Gary Johnson for POTUS?

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    May 26, 2016 2:00 PM GMT
    Any opinion? I don't know all that much about him.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/26/america-is-about-to-have-a-3rd-party-nominee-gary-johnson/21384074/
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    May 27, 2016 9:48 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidAny opinion? I don't know all that much about him.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/26/america-is-about-to-have-a-3rd-party-nominee-gary-johnson/21384074/


    there are no right wingers ( free market capitalists) running for the White House this year.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 28, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
    jock203 said
    freedomisntfree saidAny opinion? I don't know all that much about him.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/26/america-is-about-to-have-a-3rd-party-nominee-gary-johnson/21384074/


    there are no right wingers ( free market capitalists) running for the White House this year.
    I never heard of this guy until stumbling upon this forum thread. How can an unknown person get elected President of the United States, it just does not seem possible.
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    May 28, 2016 6:04 PM GMT
    If you don't know about the Libertarian party, or the Libertarian approach to government, then you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by the GOP, DNC and media ('conservative' or 'liberal'). It's not for the weak mind, and requires you to actually define all levels of government and social structure from the perspective of individual freedom - in my interpretation of Libertarianism, you don't elect people to do conduct the matters of governance for you; you are required to be engaged in all aspects of your local government and its connections to all the surrounding and impacting 'governments' (ie., if your local area produces and sells to foreign countries, your local government dictates those terms, not DC or your state or your county). Some Libertarians would advocate that any type of law or institution (public or private) which impinges on personal freedom is unlawful. So think about a current corporate contract with a wireless provider - some to most of that contract would be null and void because it impinges on your individual rights as a human, whereas today's world sees corporate rights as more important than an individuals (hence all your personal data is for sale, even if you don't agree with how it is collected, to whom or how it is sold, or, better yet, that you not only pay a corporation for the right to use their service AND give them so much of your personal info, but they then can make money by selling your info - they get money at both ends, and you get taken at both ends).

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  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 28, 2016 9:14 PM GMT
    I don't think Gary Johnson has the charisma to garner the attention necessary to win. He will likely fall through the cracks and get lost in the bombast of this election that is unlike any in U.S. history I think even Rand Paul would have had a better chance as a Libertarian candidate
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    May 28, 2016 9:52 PM GMT
    The speculation is that Johnson would pick former gov Bill Weld of Mass. to be his VP.
    If they reversed roles, this could be interesting.

  • JackNNJ

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    May 29, 2016 1:11 AM GMT
    Of course he (or whoever the LP nominates) won't win, but the LP made its strongest showing to date in the last election. Will probably increase this time round.

    It's the only formidable and credible third party.
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    May 29, 2016 3:19 AM GMT
    I could see voting LP unless it became clear that the ego lunatic Trump had a chance of winning.
    But if Trump were done and the contest was between the Democrats and the LP, I could vote LP.
  • metta

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    May 29, 2016 6:48 PM GMT
    Governor Gary Johnson Nomination Speech 2016 Libertarian National Convention

  • metta

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    May 29, 2016 6:55 PM GMT
    Gary Johnson Wins Libertarian Nomination for President

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gary-johnson-wins-libertarian-nomination-president/story?id=39462969
  • JackNNJ

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    May 30, 2016 12:38 AM GMT
    Kickstartering saidI could see voting LP unless it became clear that the ego lunatic Trump had a chance of winning.
    But if Trump were done and the contest was between the Democrats and the LP, I could vote LP.


    It won't be between the LP and Dems; LP isn't strong enough or large enough for that.

    So vote Johnson. You're in GA (I assume) which will likely go Trump. I'm in NJ, which will choose Hillary.

    Let's have fun with our votes.
  • JackNNJ

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    May 30, 2016 12:40 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI don't think Gary Johnson has the charisma to garner the attention necessary to win. He will likely fall through the cracks and get lost in the bombast of this election that is unlike any in U.S. history I think even Rand Paul would have had a better chance as a Libertarian candidate


    That's not the issue at all. The LP, even as the largest and most credible third party, simply isn't big enough (yet).
  • metta

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    May 30, 2016 5:01 AM GMT
    Libertarian Party chair candidate strips on stage at national convention




    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/29/libertarian-party-chairman-candidate-strips-stage-/
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 30, 2016 1:39 PM GMT
    JackNNJ said
    That's not the issue at all. The LP, even as the largest and most credible third party, simply isn't big enough (yet).


    I didn't say it was the only issue, but it's an important factor for sure. A charismatic leader, especially in a year like the 2016 election cycle has been, could definitely grow the party. I just don't think Gary Johnson has the charisma (or message) to be that person