe assumption that underlies the thesis is wrong: it assumes, wrongly, that all gay men are one-dimensional. Yes, perhaps some gay men are, but they're probably in the minority


    My question has to do with social mirrors. How the world around us gives us feedback on how to appropriate ourselves.
  • Crisistunity

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    May 22, 2016 4:56 PM GMT
    jimib said
    Crisistunity said
    jimib saidSomething I have been pondering lately. As gay/bi/other men we don't usually have regular real life role models. Our parents are usually straight. And nearly everyone we know(at least 86%) are straight. So perhaps all we have to base our lives on is the fantasy of porn. Every top has 7.5 inches that are always erect. Bottoms are always prepared for sex. No lube needed. Condoms if they are used, appear out of nowhere and disappear into nowhere. All bodies are enviable. Black men don't bottom and have garden hoses instead of penises.

    Are we constructing our lives based on the fantasy of porn?


    Do you mean that straight people base their entire lives in their parents' sexual life so they don't watch porn? icon_rolleyes.gif



    I'm actually NOT saying anything. I'm asking a question that has been on my mind awhile. Of course straight people watch porn. BUT in addition to the fantasy of porn, straight people are surrounded by other real life straight people, most of whom are average. My question is since there are so few real life role models for gay men, do we accept the fantasy of porn as real?


    Nope, we accept the reality of the straight people and consider it our own reality.

    That's why we demanded the right to marry, because our parents —this society based on marriage, really— serve us as an example of how life should be for everyone.

    The demonstrations were to have marriage equality, not to be fisted twice a month by a masked stallion.

    I guess I see things differently, since I've had gay role models around since a very young age (marriage equality was approved in Spain back when I was 17).

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    May 23, 2016 5:15 AM GMT
    OP smoking da kine.
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    May 23, 2016 6:12 AM GMT
    xrichx saidOP smoking da kine.

    Oh please, we all know that we look to porn for our role models.