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Hey Everyone,
So, here's the thing: I went into the doctor about a month ago because I was having some sexual woes, mostly pain during sex (unimportant) and it turns out I've got phimosis. Unfortunate. So, he told me I could get circumcised or try and stretch the skin on my own. I'm into quick fixes so, I figured I'd just get the circumcision. The operation is a week and a half away, and I'm getting more and more nervous with each passing day. Since the operation was a month away anyway, I decided I might try stretching the skin for kicks. I have been, and it's actually coming along quite nicely. Now I'm scheduled to have this surgery soon, and I'm A) petrified of the pain it's going to cause and B) afraid I'll miss my foreskin. What do you guys think? Would you go through with it? How do you feel about being cut/uncut?

UPDATE!
Thanks to everyone who gave me their insight on this topic, it's really helped a lot. So, after much consideration (and a personal revelation), I've decided to at least postpone the surgery. I feel like, if the stretching can work, I definitely need more time to explore that part of my body before I cut it off altogether. Thanks again, everyone! You've helped me greatly!

If surgery is unneccesary, don't do it.

You should post before and after pictures

ouch!

- David

Don't do it! If the skin is stretching, thats all you need. Keep the skin. I lost mine and want it back. Circumcision is barbaric.

I got circumcized when I was 5 or so. I still remember. Hurt like hell. Walked at 90 degrees for a couple of days.

If your having doubts, put it off, especially if you're having success at the stretching and think you may miss the foreskin. You won't ever get it back if it's snipped.

If you keep yourself clean, there is no reason to be circumcised. Unless your religion proscribes it.
Whatever you choose, good luck.

EricLA said

If your having doubts, put it off, especially if you're having success at the stretching and think you may miss the foreskin. You won't ever get it back if it's snipped.

Yea, what he said. If you're having success at stretching, then keep on doing that and postpone the surgery. If not, then go through with the surgery at a later date.

I am partially circumcised .. that is the foreskin still covers the glan most of the time so it looks uncut - but the frenulum is severed so it can pull all the way back. I think you can get circumcised and not have to remove all the foreskin -- I don't know if this is possible in your case. Anyway yeah, why not give the stretching a chance?

I don't care if other guys are uncut or not.

it dont matter to me if guy cut or uncut as long he clean

I'm circumcised and have never had any problems with it, but I don't know any different. There's one thing you need to remember though: You can never get it back. I'm not such a fan of foreskins, but if I were you, I'd be stretching it like a bastard!

I was circumcised as an adult and the pain really was minimal, was told to take a mixture of codeine and paracetamol, I did for about two days because I thought I should, but wasn't in any pain or discomfort, so I stopped.

Make sure you body is properly hydrated and your will recover really quickly, make sure too they use a kind of superglue rather than dissolving stitches and don't look at the pretty boys on RJ for a few days while you recover.

it looks better when it's cut, more fun to deal with it as I see it ... I dunno what u could miss in the foreskin. but at the end it's up to you, I assume that you've seen and played with cut dicks before .. so think about what you really want .

If you keep yourself clean, there is no reason to be circumcised. Unless your religion proscribes it.
Whatever you choose, good luck.


Not true! He's describing a problem that may become more serious. I'd try the stretching route first. If you are getting circumcised consult with more than one MD. Preferably those experienced in ADULT circumcision, it makes a big difference, no pun intended. The issue you have with your foreskin has nothing to do with cleanliness, it's how you were born. Just my 2 cents.
Jim

Do everything you can to avoid being cut - try steroid cream, or even a Y or Z plasty to widen the tip of the foreskin. There are plenty of other alternatives to sort out a phimotic foreskin other than circumcision. Heck, its rather Medieval Quakery - chopping something off rather than trying to sort out the problem.

I am in the opposite situation to you at the moment - I am looking for ways of getting my foreskin back! I miss my foreskin and hate being cut. So Im getting it back. Boo ya!

I agree with what most of the posters have said --

(a) get a second opinion with a doctor (presumably a urologist) who not only has experience with adult circumcisions, but also with phimosis and what alternatives to surgery there may be (and their rate of success). You may also want to examine the doctor's "predisposition" to circumcision and whether or not he can be objective (ie. some men of a certain generation and/or culture may not appreciate your need to want to keep your foreskin);

and (b) if you have ANY doubts, postpone the surgery. Don't feel pressured to get it unless you are aware of all of the facts and YOU have decided this is the best decision foe YOU.

Best of luck! Let us know what you decide.

There is normally no medical benefit to being cut. Like someone said if the skin streaching is doing the job, go with that. Heck maybe you and a BF can have some fun with it. Doing a permenant solution to such a problem that can be treated with a simple excercise (that, like I said could be fun in the right hands) is jumping the gun.

I don't know what it's like to be uncut, cince I was cut shortly after birth. (the thing that REALLY bugs me is that I didn't even live in a religious family!!!)

I hate not having choices in things.

Don't get the operation done unless there's a serious complication that requires it. Which I doubt there will be. (That's my two bits worth)

I'm in pain just thinking about it

I wouldn't worry about pain being an issue. That's what good drugs are for.

A few years back, I dealt with what many advanced lifters do: hemorrhoid surgery. It sucked. It hurt. It hurt like you wouldn't believe (I had it tightened, as well as removed the hemorrhoids.) Never believe a doctor when he says you might experience some mild discomfort. It REALLY hurt. There are more nerve endings per inch in your bottom than anywhere else. Nonetheless, I'm really glad I did the surgery. It fixed all the problems.

I've had root canals done that were 100% painless.

If you want the advantages of circumcision, then, don't let a little fear keep you from doing it.

It gets down to a personal choice that you're the only one who can make.

Lot of things in life aren't without a bit of pain, be it athletic endeavor, relationships, or surgery.

My friend, Sagi Kalev of Dallas, has a saying: pain is the feeling of weakness leaving your body.

Lots of gay folks remain dysfunctional across many parts of their lives because they don't understand how to walk into, through, and beyond, uncomfortable situations...whatever they might be.

Do not do it if the skin is stretching for you. I know someone that had it done and if he could undo it, he would. Keep stretching, and if it is working cancel the surgery. You can always have the surgery further down the road if you need to, but it can not be undone.

Mike

chuckystud said
If you want the advantages of circumcision, then, don't let a little fear keep you from doing it.

There are also disadvantages.

Good link and I agree, there are many many disadvantages of circumcision. The foreskin is there for a reason, and its such a shame so many people have been brain washed into thinking its dirty and just a mere "flap" of skin.

Don't do it
I went with the stretching and I couldn't be happier
Besides foreskin is a lot more fun

Agreed!

Delivis saidIf surgery is unneccesary, don't do it.

ditto...also you can always have the surgery in the future if necessary.

I went through the exact same thing a year and a half ago. I was petrified of going through with the surgery (so many internet horror stories!) so I tried the stretching route, and it actually made things worse. As I would stretch it, I would get little tears, which would heal into scar tissue. This was even less elastic than the regular skin, so my foreskin ended up even tighter. I bit the bullet and booked in for the surgery over christmas break from school last year. The doctor initially wanted to do it under a local anaesthetic, but I requested a general and he complied. The thought of being conscious and potentially feeling/seeing/hearing them go at my penis with a knife freaked me out. He explained that he would be doing a partial circumcision, so just taking off the narrower tip of my foreskin, leaving some of it behind. I was in and out of the hospital in about 6 hours, and sent home with a script for percocet. It was bandaged with a pressure bandage to keep the swelling (and erections) down which I was to leave on for a week or so. The healing was kind of brutal. I was waking up with terribly painful (and bloody!) erections, and you don't realise just how rough and uncomfortable underwear are until they're rubbing up against your recently-exposed glans. But, after a couple weeks, it was pretty much back to normal. Having the partial done helped too because I didn't have to relearn how to masturbate. Now that it's over, I'm glad I had it done. It wasn't a walk in the park, but it's only a couple weeks of it being sore. Feel free to get in touch with me if you have any questions at all.

Kippler said I went through the exact same thing a year and a half ago. I was petrified of going through with the surgery (so many internet horror stories!) so I tried the stretching route, and it actually made things worse. As I would stretch it, I would get little tears, which would heal into scar tissue. This was even less elastic than the regular skin, so my foreskin ended up even tighter. I bit the bullet and booked in for the surgery over christmas break from school last year. The doctor initially wanted to do it under a local anaesthetic, but I requested a general and he complied. The thought of being conscious and potentially feeling/seeing/hearing them go at my penis with a knife freaked me out. He explained that he would be doing a partial circumcision, so just taking off the narrower tip of my foreskin, leaving some of it behind. I was in and out of the hospital in about 6 hours, and sent home with a script for percocet. It was bandaged with a pressure bandage to keep the swelling (and erections) down which I was to leave on for a week or so. The healing was kind of brutal. I was waking up with terribly painful (and bloody!) erections, and you don't realise just how rough and uncomfortable underwear are until they're rubbing up against your recently-exposed glans. But, after a couple weeks, it was pretty much back to normal. Having the partial done helped too because I didn't have to relearn how to masturbate. Now that it's over, I'm glad I had it done. It wasn't a walk in the park, but it's only a couple weeks of it being sore. Feel free to get in touch with me if you have any questions at all.

I think you just over done the stretching. Maybe to eager to solve the problem. As Nhnelson says, the stretching is working well for him.

I say do it... I couldn't ever imagin having forskin... To me it looks so much better cut. Don't understand you missing the forskin??? Ha but look at this way you might be lossing skin but you will be able to see your other head.. and will shoot further now.. and thats always fun!!!

Well i cant say really what to do .. but trust yourself and do what you want and whats gonna make you happy. I don't know what it looks like but if stretching it will help and you get the same results as if you had the surgery then stretch it.. but i say cut away

Hello,

It is up to you foremost, however, I would not do it. Try the stretching for a while and see how far you get with that. Surgery should be the last resort to any problem, especially when it comes to your penis.

i dunno; I think uncut is kinda hot..

Why is everbody scared of it... I mean everybody is born with forskin and for thoes who are cut we went through it as babys... lol we lived through it.. if newborns and babys can go through it then any men can..lol

scorpio0440 saidWhy is everbody scared of it... I mean everybody is born with forskin and for thoes who are cut we went through it as babys... lol we lived through it.. if newborns and babys can go through it then any men can..lol

I'm with Scorpio on this one. I went through this as a baby and I'm still alive. You guys are acting like punks. I say if you don't want the skin anymore just get it cut off, but if you like doing strange sexual stuff with it then keep it. It's kinda like being a pack-rat; why keep something that your never going to use?

I think many of us that were cut without choice wish we hadn't been so hearing anyone talk about being cut seems such a shame. Medical reasons without other options are the only reason I would want to see someone do it. I think having the foreskin is not only natural but sexually attractive or in simpler terms, HOT.

DONT DO IT

Use Betamethasone and you can buy stretching devices and you can get yoru skin all teh way back like I havehttp://www.xtube.com/set.php?s=H0NSvpOoTc7
I am uncut and love the way I am

yes but not everyone find this attractive though, so don't believe that's necessarily a good reason to keep it. I honestly don't see what the big deal about this is. I mean, I've never heard of anyone that was cut wishing there weren't before. I'm actually pretty grateful that I was a birth so I wouldn't have to deal with things like this.

I'm really hoping that people aren't wishing they had the skin or don't want to get rid of it for masculinity reasons. It does come off that way a little, but I maybe wrong (and hoping I am)

I had my foreskin partially removed when I was 22. There is not stretch exercises that could help you with phimosis. The surgery is pretty simple and the stitches would fall off in a week. Your penis will love it, better hygiene , better sex.
Don't try to remove the stitches by yourself after surgery!
Good luck!

scorpio0440 said I say do it... I couldn't ever imagin having forskin... To me it looks so much better cut. Don't understand you missing the forskin??? Ha but look at this way you might be lossing skin but you will be able to see your other head.. and will shoot further now.. and thats always fun!!!

Well i cant say really what to do .. but trust yourself and do what you want and whats gonna make you happy. I don't know what it looks like but if stretching it will help and you get the same results as if you had the surgery then stretch it.. but i say cut away

I call bullshit on the "shoot further" comment.

tasty_oblivion said

scorpio0440 saidWhy is everbody scared of it... I mean everybody is born with forskin and for thoes who are cut we went through it as babys... lol we lived through it.. if newborns and babys can go through it then any men can..lol

I'm with Scorpio on this one. I went through this as a baby and I'm still alive. You guys are acting like punks. I say if you don't want the skin anymore just get it cut off, but if you like doing strange sexual stuff with it then keep it. It's kinda like being a pack-rat; why keep something that your never going to use?

"Strange sexual stuff" with foreskin?

^^^ vanilla alert ^^^

I completely agree that you should not go through surgery unless you absolutely need to. IF you are having doubts, that is a clue that you need more information!!! There is a lot of information, and online support available for phimosis. There are actually lots of successful cases of treating phimosis by stretching the skin. It should be encouraging that stretching is working so far for you. Just to get impatient, and done yourself some damage.

I am also in the process of 'covering myself back up', and having great success.

realguyla saidI had my foreskin partially removed when I was 22. There is not stretch exercises that could help you with phimosis. The surgery is pretty simple and the stitches would fall off in a week. Your penis will love it, better hygiene , better sex.
Don't try to remove the stitches by yourself after surgery!
Good luck!

Better hygiene comes from habit, not whacking things off. I use a q-tip to clean my ears. I don't choose to do away with them when they get dirty. I'm not lazy.

realguyla saidYour penis will love it, better hygiene , better sex.

Soap and water. Your penis will love you for it. The hygiene argument always amuses me. How often do you guys shower?

Someone offers you a bar of soap and a bucket of water, or a knife and you go for the knife Something just not right about that

And I question the better sex thing. I have heard there is more pleasure from uncut and to me that makes more sense.

no way... i just dont get it...lol better sex???? anyways i do love all penis no matter cut or uncut!!1

they actually talked about this in several articles in the recent mens health (ryan reynolds on cover!)

The procedure itself is not that painful, its only the fact that it deals with the penis that people get scared and think its going to be near death pain. I should probably site the article, but take a look if you get the chance and that might help with some insight

The incidence of STD is statistically lower in circumsized folks. I'm afraid some posters are a bit mis-leading about that. There is compelling evidence, via studies, that support the notion that disease is up to 30% lower in circumsized folks. Soap and water is NOT the answer; those posters clearly haven't read the stats. I didn't make up the studies. Facts are what they are.

"For one of the studies, CDC researcher Lee Warner and colleagues looked at black men living in Baltimore and found that 10% of those who were at high risk of HIV and were circumcised had the virus, compared with 22% of those who were not circumcised. According to the report, "Circumcision was associated with substantially reduced HIV risk in patients with known HIV exposure, suggesting that results of other studies demonstrating reduced HIV risk for circumcision among heterosexual men likely can be generalized to the U.S. context.""


(UnAIDS)
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2007/mc_recommendations_en.pdf

(World Health Organization Studies)
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/index.html

(The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/23/2412

(AIDSmap)
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/37A87885-0A35-431B-8C8C-6D7A4B1BB9F6.asp

(Science Daily)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080801094302.htm

(JAMA - Journal American Medical Association)
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/300/14/1698

(Kaiser Health Care)
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/Daily_Reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=56178

I'm afraid the poster is ill-informed.

Wow Chucky. I had no idea I was so at-risk for disease. I wonder why we're not all running out to get cut?

In other news, the incidence of athlete's foot is drastically lower in amputees.

Stretching is free.

chuckystud saidThe incidence of STD is statistically lower in circumsized folks. I'm afraid some posters are a bit mis-leading about that. There is compelling evidence, via studies, that support the notion that disease is up to 30% lower in circumsized folks. Soap and water is NOT the answer; those posters clearly haven't read the stats. I didn't make up the studies. Facts are what they are.

"For one of the studies, CDC researcher Lee Warner and colleagues looked at black men living in Baltimore and found that 10% of those who were at high risk of HIV and were circumcised had the virus, compared with 22% of those who were not circumcised. According to the report, "Circumcision was associated with substantially reduced HIV risk in patients with known HIV exposure, suggesting that results of other studies demonstrating reduced HIV risk for circumcision among heterosexual men likely can be generalized to the U.S. context.""


(UnAIDS)
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2007/mc_recommendations_en.pdf

(World Health Organization Studies)
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/index.html

(The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/23/2412

(AIDSmap)
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/37A87885-0A35-431B-8C8C-6D7A4B1BB9F6.asp

(Science Daily)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080801094302.htm

(JAMA - Journal American Medical Association)
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/300/14/1698

(Kaiser Health Care)
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/Daily_Reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=56178

I'm afraid the poster is ill-informed.

I repeat SOAP AND WATER. Wash it. Keep it clean. Have respect for it.

It's like people that won't cook dinner because they have to clean up after. Lazy people. It is what it is.

MikePhilPerez said

chuckystud saidThe incidence of STD is statistically lower in circumsized folks. I'm afraid some posters are a bit mis-leading about that. There is compelling evidence, via studies, that support the notion that disease is up to 30% lower in circumsized folks. Soap and water is NOT the answer; those posters clearly haven't read the stats. I didn't make up the studies. Facts are what they are.

"For one of the studies, CDC researcher Lee Warner and colleagues looked at black men living in Baltimore and found that 10% of those who were at high risk of HIV and were circumcised had the virus, compared with 22% of those who were not circumcised. According to the report, "Circumcision was associated with substantially reduced HIV risk in patients with known HIV exposure, suggesting that results of other studies demonstrating reduced HIV risk for circumcision among heterosexual men likely can be generalized to the U.S. context.""


(UnAIDS)
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2007/mc_recommendations_en.pdf

(World Health Organization Studies)
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/index.html

(The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/23/2412

(AIDSmap)
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/37A87885-0A35-431B-8C8C-6D7A4B1BB9F6.asp

(Science Daily)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080801094302.htm

(JAMA - Journal American Medical Association)
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/300/14/1698

(Kaiser Health Care)
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/Daily_Reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=56178

I'm afraid the poster is ill-informed.

I repeat SOAP AND WATER. Wash it. Keep it clean. Have respect for it.

It's like people that won't cook dinner because they have to clean up after. Lazy people. It is what it is.

Consider the source, MikePhil. There are other shortcuts and lazy ways to achieve unnatural purity. I give you exhibit A. ^^^

Don't do it. .Don't do it. Don't Do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You would be cutting off 15 square inches of the most sensitive skin on you body. Talk to people here who regret their decision or their parents decision @ http://www.restoreforeskin.com/ .... and are now going thru hell to grow it back...stretching is absolutely effective and easy in your case.

Alpha13 saidDon't do it. .Don't do it. Don't Do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You would be cutting off 15 square inches of the most sensitive skin on you body. Talk to people here who regret their decision or their parents decision @ http://www.restoreforeskin.com/ .... and are now going thru hell to grow it back...stretching is absolutely effective and easy in your case.

dude wtf? how do you have regrets on something that doesn't DO anything?

the studies that have be listed in the above websites have mostely been done with African populations, where HIV/AIDS and STI's are more common and easier to study.

Yes it is proven that circumscision will indeed prevent the infection of HIV and STI's, however, these results are seen typically in American since the population is different and its HARDER to get them in American than in other countries (not saying impossible, but the chance is much less).

again, menshealth had a great article about it..

" http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=health&category=other.diseases.ailments&conitem=6a8cd36265f1f110VgnVCM10000013281eac____ "

i am cut and love it. again i dont know nything else

but after reading this. a semi circum sounds hot. to bad you cant have that done lol

If you cut off your dick it will help prevent HIV.

tasty_oblivion said

Alpha13 saidDon't do it. .Don't do it. Don't Do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You would be cutting off 15 square inches of the most sensitive skin on you body. Talk to people here who regret their decision or their parents decision @ http://www.restoreforeskin.com/ .... and are now going thru hell to grow it back...stretching is absolutely effective and easy in your case.

dude wtf? how do you have regrets on something that doesn't DO anything?

But it does.

I'm gonna get my ass sewn shut and buy a colostomy bag so I don't get colon cancer.

realguyla saidI had my foreskin partially removed when I was 22. There is not stretch exercises that could help you with phimosis. The surgery is pretty simple and the stitches would fall off in a week. Your penis will love it, better hygiene , better sex.
Don't try to remove the stitches by yourself after surgery!
Good luck!

A partial circumcision is generally considered the best of both worlds and is often recommended, erring on the side of circumcision at about 2/3 a full circumcision.

The foreskin was important in our evolution especially before humans wore clothing.

Now that we have clothing, however, it's redundant and further increases heat, humidity, and other unsavory conditions that accelerate a variety of problems.

Differences in your genetics also play a role. For example, bend your arm all the way and leave it that way for 30 to 60 minutes. Then unfold your arm and determine if sweat has accumulated in your inner elbow fold (intertriginous area). In some persons it will be sweaty, and in others it won't. If sweat accumulates there (or between your toes, or any other intertriginous zones of your body), then circumcision is advisable for health and hygiene reasons.

Hygiene is probably the largest factor here, so if hygiene or frequent care to maintain good hygiene isn't a concern, then there's little need for circumcision unless otherwise medically warranted (such as frequent fungal or bacterial infections, and so on).

Again, everybody's genetics vary----but most uncircumcised men must clean the area about 6.5 times as frequently as circumcised men in order to maintain a similar level of hygiene. Again, this is because any intertriginous area encourages rapid growth of odorous bacteria and/or fungi.

chuckystud saidThe incidence of STD is statistically lower in circumsized folks. I'm afraid some posters are a bit mis-leading about that. There is compelling evidence, via studies, that support the notion that disease is up to 30% lower in circumsized folks. Soap and water is NOT the answer; those posters clearly haven't read the stats. I didn't make up the studies. Facts are what they are.

"For one of the studies, CDC researcher Lee Warner and colleagues looked at black men living in Baltimore and found that 10% of those who were at high risk of HIV and were circumcised had the virus, compared with 22% of those who were not circumcised. According to the report, "Circumcision was associated with substantially reduced HIV risk in patients with known HIV exposure, suggesting that results of other studies demonstrating reduced HIV risk for circumcision among heterosexual men likely can be generalized to the U.S. context.""


(UnAIDS)
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2007/mc_recommendations_en.pdf

(World Health Organization Studies)
http://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/index.html

(The prestigious New England Journal of Medicine)
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/23/2412

(AIDSmap)
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/37A87885-0A35-431B-8C8C-6D7A4B1BB9F6.asp

(Science Daily)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080801094302.htm

(JAMA - Journal American Medical Association)
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/300/14/1698

(Kaiser Health Care)
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/Daily_Reports/rep_index.cfm?DR_ID=56178

I'm afraid the poster is ill-informed.

If you're practicing safer sex and wearing a condom, it doesn't matter whether or not you're circumcised.

I've said it before & I'll say it again: Truth is, circumcised men are the minority worldwideGenerally speaking, it is AMERICAN men who are pro-circumcision, and it is RARELY for health reasons. Religious reasons excluded, it is almost invariably due to surgical alteration becoming the social norm (ie. his grandfather had it done, and his father had it done, so he'll have it done...so he looks like his father and the rest of the boys), and the mythos surrounding those left intact.

It is sort of sad that in a country where people are against media that give the wrong body image to young girls, parents are indirectly telling their sons that there is something wrong with them from the moment they are born, and subject them to involuntary (and usually unnecessary) elective surgery.

In any case, this is off topic.

nhnelson -- make the decision that is right for YOU after you are FULLY informed with all of the options.

americanjustin said
If sweat accumulates there (or between your toes, or any other intertriginous zones of your body), then circumcision is advisable for health and hygiene reasons.

This is very interesting and something that I had not thought of.

Not wanting to speak out of turn, we'll call my BF, "Someone I know".

Someone I know actually does sweat like you describe and I wouldn't put his uncut penis in my mouth again without him having a shower.

There's a lot of talk about soap and water on this page, but spontaneity is a really nice option to have too.

Always take the least radical solution.:non-surgical rather than surgery.
I'd stick with the cream for a few months and stretch things a bit. Then if you must do the surgery find someone who will do the procedure without charge. Just allow him to keep the tips.

Hossain saidi cant believe how many people are agaisnt you getting this circumcision. personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks. ive actually gagged going down on one b4.


besides it doesnt look like a penis. in sex ed they dont show an uncut penis cuz thhats not what it looks like. id say go for the circumcision. just like that one guy above me said....if babys can do it...you can. besides your gonna get some bad ass drugs when your done lol

SIGH....See my comment above

Precisely my point, AmericanJustin. It's more work to keep your penis clean if you have foreskin. If you read what I said earlier, I in no way implied the man's problems were caused by lack of cleanliness.
Lack of cleanliness, in fact, can lead to an increased risk of penile cancer.
If he gets his problem corrected with stretching, then he won't have to be circumcised.
And, if you practice safe sex, your risk of contracting disease is dramatically lowered, foreskin or not.

Hossain saidi cant believe how many people are agaisnt you getting this circumcision. personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks. ive actually gagged going down on one b4.


besides it doesnt look like a penis. in sex ed they dont show an uncut penis cuz thhats not what it looks like. id say go for the circumcision. just like that one guy above me said....if babys can do it...you can. besides your gonna get some bad ass drugs when your done lol

Then stop sucking homeless dick, because uncut is not as bad as what you "personally think".

F*cking arrested development teenagers insulting broad swaths of the gay community just so they can feel better about themselves. Take that crap back to S4 where the "mean-girl" judgment reigns supreme. Oh...and get an education while you're at it.

Hossain saidi cant believe how many people are agaisnt you getting this circumcision. personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks. ive actually gagged going down on one b4.

Where do you hang out

RuggerATX said

Hossain saidi cant believe how many people are agaisnt you getting this circumcision. personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks. ive actually gagged going down on one b4.


besides it doesnt look like a penis. in sex ed they dont show an uncut penis cuz thhats not what it looks like. id say go for the circumcision. just like that one guy above me said....if babys can do it...you can. besides your gonna get some bad ass drugs when your done lol

Then stop sucking homeless dick, because uncut is not as bad as what you "personally think".

F*cking arrested development teenagers insulting broad swaths of the gay community just so they can feel better about themselves. Take that crap back to S4 where the "mean-girl" judgment reigns supreme. Oh...and get an education while you're at it.

I was a little more subtle. LOL

wvufan87 saidPrecisely my point, AmericanJustin. It's more work to keep your penis clean if you have foreskin.

More work. Hmn. Let's see....

Retract foreskin, wash, dry, roll foreskin back down.

Man, I might have to take a personal day off of work to take care of that.

It's either not having the availability to clean it right away (ie. if you have been getting sweaty outdoors) or (unfortunately) sheer laziness of uncut men who don't have an immaculately clean penis. It's still not a reason to lop it off.

MikePhilPerez said

RuggerATX said

Hossain saidi cant believe how many people are agaisnt you getting this circumcision. personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks. ive actually gagged going down on one b4.


besides it doesnt look like a penis. in sex ed they dont show an uncut penis cuz thhats not what it looks like. id say go for the circumcision. just like that one guy above me said....if babys can do it...you can. besides your gonna get some bad ass drugs when your done lol

Then stop sucking homeless dick, because uncut is not as bad as what you "personally think".

F*cking arrested development teenagers insulting broad swaths of the gay community just so they can feel better about themselves. Take that crap back to S4 where the "mean-girl" judgment reigns supreme. Oh...and get an education while you're at it.

I was a little more subtle. LOL

This cut/uncut discussion always riles me up. People can be unbelievably myopic about it.

I wonder if the OP even decided yet

Yikes, god's speed.

Hossain saidwow. i cant believe how rude you were to a complete stranger? if you notice jackass i said personal opinion. from experience. and not from sucking HOMELESS DICK you asshole.

what gives you the right to publicly insult and basically humiliate someone you have never met before? and poke at the personal things in my life that have nothing to do with you? how were you raised? and to think you from austin where everryone is supposed to be kind and nice and helpful to other people. maybe you should come back to dallas...as since you feel i have such a "mean-girl" persona.... i feel you probably lived here for a while and couldnt take the drama..(which btw..in this thread you started) so you decided to move to austin where is more calm...well guess what

you have the exact same attitude...as you notice you rip on some random person in a thread that is really nothign more than a few pictures and some black typings...


as for education. i will and get my degree just as you have...so i can be just like you. a stable, educated yet insecure judgemental asshole who feels the need to put others down to feel better about themselves....hows that for mean girl rugger?

You threw billions of men under the bus. THEN, I threw you (OK and maybe S4). That's the difference, kid.

God so much fucking work to keep an uncut penis clean. First I have to roll the skin back, who the hell has time to do that? I mean shit.. Then CLEAN IN? Are you shitting me? Why would I want to clean anythinig? Roll it back down and I'm done? Like it's really that easy..


Yeah.. If some guy can't keep his dick clean, I'm sure hes got a whole mess of other problems..

JayneCobb saidGod so much fucking work to keep an uncut penis clean. First I have to roll the skin back, who the hell has time to do that? I mean shit.. Then CLEAN IN? Are you shitting me? Why would I want to clean anythinig? Roll it back down and I'm done? Like it's really that easy..


Yeah.. If some guy can't keep his dick clean, I'm sure hes got a whole mess of other problems..

Says it all really.

Hossain saidwow. i cant believe how rude you were to a complete stranger? if you notice jackass i said personal opinion. from experience. and not from sucking HOMELESS DICK you asshole.

what gives you the right to publicly insult and basically humiliate someone you have never met before? and poke at the personal things in my life that have nothing to do with you? how were you raised? and to think you from austin where everryone is supposed to be kind and nice and helpful to other people. maybe you should come back to dallas...as since you feel i have such a "mean-girl" persona.... i feel you probably lived here for a while and couldnt take the drama..(which btw..in this thread you started) so you decided to move to austin where is more calm...well guess what

you have the exact same attitude...as you notice you rip on some random person in a thread that is really nothign more than a few pictures and some black typings...


as for education. i will and get my degree just as you have...so i can be just like you. a stable, educated yet insecure judgemental asshole who feels the need to put others down to feel better about themselves....hows that for mean girl rugger?

Umm....you are upset because of he was "rude you were to a complete stranger"...yet you had NO reservations about insulting every uncut man on this site by saying "personally i think uncut is completely disgusting. yall dont take care of it...it always stinks." (the last comment being a broad and unproven generalization). You then go on to further insult us by saying "besides it doesnt look like a penis. in sex ed they dont show an uncut penis cuz thhats not what it looks like."

Even if you've had an...unsavoury experience with an uncut penis, there are less inflammatory ways you could have presented your point of view...even if it was culturally biased.

tasty_oblivion saidI wonder if the OP even decided yet

No, I sure haven't.
This is all so... overwhelming, you guys.
Ok, I'm going to meet with the surgeon on Friday, and I'll keep you posted on how things go. I guess, until then, I'll weigh everything said here. Or, I'll try to, at least. Thanks to everyone who responded!

Yikes!

My forskin used to be pretty tight actually.

I had a little meeting where they snipped (actually burnt I believe..) the small peice that connected the forskin to the head. No pain (swollen forskin for a few days and you had to keep it extremly clean, like after every time you used the bathroom soap it up), now everything works perfectly fine! Not one problem at all.



And as for whoever said forskins are ugly, when mines rolled back (during an erection it is) you cant even tell that I'm uncut. It's just not noticeable.

nhnelson said

tasty_oblivion saidI wonder if the OP even decided yet

No, I sure haven't.
This is all so... overwhelming, you guys.
Ok, I'm going to meet with the surgeon on Friday, and I'll keep you posted on how things go. I guess, until then, I'll weigh everything said here. Or, I'll try to, at least. Thanks to everyone who responded!

Yikes!

Well, keep getting as many perspectives as possible*...this thread is only a little bit.

* well...maybe not over something like dinner...especially if someone orders the calamari ;)

nhnelson said

tasty_oblivion saidI wonder if the OP even decided yet

No, I sure haven't.
This is all so... overwhelming, you guys.
Ok, I'm going to meet with the surgeon on Friday, and I'll keep you posted on how things go. I guess, until then, I'll weigh everything said here. Or, I'll try to, at least. Thanks to everyone who responded!

Yikes!

What ever you decide I wish you the best of luck. I just hope no one is forcing you to get it done (boyfriend)

I stand by everything I have said, and the guy I speak about is my partner so I know him very well.

JayneCobb saidMy forskin used to be pretty tight actually.

I had a little meeting where they snipped (actually burnt I believe..) the small peice that connected the forskin to the head. No pain (swollen forskin for a few days and you had to keep it extremly clean, like after every time you used the bathroom soap it up), now everything works perfectly fine! Not one problem at all.



And as for whoever said forskins are ugly, when mines rolled back (during an erection it is) you cant even tell that I'm uncut. It's just not noticeable.

I had something similar done to mine -- my foreskin was a little too tight (it would "tug" the head of my penis down when it would get erect)...so they made a little v-shaped snip in my frenulum (the above-mentioned piece of skin that connects the foreskin to the head)...under local anaesthetic...took a week to heal...and it looks and works fine.

nhnelson, maybe this is an option for you.

Go for it and embrace a brand new you!

(Hi Tapper )

I TRULY HOPE YOU WILL CANCEL THE SURGERY!!!!!

You do not need to have your foreskin removed to take care of your problem; you've proven that to yourself.

Getting rid of your foreskin will make your sexual response completely different, and you're going to deny your future partner the chance to chew on that beautiful curtain of skin when he's making love to you.

Include a little foreskin stretching in every sexual encounter you manage to join, and be grateful that your parents didn't mutilate you as a baby.

Stretch first, snip later, but only if really needed should the stretching fail. You lose a lot of sensitivity when you get cut, and only an absolute medical necessity should cause it.

everyone can go suck my fat fucking cock. stupid fucking faggots. last time i open my mouth and share my
god damn opinion!!!!!!

Hmm... it seems that a lot of people are posting comments based on their own preference as to whether they like cut or uncut guys . Personally, it sounds from your original post that this is something you want to avoid if you can. If that's the case, then I'd suggest seeing if there were alternatives to remedy your situation as recommended by a medical professional.

If it comes down to having to go through the circumcision, have you asked yourself why you are against it? Is it just fear of the pain or is there something deeper to it? I think before you go through any surgery, it's important to address the psychological aspects of what the surgery will do. I was circumcised at birth, so I can't really speak to this specifically, but I have had several surgeries during my teens where I actually went to see a psychologist to discuss the effects of the surgeries. I was surprised how much emotion I was holding onto, and eventually came to the conclusion I wasn't so much afraid of the surgery, as having someone change my body; it was a complete power struggle about not being able to control my own being. This could very likely not be an issue with you, but it's worth contemplating nonetheless.

Hey nhnelson,

Sorry to hear about your problem. Sounds like a bitch to have to deal with. I have a friend who had to deal with the same problem two years ago. He was having pain during sex, and his doctor suggested circumcision as the best solution. Like you, he didn't exactly want to get it done, but he wanted to fix the problem.

He said it was relatively painless for him, until he went back to get the stitches removed. Ouch! He did get a nose job at the same time, so he may have been distracted by the pain from that

He says he wished it didn't need to be done, but he's extremely happy with the results. Apparently, sex was pretty uncomfortable for him with things the way they were, and now he doesn't have to worry about more problems with it down the road. His cock looks amazing and he loves it.

Ultimately, you have to do what you're comfortable with. Don't get swayed by the guys on here who are telling you cut cocks look mutilated or uncut is gross. The fact that there are so many guys on both sides of that argument shows that every guy has to deal with the possibility of dating a guy who prefers the other.

And you're super hot, so any guy who makes that a factor is insane! Don't let worrying about that add to the stress you're already going through dealing with a medical issue.

Good luck with everything

tasty_oblivion said

Alpha13 saidDon't do it. .Don't do it. Don't Do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You would be cutting off 15 square inches of the most sensitive skin on you body. Talk to people here who regret their decision or their parents decision @ http://www.restoreforeskin.com/ .... and are now going thru hell to grow it back...stretching is absolutely effective and easy in your case.

dude wtf? how do you have regrets on something that doesn't DO anything?

The argument that foreskin doesn't "do anything" and is therefore expendable needs to stop. Please, please, please read this:

http://www.newforeskin.biz/members/framesetMain.htm

I will never understand how it has become acceptable for doctors to remove healthy tissue from healthy boys (without their consent!) because of our collective parents' ignorance and inactivism. As for circumcision as a means of preventing STIs: in my humble opinion, that's akin to amputating your arm to prevent the possibility of carpal tunnel syndrome. It's mind-boggling.

But if it's medically warranted, and you consent to it, and the stretching doesn't work, and if you've tried every other method known to man, then, well, (and I say this with a big sigh) do it. That's totally understandable, and I wish you the best of luck with your decision.

But, yeah, my gut reaction is, as Alpha13 put it: don't do it don't do it don't do it.

OUCH!!!!! If you can just stretch it yourself, that's what I would do. Have your boyfriend help, it would be hot. Personally I love playing with a guy's foreskin, wish I still had mine.

Same thing happened to me. The first week will be painful and you won't even be able to recognize your penis. It'll pass and by one month you should be completely back to normal. Best thing I ever did for myself... just get through that first week and you'll be great. Good luck!

I love my skin. I call it Billy

But ouchie.... my penis cries for you.

Vlas saidSame thing happened to me. The first week will be painful and you won't even be able to recognize your penis. It'll pass and by one month you should be completely back to normal. Best thing I ever did for myself... just get through that first week and you'll be great. Good luck!

Wouldn't you be really horny after that one month? I can't see a guy being able to masterbate until at least after a month or longer, least until everything is healed.

Sean_85 said

Vlas saidSame thing happened to me. The first week will be painful and you won't even be able to recognize your penis. It'll pass and by one month you should be completely back to normal. Best thing I ever did for myself... just get through that first week and you'll be great. Good luck!

Wouldn't you be really horny after that one month? I can't see a guy being able to masterbate until at least after a month or longer, least until everything is healed.

Hear, hear! What am I supposed to do? Read?!?

It's not worth it, it is DEFINITELY NOT worth it. Wasn't circ'd til i was 5, would much rather have kept it.

Go with the stretching mate! I miss my foreskin and never knew it...!

DON'T GET SNIPPED!!

Sean_85 said

Vlas saidSame thing happened to me. The first week will be painful and you won't even be able to recognize your penis. It'll pass and by one month you should be completely back to normal. Best thing I ever did for myself... just get through that first week and you'll be great. Good luck!

Wouldn't you be really horny after that one month? I can't see a guy being able to masterbate until at least after a month or longer, least until everything is healed.

You find ways to masturbate. Obviously you can't start tugging at it full on, but you can lightly brush your fingers up the shaft while watching porn. After about 2 weeks without cumming, your penis is so responsive to stimulation that lightly brushing your fingers is enough to pull off an ejaculation.

Check out this website, it is very informative and if you are cut you can learn how you were cut and what style the doctor used (like mine is high and tight).

http://www.circlist.com/circhome.html

I am cut, I like the cut look, I am glad I am cut, I maybe glad I was uncut but it happened at birth, so it is what I am know and use to. Also, I have this pleasure spot on the underside of the shaft right above the cut line on the pink skin. It is super sensitive and so pleasurable that I am not sure if the doc saved that area of skin or it is the way I am wired, but I am happy to have it.

i got circumcised. when i was 11 . muslims get circumcised like jews.

i love being circumcised- grew up thinking everyone was, till gym showers in middle school- they're still alien and weird looking to me- never been with a guy who wasn't cut, so its an unknown to me.

Are there guys who won't date uncircumcised men? I'm not circumscised, so I have no idea what the benefits of being circumscised are.

Don't do it unless you decide it's physically necessary - do the exercises, I wish i had mine - It makes most sense to me that nature designed it for a purpose and having it comes with benefits

Hmmmmmm.
If you choose not to engage in a long term monogamous relationship, do not like using a condom, and in general are exposed to STDs on a regular basis - get circumsized to reduce your risk of HIV, HPV, HSV.
If you can't be bothered to pull back your foreskin and clean yourself at least once a day and after a sexual encounter - get circumsized.
If you you prefer the "look" of a circumsized penis - get circumsized.
Is this what the debate boils down to?

Men's Health has a good article this month about it - and RECOMMENDS circumcision (for STD/HIV reasons).

So go ahead and do it. One of the testimonials from a guy was that he had INCREASED sensitivity post-operation.

Good luck!

Oh dear.

DON'T DO IT... WASH IT .. KEEP IT CLEAN... LOTION UP.. and Stretch... you'll miss your skin... you'll miss the THOUSANDS of Nerve Endings that will be removed....

Sexual dysfunction usually suffering seeks medical attention and difficulty with intercourse. Other causes of Sexual disorder can be like drinking habit. So people need to get good diet to cure of sexual health.

http://www.levitrabliss.com

I was circumcised at about 6 or 7 years old. It hurt but just for a day. Perhaps because I was pretty young. I was glad I had it done.

I get compliments on my pecker.

Cut dat shyt off...u will be happier! UNCUT WEE-WEE is gross bro

masculine31 saidCut dat shyt off...u will be happier! UNCUT WEE-WEE is gross bro

"So's your skanky-ass tightly curled pubes. They harbor too much musky stench, and bacteria as well. Get some hair relaxer on that shit so you can comb out the funk. Or better yet, shave that nasty birds nest off."

See how this works? Right. It doesn't. You went and offended the majority of the male world population (or to be perfectly accurate, half the membership of this site).

P.S.: I'm not really racist, just getting in character like this bitch to prove a point.

P.P.S.: If you don't want to hear rude things from other people, don't post rude shit like that.

[quote] RuggerATX
P.S.: I'm not really racist, just getting in character like this bitch to prove a point.
P.P.S.: If you don't want to hear rude things from other people, don't post rude shit like that.[/quote]

Right, you aren't racist. As long as you didn't really mean what you just wrote, that somehow makes it ok to post? There's making a point, and then there's taking something too far. There’s a major difference between saying “Uncut wee wee is gross bro” and basically calling someone a nappy-haired nigger. They say everything's bigger in Texas. I guess that includes assholes.

UofTLatinBoy said[quote] RuggerATX
P.S.: I'm not really racist, just getting in character like this bitch to prove a point.
P.P.S.: If you don't want to hear rude things from other people, don't post rude shit like that.

Right, you aren't racist. As long as you didn't really mean what you just wrote, that somehow makes it ok to post? There's making a point, and then there's taking something too far. They say everything's bigger in Texas. I guess that includes assholes. [/quote]




Tell me my dick is gross and the only way to make it not gross is to cut some of it off? Yeah, that's when I go asshole. So deal or STFU. You obviously have no idea how deeply insulting some of this BS is to so many uncut guys.

This is the second time you've tried to call me out. Leave me alone. I'm not interested in you.

In defense of RuggerATX

Most guys can understand an argument when it is presented in an intellectual manner. But for some reason, when it comes to circumcision, American guys (the cut ones which is the vast majority of American guys) lose all sense of logic and reasoning when someone tries to explain the benefits of a foreskin and to dispel the myths about a foreskin being bad.

It's very difficult to get the message through and RuggerATX used the nuclear option... I've read all his posts on this thread and the other circ threads and he has always tried to make his points in a logical, reasoned manner. I don't blame RuggerATX at all for using some "stronger language" in this case. Perhaps the message got through...

so how's your dick doing?

Timberoo saidso how's your dick doing?

Who you asking, the OP?

Timberoo saidso how's your dick doing?

Yeah, assholishness and ignorant persona schtick aside, how is the OP doing these days?

I love being uncut. So much more sensitive than the cut guys I know. Makes sex a lot more intense for me. If you're in pain though I would explore all other options first..

I love an uncut but also love cut. Wonder why? Guess we all know why, mine is cut and I feel that I have lost sensitivity because of it, it takes longer to cum I think. Would love to learn how to grow some of it back.

Ah Ha!! Proof that you really are a tight ass.


[quote][cite]chuckystud said[/cite]I

A few years back, I dealt with what many advanced lifters do: hemorrhoid surgery. It sucked. It hurt. It hurt like you wouldn't believe (I had it tightened, as well as removed the hemorrhoids.)

I had phimosis last month I stretched it and one day after I used the rest room I pulled it back all the way. I was shocked and stared at my penis for hours. "hhmm This is new?!!" It took me at least a month to get it all the way. Make sure its moist! It got stuck one time because my glands(head) was dry and it was sooo sensitive. soak it in water to can help

lenoxx saidI had phimosis last month I stretched it and one day after I used the rest room I pulled it back all the way. I was shocked and stared at my penis for hours. "hhmm This is new?!!" It took me at least a month to get it all the way. Make sure its moist! It got stuck one time because my glands(head) was dry and it was sooo sensitive. soak it in water to can help

Not sure if this is a dead thread but..... I had phimosis too. It appears it's more common than I thought. I got mine cut though...... I was so depressed afterwards.... I even cried a bit... had several panic attacks.... and was rueing the day I went to have the surgery preformed. I knew about the stretching... but............... you never know how much you'll miss something until it's gone. You will lose sensitivity and it feels *numb....*

The overall process WAS NOT painful. I don't know why people think it hurts. I never once took a pain killer. I'm just that tough.

....And I was very naughty.... I didn't wait the four-six weeks that were recommended.

Damn, I miss my foreskin.

It's kinda funny to see uncut guys tell everyone who is cut how much they're missing. How do you know? It's physically impossible for you to.

Perhaps someone can enlighten us why so many men spend painful amounts of time lamenting circumcision. Is it foreskin envy? My parents did lots of shit that - as a grown-up - I don't like. I've seen pictures from childhood, and those Garanimals were fugly. But I'm not going to spend my adulthood lamenting it.

Let the dude make the choice that's right for him without burying him in your own baggage and biases. He's dealing with a medical issue (or was), not trying to decide on a pair of shoes.

i don't like the fact that i'm circumcised because when i'm fully erect my skin is -tight- and by that fact it also means extended periods of erection and intercourse can get painful. (like fucking a dozen times in a day)

It's kinda funny to see uncut guys tell everyone who is cut how much they're missing. How do you know? It's physically impossible for you to.

Isn't it just the opposite though? An uncut guy knows what the experience is like to have a foreskin, so of course they are going to know what they are missing if it were taken away and what guys are missing who never had one since birth.

Perhaps someone can enlighten us why so many men spend painful amounts of time lamenting circumcision.

Because forcing it on someone is a violation of their body. It serves a biological purpose even. It's illegal to do anything like this to a girl, even if it's just as 'minor' as male circumcision.

My parents did lots of shit that - as a grown-up - I don't like. I've seen pictures from childhood, and those Garanimals were fugly. But I'm not going to spend my adulthood lamenting it.

Because the violation continues against others and you have people saying it's ok to do and that guys who are circumcised should feel ok about it, like nothing happened or that it's not wrong to do.

Let the dude make the choice that's right for him without burying him in your own baggage and biases.

That's how it should be, people should choose for themselves what they want.

southbeach1500 saidIn defense of RuggerATX
Most guys can understand an argument when it is presented in an intellectual manner. But for some reason, when it comes to circumcision, American guys (the cut ones which is the vast majority of American guys) lose all sense of logic and reasoning when someone tries to explain the benefits of a foreskin and to dispel the myths about a foreskin being bad.

I agree.

Some people get so much scar tissue on their foreskin after suffering from phimosis that using creams/stretching does not help and never will.

Trust me-- I had the procedure done when I was younger and I was given the strong suggestion to do so by a fiercely anti-circumcision doctor.

It's not a black and white issue. Everybody calm down.

citylife saidSome people get so much scar tissue on their foreskin after suffering from phimosis that using creams/stretching does not help and never will.

Trust me-- I had the procedure done when I was younger and I was given the strong suggestion to do so by a fiercely anti-circumcision doctor.

It's not a black and white issue. Everybody calm down.

We did. The last post was over two months ago.

citylife saidSome people get so much scar tissue on their foreskin after suffering from phimosis that using creams/stretching does not help and never will.

Trust me-- I had the procedure done when I was younger and I was given the strong suggestion to do so by a fiercely anti-circumcision doctor.

It's not a black and white issue. Everybody calm down.

It's not about circumcision being bad in and of itself that is the problem, it's just the idea of forcing it onto people regardless if they need it done or not, like for non-therapeutic reasons on infant males. That's the whole problem. I don't think anyone cares if it's done to treat a problem or out of a person's personal choice.

nhnelson saidHey Everyone,
So, here's the thing: I went into the doctor about a month ago because I was having some sexual woes, mostly pain during sex (unimportant) and it turns out I've got phimosis. Unfortunate. So, he told me I could get circumcised or try and stretch the skin on my own. I'm into quick fixes so, I figured I'd just get the circumcision. The operation is a week and a half away, and I'm getting more and more nervous with each passing day. Since the operation was a month away anyway, I decided I might try stretching the skin for kicks. I have been, and it's actually coming along quite nicely. Now I'm scheduled to have this surgery soon, and I'm A) petrified of the pain it's going to cause and B) afraid I'll miss my foreskin. What do you guys think? Would you go through with it? How do you feel about being cut/uncut?

UPDATE!
Thanks to everyone who gave me their insight on this topic, it's really helped a lot. So, after much consideration (and a personal revelation), I've decided to at least postpone the surgery. I feel like, if the stretching can work, I definitely need more time to explore that part of my body before I cut it off altogether. Thanks again, everyone! You've helped me greatly!

hey there well i had the same problem i opted for the surgery, instead of getting a full circumcision, he gave me a semi.. this way when its soft it looks uncut but when hard it looks cut.. i am extremely pleased with the result.

It was painful though! i cant lie.

but its a personal choice

Hey David I'm just curious, did the doctor cut the frenulum out as part of the partial circumcision?

As has been noted here in several threads, circumcision has numerous benefits and advantages, including reduced chance of infection, easier maintenance, and less risk of many serious issues like the OP's, as well as penile cancer, yeast infections, and more. If the stretching route does not work, I'd go for the circumcision.


Yes, it may be painful for a few days, but it will be worth it in the end. Having your tonsils removed as an adult is also painful, but for those with chronic strep throat, it's more than worth a week or two of discomfort. I'm sure once you are fully recovered from the procedure, the lifetime of ease and pain-free use of your penis you have gained will more than justify the temporary discomfort.

I was circumcised at age 15. It was a decision that I made simply because uncuts are just nasty looking.
After I was done healing I actually felt free-er (spelling?), and much bloody cleaner too.
All that extra skin just looks so.....I don't know, tribal like. Recovery time was not that bad. A bit painful, but as these americans like to say, "suck it up!" LOL!
Cheers,
Keith

Beyond the disease exaggerations there are negative side effects to circumcision, such as the loss of the sensitive skin itself as well as the protection it affords:

Example from article link below:
For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis.

http://www.livescience.com/health/070615_penis_sensitivity.html

Musclequest saidI was circumcised at age 15. It was a decision that I made simply because uncuts are just nasty looking.
After I was done healing I actually felt free-er (spelling?), and much bloody cleaner too.
All that extra skin just looks so.....I don't know, tribal like. Recovery time was not that bad. A bit painful, but as these americans like to say, "suck it up!" LOL!
Cheers,
Keith

That's good you had the choice, which I think is just what everyone wants.

Musclequest said...because uncuts are just nasty looking.

Do you really have to say it like that? Over half the men in the world are uncut. That's a lot of people to offend with a statement that you seem to sell as fact. Why not at least say that this is your personal opinion? I mean obviously it is, but to say it the way you did sounds adolescent and completely insensitive of others.

I was under the impression that you were a nice person. Oops.

Musclequest saidI was circumcised at age 15. It was a decision that I made simply because uncuts are just nasty looking.
After I was done healing I actually felt free-er (spelling?), and much bloody cleaner too.
All that extra skin just looks so.....I don't know, tribal like. Recovery time was not that bad. A bit painful, but as these americans like to say, "suck it up!" LOL!
Cheers,
Keith

Finally someone with common sense and the boldness to say what many, many of us were thinking but too cowardly to type out. lol I am rarely one to hold back for fear of hurting people's feelings; sometimes honesty is the best policy.

I will say that personally I find some uncut penises very attractive, although still harder to work with and certainly harder to maintain. (I have come across many uncut guys who were "less than fresh" down there; whereas this obviously is never a concern with cut guys.) However, other uncuts with excessive, bunchy or dangly foreskin (ew!) or tight foreskin that oddly and/or uncomfortably misshapes and restricts the glans can indeed be very, very unattractive -- enough to turn me off from someone almost completely. It's also a hassle to work with in almost any sexual activity because it's so fragile and delicate.

Anti-circumcision fanatics love to ignore the proven health benefits of being cut, and to instead demonize the supposed loss of sensation, but the fact is, 99% of sexual stimulation is in the brain, so even this minor loss of sensitive skin makes absolutely no difference in the end. Thus, there are CLEARLY numerous benefits to being cut, and no real downside.

All this, on top of the health benefits, is what makes me SO happy my parents had me cut when I was an infant, and why I would certainly extend the same courtesy to my own children, were I to adopt at some point, and why I wholeheartedly recommend it to others -- both for infants and for adults who have encountered issues with their foreskin, like the OP's.

This is the first I saw of your thread and am sooo relieved [for you] that you opted to postpone, especially if there is a non-surgical option. Your health should come first of course.

But it's a part of your body and just like any other part there will be times when you/others love it and times when you/others hate it. I think it is very wise to try to work with it before lobbing it off.

I'm circumcised and for years didn't like guys that were, until I learned that anyone who makes a point to be hygienic and clean will be. I've met many guys who seemed to take their personal hygiene as seriously as they do the chance that they will get pregnant.

In my 36 years I've learned to love my body and all it's idiosyncrasies, some things need more attending to others, that's life. I don't feel robbed or anything, but I wish I had that literal piece of me back so I could love that too.

Just a thought, good luck to you.

Delivis saidIf surgery is unneccesary, don't do it.

I AGREE DONT DO IT...my buddy just got it done and he has been in AGONY for a month. He was able to masterbate for the first time a week ago. Almost 5 weeks after the procedure. He said it kept breaking and bleeding. He couldnt touch the head when masterbating either. The doctor told him no sexual activity for 6 weeks. Plus night time erections cause it to rip open. Tough decision dude. But if I was in your shoes I woudlnt do it. I hope it all fares well for you my friend!

Pattison_the_Great said Don't do it! If the skin is stretching, thats all you need. Keep the skin. I lost mine and want it back. Circumcision is barbaric.

Me too! Like i had mentioned earlier a friend got it done and its been hellish. He said it definitly took a lot of feeling away sexually.

I agree with almost everyone here... DON'T DO IT.

kinetic saidi dunno; I think uncut is kinda hot..

I agree with this too hahaha

cthedj said

Delivis saidIf surgery is unneccesary, don't do it.

I AGREE DONT DO IT...my buddy just got it done and he has been in AGONY for a month. He was able to masterbate for the first time a week ago. Almost 5 weeks after the procedure. He said it kept breaking and bleeding. He couldnt touch the head when masterbating either. The doctor told him no sexual activity for 6 weeks. Plus night time erections cause it to rip open. Tough decision dude. But if I was in your shoes I woudlnt do it. I hope it all fares well for you my friend!

That's a sad but rare case of complications -- as is possible with any medical procedure. Still, a few months of discomfort versus a lifetime of being healed? Completely worth it in the end, if you think long-term.

I would agree with most others here: IF the stretching works and completely clears up the condition, then be happy with that (unless you'd like to be cut anyway for the array of other benefits to yourself and your partners). If stretching fails to help fix the problem entirely, however, as I have a feeling it might, then you'd be foolish not to opt for this procedure and deny yourself a lifetime of increased safety and comfort.

RuggerATX said

Musclequest said...because uncuts are just nasty looking.

Do you really have to say it like that? Over half the men in the world are uncut. That's a lot of people to offend with a statement that you seem to sell as fact. Why not at least say that this is your personal opinion? I mean obviously it is, but to say it the way you did sounds adolescent and completely insensitive of others.

I was under the impression that you were a nice person. Oops.

What is said was:
I was circumcised at age 15. It was a decision that I made simply because uncuts are just nasty looking.
After I was done healing I actually felt free-er (spelling?), and much bloody cleaner too.
All that extra skin just looks so.....I don't know, tribal like. Recovery time was not that bad. A bit painful, but as these americans like to say, "suck it up!" LOL!
Cheers,
Keith

Yes, I said it just the way I meant it. Considering that the whole complete sentence was, "It was a decision that I made simply because uncuts are just nasty looking." I assumed that most people would be able to figure out that that sentence IS a bloody personal opinion of mine. But I assume too much apparently.
I am also European, not an american, and was not circumcised at birth. So I am amoungst the "over half the men in the world" that you seem to feel I offended.

So you apparently assumed incorrectly by being under the impression that I am a nice person. Oh my.
Just join the bloody ranks of the rest of my "friends" here. I have already received 4 hate emails about this. There's a shocker.
Cheers,
Keith

ROFLMFAO.

Mean people are mean.

Hee hee.

Anti-circumcision fanatics love to ignore the proven health benefits of being cut,..

I think the problem is in the exaggeration of the health benefits proposed by people in favor of cutting off part of the penis of male babies.

... and to instead demonize the supposed loss of sensation, but the fact is, 99% of sexual stimulation is in the brain, ...

It's not supposed, look:
http://www.livescience.com/health/070615_penis_sensitivity.html
"For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis."

All this, on top of the health benefits, is what makes me SO happy my parents had me cut when I was an infant, and why I would certainly extend the same courtesy to my own children,

Not everyone is happy about having it done to them as a kid..

I am not into the looks of flaccid uncut penis. The skin looks wrinkly & weird. But I guess that's how nature wanted it to look like.

For me even though I found cut penises more handsome, I would not care too much if one has one.. So it's up to you to have the " plastic " surgery or not!

Otherwise train it, train it , train it, keeeeeeeeeeeep training it.

UNCUT is GROSS n NASTY looking...looks like an elephant trunk *(U never wuts in there)*

I know it reminds me alien movies. A thing comes out of its cocoon & grows to attack you.---Even though I am not the attackee in my case.--- Holly mother nature, you are a piece of work!

masculine31 saidUNCUT is GROSS n NASTY looking...looks like an elephant trunk *(U never wuts in there)*

That may be true for you but you have to admit that a penis with circumcision, the way the skin just suddenly stops at the scar from along the tube or shaft of the penis before the head, looks a bit odd, especially the more uneven and scraggly bumpy ones!

TheIStrat saidAre there guys who won't date uncircumcised men? I'm not circumscised, so I have no idea what the benefits of being circumscised are.

DON'T go finding out; it's barbaric!

LifeByTheHorn said
I am not into the looks of flaccid uncut penis. The skin looks wrinkly & weird. But I guess that's how nature wanted it to look like.

"Nature" also wanted us to have beards, mustaches, back hair, and long matted hair on our heads... Is it "barbaric" to cut that as well, as some of the uncut fanatics here say? Don't listen to them...total hypocrites who can't accept that a cut penis is more attractive to many people, easier to clean, and healthier in general.

Their angry rants against circumcision are just a way of venting the frustration they feel knowing so many men find uncut dicks very unappealing, either because of how they look or because of bad experiences with guys who were less than fresh beneath the foreskin...

LifeByTheHorn said
I am not into the looks of flaccid uncut penis.

Yeah, but an ERECT one is a whole other story.
Super Hot.

Anto said

masculine31 saidUNCUT is GROSS n NASTY looking...looks like an elephant trunk *(U never wuts in there)*

That may be true for you but you have to admit that a penis with circumcision, the way the skin just suddenly stops at the scar from along the tube or shaft of the penis before the head, looks a bit odd, especially the more uneven and scraggly bumpy ones!

Mine is uneven... (The shaft.) And the exposed part is a RaDiOaTIvE PiNK. You can honestly see it a mile a way. It has a healthy glow.

Nature" also wanted us to have beards, mustaches, back hair, and long matted hair on our heads... Is it "barbaric" to cut that as well, as some of the uncut fanatics here say?

Hair grows back, foreskins don't.


Don't listen to them...total hypocrites who can't accept that a cut penis is more attractive to many people, easier to clean, and healthier in general.


Oh please, how long does it take to wash an uncut penis? I bet my dick is cleaner than your ass.

Other than for religious/cutural reasons circumcision has been a remedy desperately in search of a malady to 'cure'.

Their angry rants against circumcision are just a way of venting the frustration they feel knowing so many men find uncut dicks very unappealing, either because of how they look or because of bad experiences with guys who were less than fresh beneath the foreskin... ?

Your argument realy only holds in the USA and can be attributed to Americans being stupid. (And yes, I am an American so I can say that)

Don't listen to them...total hypocrites

What is the hypocrisy?

who can't accept that a cut penis is more attractive to many people, easier to clean, and healthier in general.

It doesn't matter if it is or is not, we shouldn't be modifying the penis of kids to satiate the needs of others. We don't do that to girls, we shouldn't do it to boys.

I am not into men with overly defined mouth lines. It looks like something between that skank from Aerosmith, Stephen Tyler, and a slut who can fit a grapefruit in her mouth. Luckily there are plastic surgeons who can fix this.

...as long as we're insulting each other's physiology.

Anyone got any others? Like has anyone ever been with a dude with freckles that decided against the laser surgery? Go ahead. The gay freckled guys, some of which will probably get skin cancer, likely live in some backwards freak colony off on some island without internet access anyway. I'm sure they'll never see you demean their physique. Have at it.

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RealJock...confirming the stereotype that gay men are shallow since 2005.

It's sort of painfully true, about how gay men on realjock are just as bad as gay guys everywhere for pointing out eachother's faults. Acne, freckles, being not incredibly tanned.... EWWW. "All bad things."

It's so freeing to really not give a shit about all that stuff. It's also not a very sexy thing to be with a guy who is constantly worried about his perfect hair, his perfect tan, his perfect body, his..... yadda yadda.

I agree with the extreme cut I was given, i feel little to no pleasure while topping. I assumed it was because of masturbation and I stopped for a month and still not an extreme increase.

After much consideration I have decided if I ever have kids I'm not getting them circumsised. It should be their choice when they are old enough to choose.

and I cannot imagine my child going through the stress that I am right now not getting enough stimulation or enjoyment out of sex.

Halfstep saidI agree with the extreme cut I was given, i feel little to no pleasure while topping. I assumed it was because of masturbation and I stopped for a month and still not an extreme increase.
and I cannot imagine my child going through the stress that I am right now not getting enough stimulation or enjoyment out of sex.

Dan Savage has written a lot about this in his column. Stop masturbating with a death-grip (don't take choking-the-chicken too literally but learn to do it with different methods, grips etc. Years of death-grip can't be overcome over-night...